I have started preparing the FY1 440 4Spd Superbird that I own to possibly be the next restoration project that depletes my life savings... the "triple black" Charger being another prime candidate for the next money pit as well. Either way, I need to re-assemble the 'Bird and other future project cars to verify that all parts are on hand prior to starting the restoration.
Three days ago I tracked down the original owner of the Superbird, and spoke briefly with him for the first time since about 1983. Many years ago he had moved 1600+ miles from San Antonio, and having a name that he shared with 673 other Americans did not help matters! He believes that he still has some small parts, purchase paperwork, photos, racing trophies, and other material related to the car.
Also, I have begun to find evidence about the car's early history that had been described to me by a former employee of OR Mitchell Chrysler Plymouth, the selling dealership. So far only a hint about it's use in the First Annual San Antonio International Car Show... a lot more research will be required. But it's long wait on the dealer lot has been confirmed by a more than week long advertising blitz starting on December 31, 1970... after a full year on OR Mitchell's lot. It still took another three months to sell, finally selling on March 3rd based on the original title application.
I have tentatively named the Superbird the "San Antonio Express" based on the SA newspaper that it was first advertised in, plus the meaning of "Express" as sometimes used in race car names... and it's apparent racing history (Drag or SCCA or ???). More pics & info as I uncover the material... grab a bag... :popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn: BTW, I plan to create a sign for car shows showing the yellow 'Bird leading a "train" of wing cars around turn 4 at a super speedway. :icon_smile_big:
To begin, the first four days of Ads... note the deep discount to $3600... the original buyer confirmed that was the asking price, but believes that the dealer accepted an even lower offer from him... :lol: Also, some "as found" pics...
Very cool all at the same price .My buddys car was listed a few times every time with the price reduced
The day after buying the Superbird, installing the fenders and preparing the car for the trip down to the "farm" in the country.
Is this OOR brothers dealer was related to the SA dealer OR Mitchell.On another note I know TX plates stay with the car .Can you search past history at DMV from front license plate
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crittenden/2341543923/in/photostream
The Superbird spent about a year "down on the farm", before being moved back to San Antonio where it was stored in a boat storage unit to protect it from the elements...
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 22, 2011, 12:02:06 PM
Is this OOR brothers dealer was related to the SA dealer OR Mitchell.On another note I know TX plates stay with the car .Can you search past history at DMV from front license plate
http://www.flickr.com/photos/crittenden/2341543923/in/photostream
Not at all likely... ORR appears to be their last name, while O.R. Mitchell used his initials.
As it is today... I have started to clean it up and gather parts for re-assembly... even got the finish to bead water again! :icon_smile_wink:
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
get in line :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
Quote from: moparstuart on September 22, 2011, 12:24:20 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
get in line :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
What took you so long Stuart? Amazing discount they had to offer to unload the Superbird!
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
troy trade (TM) :D
Quote from: moparstuart on September 22, 2011, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
troy trade (TM) :D
He's done a "1 fer" and a "2 fer"... but not a "3 fer" that I know of... Loophole to avoid the licensing fee! :D :whistling:
Here is when I bought the Superbird...
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 01:13:06 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on September 22, 2011, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
troy trade (TM) :D
He's done a "1 fer" and a "2 fer"... but not a "3 fer" that I know of... Loophole to avoid the licensing fee! :D :whistling:
Here is when I bought the Superbird...
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: NICE all great history
I have a fair amount of documentation for the Superbird, most of it from the ownership history request that I made before the records were destroyed in the mid 80s.
Below:
1) Broadcast Sheet
2) Manufacturer's Statement of Origin
3) Original Title (Originally titled in his mother's name due to his age & financing needed)
4) Original License Plate Receipt
very nice great stuff
I like the name.
Is that a factory pink gtx in the background of one of those photos?
Now if I can just talk Allen out of the Daytona before he does a restoration on it. :nana:
Quote from: Aero426 on September 22, 2011, 03:51:53 PM
I like the name.
Thanks Doug... I had never been close to giving the car a name, but when I saw the "San Antonio Express" logo on the paper that I had copied one of the Ads out of, I had an epiphany... or maybe a senior moment ;) , that the the name was an excellent fit and the image of it leading a "train" of wing cars single file around a sweeping racetrack turn came to mind.
I spoke briefly with the original owner again this evening. He has been extremely busy at work this week because he apparently works in a job connected to the now turbulent stock market. Hopefully the stock market will calm down next week, and we will be able to talk at greater length.
A few new revelations:
> The Superbird was frequently drag raced at Aloe Field/Victoria Dragstrip: http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/TX/AloeField.html
> The original 440 HP engine suffered a catastrophic failure, and is believed to be long gone (will ask for more details)
> Him and a car load of friends made an unplanned trip to Los Angeles, CA on the spur of the moment in the Superbird
> He believes that he still has some photos of the Superbird, but believes many more were lost during a divorce...
> He believes that some old friends may have additional photos of the Superbird... he will check with them.
That's all for now... updates as available... not sure if a lot of material will yet surface, but I am hopeful...
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
Oh,
NOW you offer 3 cars !!!! :nana: That was my original offer..........
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:18:08 PM
The Superbird spent about a year "down on the farm", before being moved back to San Antonio where it was stored in a boat storage unit to protect it from the elements...:icon_smile_wink:
Hey I think I been to the "farm". :lol: Long time ago. I remember it being real dark out and very late at night. Or maybe it was real early in the morning. :lol: But I got to say I had never seen a "farm" with that much Mopar stuff before that night. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Arnie Cunningham on September 22, 2011, 05:21:55 PM
Is that a factory pink gtx in the background of one of those photos?
Absolutely YES!... RS23U0E138126: http://www.pantherpink.com/fm3019.htm (http://www.pantherpink.com/fm3019.htm)
440 HP, Column Automatic, 4:10 Dana, Air Grabber, rear go Wing spoiler, 15x7 Rallye wheels
Some interesting facts:
> I bought the car from Votaw's Wrecking Service at mile marker 61 on I10 near Flatonia, Texas for $125 IIRC
> The rear Go Wing spoiler was stolen by an employee of Votaw's, and mounted backwards on a dark green 1969 Chevelle. I tricked him into opening the trunk, and there were the FM3 mounting brackets. I confronted him and the owner, but got stonewalled. Also stolen were three of the 15x7 Rallye wheels, the fourth wheel being trapped under the GTX when the scissor jack being used toppled over. Once again... stonewalled!
> The GTX was used by the Ed Dietz Studio in Houston to develop the model design for the Monogram 1970 GTX kit released at the same time as Kevin Kellerher's 1971 Hemi `Cuda kit
> Originally the FM3 GTX was bought as a parts car for a B5 Blue 1970 Hemi Road Runner that I owned: http://www.sandysgarage.com/current.html (http://www.sandysgarage.com/current.html), and was not for sale separately. I was sold as part of a three car package to a well practiced liar named Jerry Calder that never intended to get the other cars... paid me $400 IIRC as a "down payment" and went on to rip off a lot of folks before being "run out" of Dallas. By the time that I sold the car, I wanted it saved... so that was the only good part to the deal.
> I did keep a few parts from the FM3 GTX... the front bucket seats are in the Superbird, the rear seat in another car, and the 4.10 Dana is under my triple black Charger.
> The car has been owned by six different people since I sold it, and is currently owned by Scott L. in Oklahoma...
Kinda interesting how seemingly separate cars and events tie together... and how I can ramble on about them! :eek2: :smilielol:
Quote from: 69_500 on September 22, 2011, 05:46:43 PM
Now if I can just talk Allen out of the Daytona before he does a restoration on it. :nana:
Tick, Tick, Tick... time is running short ;) ... The Daytona is now up on jackstands, being measured for a custom made roll-around cart. The replacement firewall is in-stock, as well as most needed parts for the uni-body frame repair. Also now in stock are the NOS nose cone and NOS valance, used driver's side fender, rough headlight buckets, nice used 1970 Charger fenders & hood, Etc.
If a Troy-Trade™ deal would occur, then of course the current Daytona would be redundant... :whistling:
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 22, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
Oh, NOW you offer 3 cars !!!! :nana: That was my original offer..........
As I recall you wanted 2 Aeros plus a (GASP!) Hemi `Cuda.... :eek2:
Quote from: Davtona on September 22, 2011, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:18:08 PM
The Superbird spent about a year "down on the farm", before being moved back to San Antonio where it was stored in a boat storage unit to protect it from the elements...:icon_smile_wink:
Hey I think I been to the "farm". :lol: Long time ago. I remember it being real dark out and very late at night. Or maybe it was real early in the morning. :lol: But I got to say I had never seen a "farm" with that much Mopar stuff before that night. :2thumbs:
Yes you were many years ago... during your Hemi Car raid. :yesnod: Oh, and I have been told in no uncertain terms that Jim Walton's place made mine pale in comparison...
So Dave, when you coming down for a visit/raid? :cheers:
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 22, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
Oh, NOW you offer 3 cars !!!! :nana: That was my original offer..........
As I recall you wanted 2 Aeros plus a (GASP!) Hemi `Cuda.... :eek2:
:o Now, that would have been the deal of the century,,,,,,,,For me......... I thought I proposed the 500, 'Tona and 'bird... :scratchchin:
These history threads are great reading for me. Its amazing how much info is still out there in newspapers or pictures in previous owners photo albums. If it were only easier to get tho....
verry cool story
Quote from: paironines on September 23, 2011, 08:31:09 AM
These history threads are great reading for me. Its amazing how much info is still out there in newspapers or pictures in previous owners photo albums. If it were only easier to get tho....
I agree - tracking a car back can be fun and very interesting....and a lot of work but worthwhile! :2thumbs:
But finding your cars original owner and documentation old pictures etc or some else car history is :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 23, 2011, 09:36:52 AM
Quote from: paironines on September 23, 2011, 08:31:09 AM
These history threads are great reading for me. Its amazing how much info is still out there in newspapers or pictures in previous owners photo albums. If it were only easier to get tho....
I agree - tracking a car back can be fun and very interesting....and a lot of work but worthwhile! :2thumbs:
Yes, indeed.. It was great talking to the original owner of my Daytona and hearing his stories; how the purchase came to be, all the band members buying Daytonas and then, in a episode of rage, blew the original 440... :lol:
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 22, 2011, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 22, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
Oh, NOW you offer 3 cars !!!! :nana: That was my original offer..........
As I recall you wanted 2 Aeros plus a (GASP!) Hemi `Cuda.... :eek2:
:o Now, that would have been the deal of the century,,,,,,,,For me......... I thought I proposed the 500, 'Tona and 'bird... :scratchchin:
Looks like that I am stuck with those darn 4 Speed cars (B5 C500/FY1 Superbird/FJ5 Hemi `Cuda)... have thought about running an automatic in the Superbird for a while (leaving all the pedals, etc in place for a quick and easy conversion back to 4 Speed...).
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 23, 2011, 11:12:50 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 22, 2011, 09:06:04 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 08:29:35 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 22, 2011, 07:18:29 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Cool start to the story!
I'll give you every bit of the $3600 paper price... :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Thanks Dave... How about a multi car trade for your Daytona?... 2 (or possibly 3) Aero cars for 1! :yesnod:
I'll even finish waxing the 'Bird...
Oh, NOW you offer 3 cars !!!! :nana: That was my original offer..........
As I recall you wanted 2 Aeros plus a (GASP!) Hemi `Cuda.... :eek2:
:o Now, that would have been the deal of the century,,,,,,,,For me......... I thought I proposed the 500, 'Tona and 'bird... :scratchchin:
Looks like that I am stuck with those darn 4 Speed cars (B5 C500/FY1 Superbird/FJ5 Hemi `Cuda)... have thought about running an automatic in the Superbird for a while (leaving all the pedals, etc in place for a quick and easy conversion back to 4 Speed...).
Stuck?... Ahhh, dang... With all those 4-speeds........... You could have unloaded things with a simple 3 fer 1...... :) Especially now with the 500 getting closer........ Speaking of which, and to change the subject, how's your inventory/arranging going?
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 24, 2011, 07:40:21 AM
Speaking of which, and to change the subject, how's your inventory/arranging going?
Not a lot of progress on the inventory so far, but the re-arranging is starting to rev-up... especially now with cooler weather finally starting. A major milestone was reached last weekend, with the second workshop "annex" being powered up... it's wiring was completed two years ago, but the feeder run through the "Dodge Mahal" and an underground conduit was finally completed last week. This clears the way for a new 16 camera color high-res video surveillance system to replace the old 4 camera B&W system, might happen in the next week or so.
There has been significant progress on clearing up floor space by utilizing the warehouse shelving that I acquired recently. A friend who is an artist with metal is starting to build special racks for cylinder heads, transmssions, etc for future use. Right now he is developing a roll-a-round engine cart design, and we just field tested a general-use cart he built with two Hemi blocks... no problem! So much progress is being made, but there is a long way to go... The sale of my Challenger convertible is pending... hate to see it go, but the money is needed to fund other projects.
As far as trades, I am certainly open to trades for a turn-key Daytona or Superbird, especially a Daytona with an Automatic. As my cars start to get restoration work done on them, the chances of a trade being worked out are significantly lower... I am open to all levels of trading, so what is available for trade depends on what is being offered... I am also open to trading for a Daytona clone, but cars like the Hemi `Cuda will not be part of that trade. In addition to several cars, I have a life-long gathering of Mopar parts that can be part of a trade, so a deal like a car plus parts like a 69 RR Air Grabber hood, 18 spline Hemi 4 Speed, NOS 70 Cuda front valance, NOS 70 E-Body Pistol Grip shifter set-up, NOS 70 `Cuda grille & HL bezels, 1970 B-Body 4.10 Dana rear axle, Etc.
Twenty years ago most of these cars and parts would never have been offered for sale by me... advancing age and other life interests & priorities changes things!
I have not yet found the main set of Superbird pics, but here are a few showing the nose assembly when I bought the car some 30 years ago... :eek2: The nose assy was in nice shape compared to many that I have seen...
Also, a thrown together artwork for the moment...
Pictures showing the silver wing and some decals before I removed them...
:coolgleamA: intresting reading & good pictures :drool5: , thanks for sharing :2thumbs:
not to hijack but
got a picture saved of a O R MITCHELL San Antonio dealer nameplate on the back of a 68 charger somewhere , will post it here , later
I seen a picture of the dealership posted by NiX 54 below
But it was closed up no cars anywhere.
I save trunk badge pictures and the badges.If got them post them :2thumbs:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/san-antonio/114251-o-r-mitchell-chrysler.html
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 24, 2011, 05:57:16 PM
I seen a picture of the dealership posted by NiX 54 below
But it was closed up no cars anywhere.
I save trunk badge pictures and the badges.If got them post them :2thumbs:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/san-antonio/114251-o-r-mitchell-chrysler.html
:coolgleamA: :o thats a good site !! ,
thanks for sharing :cheers:
think i'll join up there to see if anyone has any old pictures & info of the original selling dealer of my charger :yesnod:
i wont hijack Allens thread
by posting other stuff
heres the O.R.MITCHELL dealer nameplate picture ! i mentioned in my above post :yesnod: not hijacking or anything , but same dealer :cheers: :yesnod:
Quote from: tan top on September 25, 2011, 04:05:25 AM
:coolgleamA: :o thats a good site !! ,
thanks for sharing :cheers:
think i'll join up there to see if anyone has any old pictures & info of the original selling dealer of my charger :yesnod:
i wont hijack Allens thread
by posting other stuff
heres the O.R.MITCHELL dealer nameplate picture ! i mentioned in my above post :yesnod: not hijacking or anything , but same dealer :cheers: :yesnod:
Thanks for posting the pic, and no problem with hi-jacking... I already hi-jacked this thread to ramble on about the FM3 GTX... ;) As I recall your car came from Nowell in Arlington, Texas... I will see what I can find on the newspaper archive sites that I am using...
While we wait and see if the original owner supplies some back-in-the-day pics, I will post some more before clean-up pictures. Later I will post new pics to show how the 'Bird cleans up...
First the worst side of the car, the passenger side that you have already been seeing pics of. It is still in work, but starting to look a bit better...
The driver's side is a LOT better...
Bought new in the Spring of 1971, last inspected in the Spring of 1973 with less than 40K miles on the odometer...
The interior... over-all most "hard" parts just need a thorough cleaning, even some "soft" parts may be salvageable...
The interior/door panels should clean up. Does anyone make a correct package shelf panel yet???
:popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
The Dana 60 is still in place... not sure if the ring & pinion were ever changed, but I will find out. The only decal other than the inspection sticker that I left on the Superbird, was this RR "Beep-Beep" decal... not sure when or who changed it to an "EEP" decal... :eek2:
Jacking instruction decals...
Original owner says he ran a Hemi in it for awhile... :shruggy:
Quote from: moparstuart on September 25, 2011, 10:39:13 AM
:popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Thanks Stuart...
Last pics for now...
Most of the lenses and trim parts just need a cleaning and polishing from what I have seen so far. Maybe after the clean-up I'll just drop a 440 with a transmission in it and drive it... :icon_smile_big: ...for maybe a $3000 investment for essentials! :scratchchin:
i thinks seeing it running and driving in this conditions is cool , I would love to see it like that :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Bird looks to be pretty solid Allen. :2thumbs: Looks like the trunk floor would pass the basketball test. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: If you kinow what I mean which I'm sure you do. ;) Looking good. :2thumbs:
Yeah the car looks great with the wax and buff. Up here in the rust belt we pray our cars look that good even after the body shop!
Quote from: Davtona on September 25, 2011, 11:09:22 AM
Bird looks to be pretty solid Allen. :2thumbs: Looks like the trunk floor would pass the basketball test. :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: If you kinow what I mean which I'm sure you do. ;) Looking good. :2thumbs:
Thanks Dave... might have trouble keeping golf balls in the trunk at a spot or two... need to clean out the trunk and check, but I believe the trunk floor is toast. Also, rust around the rear window and trunk opening... and a spot at the top of the windshield.
'Bird looks pretty solid there Allen.. :2thumbs:
Quote from: paironines on September 25, 2011, 11:39:24 AM
Yeah the car looks great with the wax and buff. Up here in the rust belt we pray our cars look that good even after the body shop!
Thanks... The 'Bird is looking better than I expected so far. Rubbing out the oxidized paint by hand is taking too long, might need to buy a couple of pads for my 7 in. power buffer! At least there's no worries about rubbing through the paint on the edges of the body panels... :lol:
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 25, 2011, 12:01:52 PM
'Bird looks pretty solid there Allen.. :2thumbs:
Thanks Troy... Two factory four speeds for one automatic... jus' sayn'... :icon_smile_big: :lol:
Great thread with the history and pics :cheers:
Quote from: Bob T on September 25, 2011, 12:16:53 PM
Great thread with the history and pics :cheers:
Thanks... a couple more pics
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 25, 2011, 12:14:33 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 25, 2011, 12:01:52 PM
'Bird looks pretty solid there Allen.. :2thumbs:
Thanks Troy... Two factory four speeds for one automatic... jus' sayn'... :icon_smile_big: :lol:
Well, if it's the 3 I want (and it doesn't include the 'Cuda), then maybe....... At least I have a 4-car garage... lol
Speaking of garage, back to the Daytona and finishing up the carpet... Looking real good. Glad I got the ECS version.....
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 25, 2011, 10:02:50 AM
Quote from: tan top on September 25, 2011, 04:05:25 AM
:coolgleamA: :o thats a good site !! ,
thanks for sharing :cheers:
think i'll join up there to see if anyone has any old pictures & info of the original selling dealer of my charger :yesnod:
i wont hijack Allens thread
by posting other stuff
heres the O.R.MITCHELL dealer nameplate picture ! i mentioned in my above post :yesnod: not hijacking or anything , but same dealer :cheers: :yesnod:
Thanks for posting the pic, and no problem with hi-jacking... I already hi-jacked this thread to ramble on about the FM3 GTX... ;) As I recall your car came from Nowell in Arlington, Texas... I will see what I can find on the newspaper archive sites that I am using...
While we wait and see if the original owner supplies some back-in-the-day pics, I will post some more before clean-up pictures. Later I will post new pics to show how the 'Bird cleans up...
First the worst side of the car, the passenger side that you have already been seeing pics of. It is still in work, but starting to look a bit better...
:cheers: :2thumbs:
more good pictures !! wow that thing looks well straight :drool5: awesome stuff :yesnod:
looking forward to seeing more !! :popcrn:
yes Allen good memory ! mine was sold out of Nowell motors Inc , Arlington texas 76010 , they must have been trying to give it away though ! :lol: & no one wanted that color combo something was going on !! it had a SPD of November 22 nd 68 & was not sold to its first owner untill June 23rd 1969 :shruggy: :scratchchin: !!
if you do get chance to search through that newes paper archive search , would be greatly appreciated Allen ! :cheers: :cheers: , :cheers: :yesnod: :2thumbs:
my nose cone as found looks like yours
Quote from: moparstuart on September 27, 2011, 02:52:06 PM
my nose cone as found looks like yours
You found yours laying in your driveway?!? :o :smilielol:
I found mine laying under a door! :yesnod: :shruggy: See pic! :icon_smile_big:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,21818.msg237998.html
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/HoustonTXsuperbird001.jpg)
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 28, 2011, 11:15:57 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on September 27, 2011, 02:52:06 PM
my nose cone as found looks like yours
You found yours laying in your driveway?!? :o :smilielol:
I found mine laying under a door! :yesnod: :shruggy: See pic! :icon_smile_big:
:D :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: as found condition , as found it was hanging from the rafters in a body shop garage
glad you broke out the telestrator again :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
The Superbird spent about a year "down on the farm", before being moved back to San Antonio where it was stored in a boat storage unit to protect it from the elements...
is that a panther pink gtx in the backgroud?
Quote from: redrider on September 28, 2011, 12:12:21 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
The Superbird spent about a year "down on the farm", before being moved back to San Antonio where it was stored in a boat storage unit to protect it from the elements...
is that a panther pink gtx in the backgroud?
Dude, where you been? Alan hijacked his own thread a few pages back about that car...
Quote from: nascarxx29 on September 28, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,21818.msg237998.html
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e67/75414/HoustonTXsuperbird001.jpg)
This car still isn't together.................... I believe it's here in Houston and I'm not going to post his name, he's a very private man...........
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on September 28, 2011, 12:34:13 PM
Quote from: redrider on September 28, 2011, 12:12:21 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
The Superbird spent about a year "down on the farm", before being moved back to San Antonio where it was stored in a boat storage unit to protect it from the elements...
is that a panther pink gtx in the backgroud?
Dude, where you been? Alan hijacked his own thread a few pages back about that car...
A friend went to Scott L.'s house recently to look at another vehicle and saw the FM3 GTX which has finally been restored after about a half dozen or more owners over the years...
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 28, 2011, 11:15:57 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on September 27, 2011, 02:52:06 PM
my nose cone as found looks like yours
You found yours laying in your driveway?!? :o :smilielol:
I found mine laying under a door! :yesnod: :shruggy: See pic! :icon_smile_big:
you found it laying in your drive way !! :lol: :lol: that funny :yesnod:
Talked to the original owner again briefly on Saturday...
> One of his favorite races at the track was a showdown with a Boss 429 Mustang... the 'Bird won of course!
> He remembers the wing being silver, but does not remember why it was painted like that (it has been 35 years or so...)
> On one of his road trips, he met someone driving a dark blue Daytona with a black tail stripe and possibly other black "trim" who was from California. They met in west Texas, and parked the cars together to take pictures... he is not sure if he still has them. Ideas on who this CA guy was ??? :popcrn:
:Twocents: Joe Machado comes to mind from Ca and his daytona been painted many colors .Not sure on the blue .But it was silver for a time.Radke had a blue daytona but wing not black .Maybe C5X Joes son Sean will recall such a Ca car they have extensive photographs
Slowly working on my cars since the weather has cooled off. Worked on the `Cuda 440-6, the Daytona, and the Superbird yesterday. As the Daytona is coming apart as needed to begin the front frame repair, the Superbird is having it's parts returned. For the most part, Aero Car unique parts were removed while the cars were in public storage... in theory making them harder to identify when the storage unit's doors were open.
The removed items have been kept in a well marked box, some having been wrapped up since 1995... All were clearly labeled for easy identification.
RH Scoop was the first to be reinstalled...
Time for an update... "Clean-Up needed on Aisle 1"... something has blocked it off!
A friend and I re-installed the nose cone onto the Superbird without the headlight assemblies. It was a last minute decision, and the headlight assemblies were left off to save time. A friend who teaches a 6th grade Science class had planned to use my `Cuda and Challenger for a video about scaling objects and their features, by making a video with various scale sizes of diecast/plastic models displayed with the "1:1" actual car. Because the two cars were in a small garage, the video would had to have be taken outside to get the entire car into the framing of the shot. Well, the weekend was too windy for that due to the narration needed for the video.
So the decision was made to shoot the video inside the "Dodge Mahal" workshop, with the triple black Charger and Superbird displayed with the model cars. I expect to get a copy of the edited final video within the next 2-3 weeks... :cheers:
The short video was "filmed" with an iPad!... amazing video quality for something that looks like a small clipboard!
Three pics of the Superbird and a pic of the headlight assemblies which will be installed later...
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on November 14, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Three pics of the Superbird and a pic of the headlight assemblies which will be installed later...
Hey Allen !!! There's a bunch of spiders on your T/A !!!
Really enjoyed reading this thread, thanks for sharing.
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 15, 2011, 06:34:07 AM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on November 14, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
Three pics of the Superbird and a pic of the headlight assemblies which will be installed later...
Hey Allen !!! There's a bunch of spiders on your T/A !!!
Yikes... The worst kind, giant stainless steel ones! :eek2: :lol:
Clean-up on the T/A will start soon too... I hope to be driving it again in late Spring.
Quote from: TiMopar on November 15, 2011, 07:39:41 AM
Really enjoyed reading this thread, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Tim!... Stay tuned, the original owner and I continue to talk every week or two. He remains confident that he has some old pictures, paperwork, and even parts of the Superbird... It may take a long time to find the material though, and his current work schedule limits his free time to search.
In the mean-time I will continue to clean and prep the car as my time permits. Also, I will continue to post old pics and documents related to the Superbird. The 'Bird is looking a lot different with the nose cone, fender scoops, and A-Pillar moldings reinstalled! :2thumbs:
The conditions at the Dodge Mahal continue to improve for the Superbird and other Mopars...
Looking very nice Allen. :2thumbs: What a lineup that is. Whats the green one next to Bullit? Convertable Challenger?? Impressive.
Looks great Allen :2thumbs:
Quote from: Davtona on May 17, 2012, 09:09:58 PM
Looking very nice Allen. :2thumbs: What a lineup that is. Whats the green one next to Bullit? Convertable Challenger?? Impressive.
Thanks Dave & Dave! It is starting to look pretty good... finally. Yes, the FJ5 Challenger convertible is next to Bullitt.
More pics...
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on September 22, 2011, 02:49:08 PM
I have a fair amount of documentation for the Superbird, most of it from the ownership history request that I made before the records were destroyed in the mid 80s.
Below:
1) Broadcast Sheet
2) Manufacturer's Statement of Origin
3) Original Title (Originally titled in his mother's name due to his age & financing needed)
4) Original License Plate Receipt
Wow thats amazing. The crazy thing is I just noticed that my 70 charger came from the same dealership in San Antonio. O.R mitchell Chrysler I also have the original invoice. I also live in San Antonio which makes it pretty cool.
You got the 6pk Charger looking better. ;) Pretty nice looking actually. :scratchchin:
Quote from: daveco on May 17, 2012, 09:11:01 PM
Looks great Allen :2thumbs:
Thanks for clearing the way by removing the lifts... :cheers:
More pics... the area you cleared.
Quote from: Davtona on May 17, 2012, 09:46:36 PM
You got the 6pk Charger looking better. ;) Pretty nice looking actually. :scratchchin:
:yesnod: Now all the cars are getting a low budget makeover... The Challenger T/A is going to be be brought back into service in the next few months.
More pics...
Order is finally being achieved in most areas of the workshop... but not all... the final picture below shows the still messy sorting area.
You've come a long way there Allen.. :2thumbs:
Quote from: hemi68charger on May 18, 2012, 05:44:11 PM
You've come a long way there Allen.. :2thumbs:
Thanks Troy... Making a lot of progress on several other fronts as well. :yesnod:
Trying out a new camera... downsized & highly compressed pics taken without flash with a Nikon S6200 "point-and-shoot" camera. Pretty amazing for a $130 (on sale) 16 Mpx camera IMO. Previous pics this week were taken with an IPhone... excellent considering you can have it available all the time.
Wow Allen !! Looks great.. You have done a tremendous amount of work and organization to your shop... Only thing missing is a V2 Daytona.. :rofl:
Quote from: hemi68charger on May 21, 2012, 08:15:53 AM
Wow Allen !! Looks great.. You have done a tremendous amount of work and organization to your shop... Only thing missing is a V2 Daytona.. :rofl:
Et tu, Troy...? Well, I will just have to make due with Bullitt & Co... :shruggy:
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on May 21, 2012, 09:02:43 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on May 21, 2012, 08:15:53 AM
Wow Allen !! Looks great.. You have done a tremendous amount of work and organization to your shop... Only thing missing is a V2 Daytona.. :rofl:
Et tu, Troy...? Well, I will just have to make due with Bullitt & Co... :shruggy:
Nothing wrong with that.......... :2thumbs:
And the 500?
Thanks for the call Allen, I enjoyed talking to you... Your cars are all wonderful, hope to cross paths with you in the future... MoPar to Ya! :cheers:
good to see he got my message
And thanks to you Stewart ~ Much appreciated... :yesnod:
Quote from: moparstuart on January 13, 2013, 11:41:39 PM
good to see he got my message
Thanks for relaying the message to me Stuart... Will someone lend Brian $80,000... Please ??
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 12:20:10 AM
And thanks to you Stewart ~ Much appreciated... :yesnod:
post up a picture of your tat brian :icon_smile_big:
OK ~ :coolgleamA:
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 11:02:40 AM
OK ~ :coolgleamA:
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: love the bird
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on January 14, 2013, 01:21:19 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on January 13, 2013, 11:41:39 PM
good to see he got my message
Thanks for relaying the message to me Stuart... Will someone lend Brian $80,000... Please ??
When my ship comes in, expect a phone call! :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:
Quote from: moparstuart on January 14, 2013, 07:30:43 AM
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 12:20:10 AM
And thanks to you Stewart ~ Much appreciated... :yesnod:
post up a picture of your tat brian :icon_smile_big:
Hope you were "Comfortably Numb" when you got those done ... :D
They were all done between the ages of 18-24, so yea, I was... :icon_smile_tongue:
Check the Tags :icon_smile_cool:
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Check the Tags :icon_smile_cool:
Cool :2thumbs:
Now I just need to find a Floyd reference for the wing car after it's done ... :scratchchin:
Quote from: WINGIN IT on January 14, 2013, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Check the Tags :icon_smile_cool:
Cool :2thumbs:
Now I just need to find a Floyd reference for the wing car after it's done ... :scratchchin:
LEARNING TO FLY...
A NEW MACHINE (parts 1 & 2)...
Comming back to life...
One of my turns...
One of the few...
Run like Hell...
Welcome to the Machine...
Thats all I can think of right now... OK IM GETTING MY LPs out now :cheers:
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on January 14, 2013, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Check the Tags :icon_smile_cool:
Cool :2thumbs:
Now I just need to find a Floyd reference for the wing car after it's done ... :scratchchin:
LEARNING TO FLY...
A NEW MACHINE (parts 1 & 2)...
Comming back to life...
One of my turns...
One of the few...
Run like Hell...
Welcome to the Machine...
Thats all I can think of right now... OK IM GETTING MY LPs out now :cheers:
Great, thanks !
I kinda like Learning to Fly, just got to get it to 8 characters ... LRNG2FLY :lol:
Welcome to the Machine is good as well .. .WLCM2MACH ??? Dang 9 characters...
Run Like Hell .... RUNLIKHL or RNLIKEHEL
Maybe just ... WCH1SPNK , :smilielol:
Quote from: WINGIN IT on January 14, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 02:43:56 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on January 14, 2013, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: 70moparman on January 14, 2013, 02:09:50 PM
Check the Tags :icon_smile_cool:
Cool :2thumbs:
Now I just need to find a Floyd reference for the wing car after it's done ... :scratchchin:
LEARNING TO FLY...
A NEW MACHINE (parts 1 & 2)...
Comming back to life...
One of my turns...
One of the few...
Run like Hell...
Welcome to the Machine...
Thats all I can think of right now... OK IM GETTING MY LPs out now :cheers:
Great, thanks !
I kinda like Learning to Fly, just got to get it to 8 characters ... LRNG2FLY :lol:
Welcome to the Machine is good as well .. .WLCM2MACH ??? Dang 9 characters...
Run Like Hell .... RUNLIKHL or RNLIKEHEL
Maybe just ... WCH1SPNK , :smilielol:
or PIGSWING
missed the cleanup work, looks like really good relaxation time :2thumbs: :2thumbs: