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Title: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: draftingmonkey on November 01, 2018, 04:32:15 PM
Saw this article on a new 426 Supercharged Mopar Crate HEMI Engine and Kit showcased in a 1968 Dodge "Super Charger" Concept car at SEMA. Thought some folks may be a tad bit interested.
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/mopar-hellephant-426-hemi-crate-engine-to-have-1000-horsepower/ (http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/news/mopar-hellephant-426-hemi-crate-engine-to-have-1000-horsepower/)
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: Lennard on November 01, 2018, 05:12:15 PM
Check the different forums... there are several topics on it already.  ;)
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: 4cruzin on November 02, 2018, 05:07:47 PM
1000 HP street car may be a little of an overkill . . . IMO.   Although it is about the same price as the hellcat, I think the hellcat is a better choice . . . For a street car anyways . . .

:cheers:
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: Kern Dog on November 02, 2018, 11:26:52 PM
Is that 1000 HP on E85 or regular old 92 octane??
700 HP is surely next to impossible to hook up on the street. The 2015 and later cars with this engine have traction control (With the automatic) but our cars do not. How the heck could you put that power to use? I'm not against the idea, I just wonder at what point do you say "That is way too much power for me"!
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: alfaitalia on November 03, 2018, 01:49:47 AM
That sort of power is way too much for anyone to use on the street in reality particularly in the small, over crowded uk...but since when did that matter. You have not got to use it all the time just because it's there. That's the beauty of a supercharged engine...lots of power low down too, where you can use it. There are many high horse engines on the streets here..how many are often driven in anger...not many...but it's nice to know it's there. Ever ridden a modern 190-200 brake superbike? They have more horses than kilos of weight....you can hold the throttle full open for more than a couple of seconds without destroying the speed limit. Does that stop them being everywhere?...no.

The Maximus Charger is 2000 brake isn't it? Just1000 horses...pah!
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: 303 Mopar on November 04, 2018, 12:51:46 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on November 02, 2018, 11:26:52 PM
Is that 1000 HP on E85 or regular old 92 octane??
700 HP is surely next to impossible to hook up on the street. The 2015 and later cars with this engine have traction control (With the automatic) but our cars do not. How the heck could you put that power to use? I'm not against the idea, I just wonder at what point do you say "That is way too much power for me"!

The Hellephant runs on pump gas.
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: Challenger340 on November 04, 2018, 02:23:53 PM
IMO, for something someone actually intends to drive on a regulat basis ? even with Traction Control, the co-efficient of friction between the tires to nomal street asphalt is very simply not there, rendering the 1,000hp a moot point for most.
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: alfaitalia on November 04, 2018, 05:22:26 PM
Do you have super slippery roads over their or something? Lol. Im not saying 1000 horse cars are everywhere over hear...but they are about. I personally know of two, one is a guy with a 1200 horse Skyline R34...and it's converted to rear wheel drive....perfectly streetable. Now obviously if he dumped the lot from standstill then it would just be a machine for turning tyres into smoke...but you don't drive a car like that on the road.....it's the public highway....not a drag strip (where ironically it might be too much power without serious chassis/suspension mods!). Some on here must think the throttle is more of an on and off switch than a variable device. If you don't push that right hand peddle too car...it does not need to deliver all the horses at once. That said it would great fun to smoke Charger tyres FROM 120 mph like that Skyline can...lol! So yes a 1000 brake car be fun on the street...just save the 8 second attempts for the track if you want to live long enough to enjoy it!.....
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: Kern Dog on November 04, 2018, 09:27:53 PM
Who has been going 100 mph and actually broken traction ? No way in hell I'd want to risk that!
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: alfaitalia on November 05, 2018, 01:51:19 AM
Never in a car...but I lost traction on a bike once (tuned Yamaha FZR1000 EXUP) at just under 170 by shutting the throttle too quickly.....unpleasant to say the least. That was on the M25 (London's orbital motorway) at about 1 in the morning on the way home from my girlriend  of the time in about 91/92. It was the first time I ever had it flat out. You don't forget stuff like that!
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: darbgnik on November 06, 2018, 09:51:25 PM
Quote from: Kern Dog on November 04, 2018, 09:27:53 PM
Who has been going 100 mph and actually broken traction ? No way in hell I'd want to risk that!

I've lost traction at 85 mph with a paltry 650hp in a sub 3200lb car with cold R compound track day tires. Good thing about it happening at that speed is that inertia keeps it going straight, pretty good.  :smilielol:
Title: Re: The "Hellephant"...a new 426 Hemi crate motor
Post by: Mike DC on November 07, 2018, 03:09:20 AM
               
QuoteI've lost traction at 85 mph with a paltry 650hp in a sub 3200lb car with cold R compound track day tires. Good thing about it happening at that speed is that inertia keeps it going straight, pretty good. 


3200 lbs with 650 HP  =  4.9 lbs per HP. 

That's 3800 lbs (a classic Charger) with almost 775 HP, or 4400 lbs (a new Hellcat) with 900 HP.