Found this 69 Satellite sport in Los Angeles and had to have it .The plan was to just restore it or possibly clone it into a roadrunner.
It may look a little beat up but is actually very very clean .I will show you the resto build and this is where it gets interesting.....part way thru the resto I had a bit of bad luck /good luck /fate and I had the opportunity to make my garage larger or put some more money into the 69.
I did truck loads of research on the pros and cons of doing a superbird / clone / tribute whatever you want to call it.Got the calculator out, sat down with the wife and she said go for it .
Obviously it is a 69 body. I really liked the historical look of the early photo below of the creative industries mock ups etc .What do I call it ?, I don't want to get into the debate of is it a clone , it hasn't got this or it should have that etc.
How I want the car to look, is as if I had been in part of development back in the day but still wanted what I am doing to still be "slightly historically correct " as the first superbird mockups and preproduction were of a 69 body .That should keep the car show "experts " happy LOL .I just wanted to put my own "creative " touches
to the build .I mean no disrespect to any wingcar enthusiasts there are some things I like , some things I would change and that is what I have done with my Mule .
There was some discussion in posts about the mule subject and I best thought this suits my build name. I have also wanted a wingcar and am living my dream ,it may not be to everybodies liking ,but that is the beauty of this hobby otherwise all our cars would have the same paint , wheels , and engine. :Twocents:
I have also decided to retain the full 69 body ,including the 69 front guards as part of my build and as this thread develops I will show how I got round some of the headaches of a 69 build .Don't these things normally go really easily and smoothly ? :scratchchin: . :D
http://wwnboa.org/claybird.htm
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,54499.0.html
Thats a cool idea and yes, of course they always go easily and smoothly.
Thats a cool idea and yes, of course they always go easily and smoothly :smilielol:
I will post/reply when I can , have been out of town and a bit crook so build has been slower that anticipated , but best not to rush these things
Quote from: Ghoste on November 23, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
Thats a cool idea and yes, of course they always go easily and smoothly.
As smoothly as the bumps on my head. :lol:
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cleaning up the bottom of the guards
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new extension.
pretty happy with the roof considering that it was a vinyl roof car , no holes :2thumbs: and cleaned up rarely well.
...etchprimed
Excellent project. :2thumbs:
ta , this is probably one of the tidiest ones I have found , floors and trunk are mint too ...pictures to follow
Trunk is mint? Wow that is a first.
when I say mint I should have said mint compared to what I have seen before and had before ...it has a few tiny wee holes peppered about the place in the trunk most no bigger than a ball point pen nib but the floors in the rest of the car are excellent ....but yeah mint I suppose :shruggy:
Looks like you're off to a good start. :2thumbs: :popcrn: What's the thinkings for a powerplant?
Quote from: remta1 on November 23, 2013, 11:35:19 PM
when I say mint I should have said mint compared to what I have seen before and had before ...it has a few tiny wee holes peppered about the place in the trunk most no bigger than a ball point pen nib but the floors in the rest of the car are excellent ....but yeah mint I suppose :shruggy:
Well, that I can except. :2thumbs: :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: stroker400 wedge on November 23, 2013, 11:38:26 PM
Looks like you're off to a good start. :2thumbs: :popcrn: What's the thinkings for a powerplant?
cheers, running factory motor at the moment , spending all my money on go-go bits and ooh aah bits first and will worry about the rest later as it costs quite a bit to get them road legal with all of the hoops and crap you have to jump thru with the government :brickwall: :flame:
tinted epoxy primer coat that I used helps protect the metal and find high and low spots in the panelwork,
,,
..not going to bore everyone with all of the body prep pics..
Not boring at all. It gives a nice insight to how much work it takes to building these cars
:popcrn:
as I mentioned in my first post , this where I had the opportunity to extend my garage or build the mule.....
Brought my kit thru AAR quality fiberglass (stinger ) , very good to deal with , found them really helpful had to modify a few things ( later threads )
First test fit on wing ....looks terrible as the wing is a different colour , the car is sitting way too high , and the glass is out ... :eek:
Thank goodness I can see past this...
I was able to use my mates superbird for reference but everything had to be in context with the body shape differences on the 69 and to make sure that all the lines and reference points look correct
I'd say you're off to a pretty good start. :2thumbs:
Very nice project. It does look like you had a really nice car to start. The metal look like it still had all its integrity despite a few hole like you said. So what made you opt for the darker green?
I am thinking about doing the samething to my 69.
Hey
When am I getting an invite to view this cool project :cheers:
Gary
Just remember to remove the keys from the deck lid when you open it. If the wing is in the same location as on a 70 model, the keys will hit the wing. That's the downside to putting a wing on a 69. Been there, done that. ;D
Is it a hand cruncher too then?
Quote from: Ghoste on November 26, 2013, 06:05:21 PM
Is it a hand cruncher too then?
No changed it slightly and put a stopper on the swing axis ...that way I keep all my fingers LoL
Quote from: r4daytona on November 26, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
Very nice project. It does look like you had a really nice car to start. The metal look like it still had all its integrity despite a few hole like you said. So what made you opt for the darker green?
Thanks, originally my options were to retain the car as standard and as it progresses I like the green on it even more.
The colour is a late model colour as close to original as I can get .that way if I need to touch up anything it won't be an issue , it actually has a goldy tint to it in the sunlight
Quote from: boss429kiwi on November 26, 2013, 01:48:30 PM
Hey
When am I getting an invite to view this cool project :cheers:
Gary
Thanks for the kind words Gary , it's only down the road from you in Mosgiel it's still in build mode at the moment but you are more than welcome to have a peek :2thumbs:
Cheers
Jase
the side view of Hotrod98 blue rr with wing looks great as yours will. have seen pixs of 3-4 68-69s with yours with wings. but have only seen 1 68 ply b body with a nose.its a white 68 ragtop ,pixs on wing cars in a convertable state . it looks great but pretty sure they used the 70 coronet fenders an hood on it to fit the nose.
there are or were some new nos trunk trim panels,, moparstuart knows the guy an details of sale info?
lots of pixs an ideas on nose mounting an different lite setups on these threads.
Daytona clones from around the world
wing cars in a convertable state
dartona an non factory wing cars
well all the best an will bee following build..latter dj in oregon the dart guy :popcrn: :drool5: :cheers: :2thumbs:
Pretty good looking for an ol Mule Remta :2thumbs:
Good plan mate, keen to see how it progresses.
I seem to remember you had a thread on the pop up lights actuation somewhere??
You're not alone in wanting to build a Wing Car tribute/clone/mule, I'd love to do one similar to BigBlockSams one with amourlites on it, or one that was not an 8/10 type car. About the time I was car hunting, a mate of mines Father had a 69 RR 4spd 383 for sale for $18k. It needed work but would've been a good start, some guy had made a few payments on it then dissappeared, it took ages to sort it out with what was happening and some other guy then paid it out. Know where there's a 69 4 speed Bee just racking up storage fees at a depot after a non paid panel job and the guy has lit out too, that would be a good one...
Boss /Gary, I think I have some pics of your car from a few years back when it lived up here, I'll have to have a dig through some old photo albums if you want. Had a fall last night on a boat, bad thumb/hand sprain and have got a bit of time off work to kill...
Quote from: djcarguy on November 27, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
the side view of Hotrod98 blue rr with wing looks great as yours will. have seen pixs of 3-4 68-69s with yours with wings. but have only seen 1 68 ply b body with a nose.its a white 68 ragtop ,pixs on wing cars in a convertable state . it looks great but pretty sure they used the 70 coronet fenders an hood on it to fit the nose.
there are or were some new nos truck trim panels,, moparstuart knows the guy an details of sale info?
lots of pixs an ideas on nose mounting an different lite setups on these threads.
Daytona clones from around the world
wing cars in a convertable state
dartona an non factory wing cars
well all the best an will bee following build..latter dj in oregon the dart guy :popcrn: :drool5: :cheers: :2thumbs:
Cheers Dj will add more pics soon about progress
Quote from: Bob T on November 28, 2013, 12:30:26 AM
Pretty good looking for an ol Mule Remta :2thumbs:
Good plan mate, keen to see how it progresses.
I seem to remember you had a thread on the pop up lights actuation somewhere??
You're not alone in wanting to build a Wing Car tribute/clone/mule, I'd love to do one similar to BigBlockSams one with amourlites on it, or one that was not an 8/10 type car. About the time I was car hunting, a mate of mines Father had a 69 RR 4spd 383 for sale for $18k. It needed work but would've been a good start, some guy had made a few payments on it then dissappeared, it took ages to sort it out with what was happening and some other guy then paid it out. Know where there's a 69 4 speed Bee just racking up storage fees at a depot after a non paid panel job and the guy has lit out too, that would be a good one...
Boss /Gary, I think I have some pics of your car from a few years back when it lived up here, I'll have to have a dig through some old photo albums if you want. Had a fall last night on a boat, bad thumb/hand sprain and have got a bit of time off work to kill...
yep that's my next series of photos ..starting on the nose and wing etc I have tried to authenticate it as they would have back in the day with out getting too carried away ...next thing you know ive got shiny bits coming for it all the time LOL :smilielol:
hope the hand gets better soon brother , hope you can still hold a beer alright :cheers:
Cool Project ! :2thumbs:
Quote from: remta1 on November 28, 2013, 04:31:55 AM
hope the hand gets better soon brother , hope you can still hold a beer alright :cheers:
Thats what straws are for. :icon_smile_big:
(but I hope it heels quickly too ;))
SORRY i meant 68-69 TRUNk ---trim plates not truck,,,,,my bad late nite smelling spelling p,lol.
also a thread called ----unusual mopars---- has some interesting cars an customs an paint.
DJ the Dartona wing guy :popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :cheers:
wing braces , a bit thicker than I probably needed but better be safe than sorry ....
Now it is at the stage of big decision time , do I plug the window? :brickwall: lots of sleepless nights over this decision .What was the overriding factor is I really love the original shape of the window and it fits in better for me in continuing the overall mule theme.The window stays.
So time for the nose ....did countless measurements on my mates superbird and comparisons on guard shape.
I had to be careful and bear in mind that if I followed the contours of the other superbird the nose would not look right on my guards .So I have spent a massive amount of time mocking up , drawing and measuring to get the look as accurate and functional looking as possible .I was really surprised about the number of variances of shape and angles on the hundreds of different superbird photos that I examined.
The blue tape lines were only for mocking up and were not the actual cut lines. What made it awkward to visualize was the fact that the fiberglass join on the nose was at a totally different angle to the body lines and mounting lines but we eventually got it sorted :
Will you be cutting and altering the nose to fit the fenders or will you be cutting into the fenders? In my opinion the window plug is not as necessary to the look of this car as it is to the Daytona. A lot of work with only a little visual gain. In fact there were some pictures floating around with west coast nascar racecars from back in the day where they removed the nose and wing for short track runs and with the plug still in you can hardly tell the difference from a stock 70 Road Runner.
I agree very much on the window plug for the Plymouth versus the Dodge.
I think the 70 bird plug window is very different from the RR window shape. It's very noticeable in my opinion. Now, for a 69 mule car, I would probably leave the stock back glass. The bird clones with stock RR rear window glass just looks odd to me. I agree that for the daytona, it's a must.
Noticeable to us for sure but not as noticeable as the Daytona one.
Quote from: Stevearino on November 30, 2013, 07:58:59 AM
Will you be cutting and altering the nose to fit the fenders or will you be cutting into the fenders? In my opinion the window plug is not as necessary to the look of this car as it is to the Daytona. A lot of work with only a little visual gain. In fact there were some pictures floating around with west coast nascar racecars from back in the day where they removed the nose and wing for short track runs and with the plug still in you can hardly tell the difference from a stock 70 Road Runner.
a bit of both , the nose is slightly wider than the 69 guards and the end of the 69 guards sit too flat/square against the nose . ,I will cover this off in later pics ,
glad you all agree on the plug scenario :2thumbs: now for some :hack: :smash:
Hey
What's your cell?
If your available I may cruise around today in the bird and have a look at your project.
Gary
Quote from: boss429kiwi on November 30, 2013, 03:16:07 PM
Hey
What's your cell?
If your available I may cruise around today in the bird and have a look at your project.
Gary
Mate that would be awesome but im unavailable today heading back out of town next week for work, I will pm you my number and we can catch up later in the week perhaps :yesnod: :drool5:
Done :cheers:
Quote
glad you all agree on the plug scenario :2thumbs: now for some :hack: :smash:
Well...personally I think the size/shape of the stock B bodie glass is rather large to keep on a Superbird clone, I know the cost and expense of a Superbird plug, original or repro is sometimes cost prohibitive, but here's an alternative, a readily available 1970-4 Plymouth Cuda rear window grafted into a 68 B body "Superbird", maybe something to consider?
Mike
Thats an interesting alternative that doesn't appear too badly.
Quote from: Ghoste on November 30, 2013, 08:28:45 PM
Thats an interesting alternative that doesn't appear too badly.
Have to agree......
Now I wonder how it would look with a black vinyl top :scratchchin:
Quote from: dyslexic teddybear on November 30, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on November 30, 2013, 08:28:45 PM
Thats an interesting alternative that doesn't appear too badly.
Have to agree......
Now I wonder how it would look with a black vinyl top :scratchchin:
Hmm, interesting. Were'nt the R/T SE Challengers fitted with a smaller plug and window under the v top? Or would that size just be too proportionally out of whack with the Bird/ RR gig?
The SE Challenger did indeed have a rear window plug for a smaller backlight, whether it would look good or not I can't say.
My friend got a SE Challenger SE plug is white plastic and screwed into the original opening
Quote from: Ghoste on December 01, 2013, 12:28:14 AM
The SE Challenger did indeed have a rear window plug for a smaller backlight, whether it would look good or notr I can't say.
The SE Challenger window is ridiculously small, be fine if he was building a Superbird limo :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: DAY CLONA on December 01, 2013, 12:09:38 PM
The SE Challenger window is ridiculously small, be fine if he was building a Superbird limo :icon_smile_big:
Or a top chop Town car :lol:
Anyone else notice the Charger flip top gas cap on that car!?? Guess he really wanted a Daytona instead!?? :lol:
My Imperial has a fiberglass plug and a smaller rear glass shoved into the original window opening.
I wonder if that would work by cutting down the fiberglass and bonding it to the satellite rear window opening, then covering the patchwork with a vinyl top? :scratchchin:
There's a lot more Imperials getting cut up for the demo derbies than 'Cudas. :Twocents:
There's one on ebay right now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-REAR-GLASS-ASSEMBLY-TRIM-FILLER-PANEL-TINT-4-DOOR-1973-/360726928197?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fd001b45&vxp=mtr
Quote from: Indygenerallee on December 01, 2013, 02:01:51 PM
Anyone else notice the Charger flip top gas cap on that car!?? Guess he really wanted a Daytona instead!?? :lol:
Guess he couldn't find a real one so he built what he could... Wonder if it has a cone up front?? :shruggy:
Imperial plug on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-REAR-GLASS-ASSEMBLY-TRIM-FILLER-PANEL-TINT-4-DOOR-1973-/360726928197?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fd001b45&vxp=mtr
:scratchchin:
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on December 01, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
My Imperial has a fiberglass plug and a smaller rear glass shoved into the original window opening.
I wonder if that would work by cutting down the fiberglass and bonding it to the satellite rear window opening, then covering the patchwork with a vinyl top? :scratchchin:
There's a lot more Imperials getting cut up for the demo derbies than 'Cudas. :Twocents:
There's one on ebay right now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-REAR-GLASS-ASSEMBLY-TRIM-FILLER-PANEL-TINT-4-DOOR-1973-/360726928197?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fd001b45&vxp=mtr
Got dimensions?....Imperials are about the size of an aircraft carrier :icon_smile_big:
Looks like that glass is the size of those Challenger or Cuda doors laying on the ground beside it... looks huge..
Quote from: odcics2 on December 01, 2013, 05:03:44 PM
Quote from: Indygenerallee on December 01, 2013, 02:01:51 PM
Anyone else notice the Charger flip top gas cap on that car!?? Guess he really wanted a Daytona instead!?? :lol:
Guess he couldn't find a real one so he built what he could... Wonder if it has a cone up front?? :shruggy:
ITS A DAYCLONA a 69 coronet with wing ,nose ,flip gas cap and says dayclona on the sides..DAYCLONA :popcrn: :2thumbs: :cheers:WITH NOSE :cheers: :2thumbs:
Quote from: DAY CLONA on December 01, 2013, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on December 01, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
My Imperial has a fiberglass plug and a smaller rear glass shoved into the original window opening.
I wonder if that would work by cutting down the fiberglass and bonding it to the satellite rear window opening, then covering the patchwork with a vinyl top? :scratchchin:
There's a lot more Imperials getting cut up for the demo derbies than 'Cudas. :Twocents:
There's one on ebay right now:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-REAR-GLASS-ASSEMBLY-TRIM-FILLER-PANEL-TINT-4-DOOR-1973-/360726928197?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53fd001b45&vxp=mtr
Got dimensions?....Imperials are about the size of an aircraft carrier :icon_smile_big:
I just went out to the garage and attempted to measure the back glass of the Imperial.
But...
The Imperial is currently wedged between the wall on one side, and my 2500 Ram on the other side, so these measurements were taken leaning forward over the trunklid, measuring through the car cover, so don't take them as gospel:
At the tallest point the glass and trim is 21" high
At the widest point the glass and trim is 54" wide.
The fiberglass plug is another 5 or 6 inches wide all the way around the glass, but I ain't tearin' off my vinyl top to measure the plug exactly.
This is a four door hardtop, the two door plug and back glass is completely different. :Twocents:
Quote from: remta1 on November 30, 2013, 02:07:05 AM
Now .The window stays.
So time for the nose ....did countless measurements on my mates superbird and comparisons on guard shape.
I had to be careful and bear in mind that if I followed the contours of the other superbird the nose would not look right on my guards .So I have spent a massive amount of time mocking up , drawing and measuring to get the look as accurate and functional looking as possible .I was really surprised about the number of variances of shape and angles on the hundreds of different superbird photos that I examined.
The blue tape lines were only for mocking up and were not the actual cut lines. What made it awkward to visualize was the fact that the fiberglass join on the nose was at a totally different angle to the body lines and mounting lines but we eventually got it sorted : :shruggy: :shruggy: :icon_smile_question: :popcrn: :popcrn: :cheers:
well whats next dont leaves hangin,please,DJ :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Hope the window post didnt derail or tick you off? some of us are waiting an watching , i know I want too see more on the nose an mounting it. a friend of mine years back his 68 Satilite got hit in the front an we talked alot of what it wood take to graft a bird nose on but his wife was not sold on the idea, an cost 20 yrs ago few parts makers.
we figured he needed bumper &brackets an grill very lite damage to his hood an fenders were fine. so we could cut front of hood or hinge bolt pin it in front to fenders an have it open from the back an lock down with hood pins or those key lock hood pin setups.that way the front of hood curve over or down did not have too open up an wood mate up to nose cone better. then modify the nose so it slipped over a few inches of the fenders to mate up an cover any spots were the bumper use to fit. he fixed it stock an has sold it now..
well looking forward to more on your MULE bird build... heard of mule deer but not mule bird,haha.DJ :popcrn:
Quote from: djcarguy on December 03, 2013, 07:47:48 AM
Hope the window post didnt derail or tick you off? some of us are waiting an watching , i know I want too see more on the nose an mounting it. a friend of mine years back his 68 Satilite got hit in the front an we talked alot of what it wood take to graft a bird nose on but his wife was not sold on the idea, an cost 20 yrs ago few parts makers.
we figured he needed bumper &brackets an grill very lite damage to his hood an fenders were fine. so we could cut front of hood or hinge bolt pin it in front to fenders an have it open from the back an lock down with hood pins or those key lock hood pin setups.that way the front of hood curve over or down did not have too open up an wood mate up to nose cone better. then modify the nose so it slipped over a few inches of the fenders to mate up an cover any spots were the bumper use to fit. he fixed it stock an has sold it now..
well looking forward to more on your MULE bird build... heard of mule deer but not mule bird,haha.DJ :popcrn:
no, all good DJ, I am out of town with work at the moment so have been unable to post more pics ,will have more up soon .Nice to see people interested in my build and all the helpful comments and ideas :2thumbs:
If you are going to do it right, just copy the photos of the mockup.
Modified Daytona nose, use lots of clay. One upright is from a Daytona, you need that or its not even close to being a mock up.
Make the rear window as close as you can to the vintage photos. Match the grey and primer colors too.
That car would be in magazines! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
p.s. I think I know where I can find an old wall phone for you... :cheers: That would look cool when you display the car!
Quote from: odcics2 on December 04, 2013, 05:35:08 AM
If you are going to do it right, just copy the photos of the mockup.
Modified Daytona nose, use lots of clay. One upright is from a Daytona, you need that or its not even close to being a mock up.
Make the rear window as close as you can to the vintage photos. Match the grey and primer colors too.
That car would be in magazines! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
p.s. I think I know where I can find an old wall phone for you... :cheers: That would look cool when you display the car!
I agree. Do it right or don't bother doing it at all.
Guards chopped :'(the laws are very strict in new Zealand for making a car road legal it is called compliance.At this stage to get compliance I have to keep the headlight pods and inner frame as it is ,as removing them would be considered non compliant.
I was pondering how I was going to make up the Z -braces or something similar and also keep the weight down
,thought I would try a different approach to get the body lines from the front of the guard to match up cleaner with the nose .Also it would give me easier assembly and disassembly options...
the holes are threaded so that the bolts can be adjusted differently to follow the contours and bodylines better
,the inside of the nose was modified with plates that bolt up to the "solid formed " guards :2thumbs:
first test fitting of nose :yesnod:
guard filling ,looks crude but once ground and painted sweet
to fit the wider nose onto the 69 guards I had to put "v " cuts in the top of the nose and in essence "shrink " the nose slightly as shown in the preliminary
nose fitting
using the original hood as is in good shape .I have extended and shaped it to fit the nose contours :smash:
Looks good. :2thumbs:
cheers :cheers: I think I own half the local hardware store with all the materials to build it :eek2: .Worth it in the end though
So worth it. Haha, got a running account at NZ Fasteners :icon_smile_big:
The flush look is going to be a win :2thumbs: wondered how much you'd need to slice for the width modification .With the current rate of progress, you could be looking good for mid/late Jan eh :scratchchin: I realise the lights will eat up some time though.
As an aside, a mate of mine just got his 4spd Daytona road legal this week, just in time for holiday cruises , O for Oarsome :2thumbs:
[quote author=Bob T link=topic=106375.msg1290957#msg1290957 date= :2thumbs:big:
The flush look is going to be a win :2thumbs: wondered how much you'd need to slice for the width modification .With the current rate of progress, you could be looking good for mid/late Jan eh :scratchchin: I realise the lights will eat up some time though.
As an aside, a mate of mine just got his 4spd Daytona road legal this week, just in time for holiday cruises , O for Oarsome :2thumbs:
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classic Tua quote eh :smilielol:
I didn't have to shrink very much to make it fit, would love to see some pics of the Daytona
Coming along nicely. :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: Stevearino on December 07, 2013, 07:27:14 AM
Coming along nicely. :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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next up came the fender scoops , I had to narrow these to fit the guard width .I made them more Daytona looking as the 69 guards are are bit squarer and the bubble look didn't quite fit the rest of the contours
Are you doing all of the work yourself or is this a project where you have called in help?
have done most of the work myself , but have a buddy who does the painting side of things he has also helped me with the electrics etc .
He says I always overengineer everything so if it takes me longer to do stuff then that's okay I don't want to take any shortcuts or have regrets :yesnod:
f
starting to tidy up the bodywork now
dd
now for the nose , this is by far the easiest part to do ...... :whistling: :sarcasmalert:
decided to use this spoiler , with the stabilisers on the bottom it gives it a race look stance
reminds me of this :smilielol:
:smilielol: cue the music do dooo do do dooooo do
You have a nice variety of skillsets then Remta.
WOW LOOKING GREAT,totally like the way its working out with 69 hood an fenders. the fenders line an marker lite match with quarter is great. was concerned or up set bout cutting those nice 69 fenders,but great to see ya keep that upper side style line to match. may i sugest drilling an wiring all trimmed off parts together with grill ,for patterns or restoration down the line. not that i wood ever change it back as nice as it is turning out..
think some road runner hood grills or small scoops wood look good to on it.totally understand not starting with rr hood,cost an shipping an purist up in arms an all that.
MY 1, :icon_smile_question: only concern i see looks like you may have glassed over some rivets an little snitch plates on scoops :icon_smile_question: or nose cone?? have seen repairs an custom fiberglass work ruined later on as some aluminum rivets an or screws corroide an cause lumps in the glass work. one friends vette looked like crap bout a year after the nose repair 2 lines of lumps across the nose repair.JUST A IDEA TOO SAVE PROBLEMS LATER?
looking great, i ordered a bird nose for my dartona custom.thanks for pixs an inspiration.latter DJ :2thumbs: :popcrn: :drool5: :cheers:
Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2013, 07:00:49 AM
You have a nice variety of skillsets then Remta.
Call me Jase ,cheers I have learnt lots too, always keen to give things a go ...doesn't always turn out successful sometimes though , but that's life :lol:
Quote from: djcarguy on December 10, 2013, 07:30:46 AM
WOW LOOKING GREAT,totally like the way its working out with 69 hood an fenders. the fenders line an marker lite match with quarter is great. was concerned or up set bout cutting those nice 69 fenders,but great to see ya keep that upper side style line to match. may i sugest drilling an wiring all trimmed off parts together with grill ,for patterns or restoration down the line. not that i wood ever change it back as nice as it is turning out..
think some road runner hood grills or small scoops wood look good to on it.totally understand not starting with rr hood,cost an shipping an purist up in arms an all that.
MY 1, :icon_smile_question: only concern i see looks like you may have glassed over some rivets an little snitch plates on scoops :icon_smile_question: or nose cone?? have seen repairs an custom fiberglass work ruined later on as some aluminum rivets an or screws corroide an cause lumps in the glass work. one friends vette looked like crap bout a year after the nose repair 2 lines of lumps across the nose repair.JUST A IDEA TOO SAVE PROBLEMS LATER?
looking great, i ordered a bird nose for my dartona custom.thanks for pixs an inspiration.latter DJ :2thumbs: :popcrn: :drool5: :cheers:
cheers for the compliments DJ ,like your ideas hopefully I don't have issues with the glassing really important to get the airbubbles out of the resin
cant wait to see the pics of your dartona :2thumbs: build
This is awesome :popcrn:
WONDERING IF OR COULD YA WEIGH ALMOST BARE BIRD NOSE???TRying to get some shipping info an cost figured out without cuttin nose up to ship? will have to cut an narrow for dart so not a super loss to cut. will likly have to cut sides of nose an flatten curve to match dart fenders too?
well getting mounting ideas from your car an Magnumumforce race style daytona,, patently wait for steves--srt-8 nose mount info,ha ha. going no gasket an ancker to fenders with a crash frame in nose?
thanks eee watching ya,ho ho ho..lattter ya safe in zealand :D :D :D lattter DJ wa y o ff in oregon :cheers:
Quote from: djcarguy on December 13, 2013, 11:10:01 AM
WONDERING IF OR COULD YA WEIGH ALMOST BARE BIRD NOSE???TRying to get some shipping info an cost figured out without cuttin nose up to ship? will have to cut an narrow for dart so not a super loss to cut. will likly have to cut sides of nose an flatten curve to match dart fenders too?
well getting mounting ideas from your car an Magnumumforce race style daytona,, patently wait for steves--srt-8 nose mount info,ha ha. going no gasket an ancker to fenders with a crash frame in nose?
thanks eee watching ya,ho ho ho..lattter ya safe in zealand :D :D :D lattter DJ wa y o ff in oregon :cheers:
weighs approx. 33 ponds no accurate way as nose is now on the car and mounted .I can lift it comfortably on my own.Yep I have no gasket anchored in frames and front radiator support and lower valance support .
Oregaon doesn't look far away on google maps :smilielol:
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Guard cutout for coronet fender signal
decided not to use the fiberglass buckets drove me nuts to try and tidy up the fiberglass :brickwall: and have gone with sheetmetal ones . :2thumbs:
mock ups using sheet metal .Ihave had to use a single headlight system to get thru compliance , I may change once thru compliance, but am getting used to the look of the single ...you only need it at night anyway :lol:
the actuator system is from a Honda prelude with pop up headlights they are dime a dozen over here .The whole system I took out of the prelude included the buckets light pods actuators and motors adjusters and wiring etc .
The whole lot cost me $50 bucks ...mock ups for motor mountings
bucket motors and pivots are fully adjustable both manually and electronically , and the light buckets pop up and down super quick :2thumbs: because I am not using z braces the whole set up is a lot lighter and I have better air circulation for cooling etc
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.buckets look a bit crude until tidied up , managed to get the parking lenses cheap :yesnod: the whole nose set up wired in and ready to mount
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Quote from: remta1 on December 14, 2013, 01:11:09 AMOregan doesn't look far away on google maps :smilielol:
Isn't everything about the same distance from New Zealand? ;)
Quote from: Ghoste on December 14, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
Quote from: remta1 on December 14, 2013, 01:11:09 AMOregan doesn't look far away on google maps :smilielol:
Isn't everything about the same distance from New Zealand? ;)
too far for a beer :'( :lol:
looking great some good an creative work on your mulebird. when you talked of the complance stuff,inner fender structure an light podes or base. i was thinking you had to use stock lite base.even first pixs with nose mount i was thinking stock lite mount wood work an look great with drop down lite doors or move lite doors up a inch or two an keep the stock fixed lite local. me personally one of my dislikes is the bug eyed pop up lites on any car,think they are way odd on a streamline aero wing car, :Twocents:sorry just my feeling on bug eye look.
but totally love the 69 base idea an way its coming together.will enjoy following ya build and all pixs shared here. thanks an MERRY CHRISTMAS AN HAPPY HOLIDAYs IN ZZZZZ-LAND.
PLEASE DONt vacation too long ,as some of us are glued too wing car builds an very bored without our regular updates an mopar fix,iam a mopar addict,i addmit it, having wing withdrawal,,,ho ho ho.love UR 69 bird. :cheers: :D
Quote from: djcarguy on December 22, 2013, 10:42:15 AM
looking great some good an creative work on your mulebird. when you talked of the complance stuff,inner fender structure an light podes or base. i was thinking you had to use stock lite base.even first pixs with nose mount i was thinking stock lite mount wood work an look great with drop down lite doors or move lite doors up a inch or two an keep the stock fixed lite local. me personally one of my dislikes is the bug eyed pop up lites on any car,think they are way odd on a streamline aero wing car, :Twocents:sorry just my feeling on bug eye look.
but totally love the 69 base idea an way its coming together.will enjoy following ya build and all pixs shared here. thanks an MERRY CHRISTMAS AN HAPPY HOLIDAYs IN ZZZZZ-LAND.
PLEASE DONt vacation too long ,as some of us are glued too wing car builds an very bored without our regular updates an mopar fix,iam a mopar addict,i addmit it, having wing withdrawal,,,ho ho ho.love UR 69 bird. :cheers: :D
ihave gone with single headlight in the meantime ,,will post more pics soon .....don't want you waiting to long DJ :lol: :cheers:
time to attack the interior ....floors are super clean absolutely no holes :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
look all white/yellowy from the dust :popcrn:
rustproofed the floors and chipguarded the floors ( chipguard is normally used underneath the car) ..makes a very good sound deadener....
you sure picked a great project car to start with . great floors an body to build with..
HAPPY NEW YEAR DOWN UNDER. Enjoy the car an build,have a good year an show us winter hibernators what ya up to downunder. :cheers: :popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :2thumbs:
Quote from: Ghoste on December 14, 2013, 07:30:53 PM
Quote from: remta1 on December 14, 2013, 01:11:09 AMOregan doesn't look far away on google maps :smilielol:
Isn't everything about the same distance from New Zealand? ;)
nah I'm very close Melbourne Australia , short flight over, it's ou guys that are far away heh
Quote from: djcarguy on January 01, 2014, 05:01:19 AM
you sure picked a great project car to start with . great floors an body to build with..
HAPPY NEW YEAR DOWN UNDER. Enjoy the car an build,have a good year an show us winter hibernators what ya up to downunder. :cheers: :popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :2thumbs:
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okay , so the bulk of the stuff on the car has been addressed now for the rear fender scoops .Tried unsuccessfully to recreate the factory ones and then decided to go to the extreme.1.KICKASS BIG WING 2.KICKASS BIG NOSE CONE 3.KICK ASS SIDE SCOOPS ?
Only my own opinion but I really like these scoops on my particular car ...after all it is a mule car and everything was experimental :shruggy:
L.
Yep I know wing a bit floppy yet :lol: until final adjustments....
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2, next stage paint :2thumbs:
I like the side scoops, But you spent so much time fabricating the front and rear sections why not graft them into the quarters rather than bolt onto?
I love seeing updates to this thread! :2thumbs:
What a beautiful job!
I went back and looked at the mule photos and I don't see any side scoops. Are there other photos with side scoops that I haven't seen?
Quote from: 66FBCharger on January 27, 2014, 12:32:05 PM
What a beautiful job!
I went back and looked at the mule photos and I don't see any side scoops. Are there other photos with side scoops that I haven't seen?
No, because it would have been counter productive to the purpose of the car to install large scoops on the quarters to catch air and increase drag.
What Doug said, typically scoops in that area are small and added out of a need for brake cooling.
Quote from: FJ5WING on January 27, 2014, 12:02:58 PM
I like the side scoops, But you spent so much time fabricating the front and rear sections why not graft them into the quarters rather than bolt onto?
I love seeing updates to this thread! :2thumbs:
thanks for the comments , I love posting them :2thumbs: to get thru compliance they have to be bolted hadn't really thought about grafting but it is a good idea , had seriously thought about running scoops thru body with cutouts to the rear brakes ( still have to fabricate vents for the scoop holes ) after I get it road legal I will readdress , :scratchchin: :cheers:
paint time :drool5:
clean up on the grass
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looks awsum the nose to 69 an wing an top fender scoops all are looking like could bee original concept,great work.
now while i like an have a set like your side scoops on the hood of my 67 belvedere ragtop with some GTXtrim that i built in 1985. an had them on 2 of my 70 dart swinger hoods,an love the twin scoops on hoods. think they may bee alittle big an long for side scoops,but it does give it a personal an mean look. waited days to post an they are growing on me. allways loved the 69 bee an 70 bee-rt coronet side vents scoops.the 70 side scoops are smaller but still add a nice trim break to the quarter panal.
well i say ya car build an enjoy your car your way. i have enjoyed beeing a fly on the wall seeing it come together. are ya going to add a trunk trim plate between tail lites?? enjoy an send some pixs at shows an out an about. :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :drool5: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Sorry , no posts for a while , just recovering in hospital from a second operation to fix issues from the first operation :brickwall: :hack: :hack:
Quote from: remta1 on February 14, 2014, 10:44:20 PM
Sorry , no posts for a while , just recovering in hospital from a second operation to fix issues from the first operation :brickwall: :hack: :hack:
Get well soon bud, was down your way last week on a work trip, wouldn't have minded giving you a bell for a quick look at the car but only had one night free, caught up with Motown Mac in dunners and had a poke round in his garage.
As mate that would have been good .kevins got some goodies to show and that motor is looking pretty wicked
I will pm you my contact number
Hi thought I would give you an update have 2 partially collapsed lungs so trying to fight of any further complications there' had emergency surgery on Friday and they had to remove the central nerve system from my groin area as there was damage from the first surgery it stopped me from bring able to walk so I am lucky now as I had my first walk today have catheter and tones into the lungs to make things right had my first stand up and walk before ,very emotional moment so just taking things day by day here in the hospital .
Quote from: remta1 on February 16, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
As mate that would have been good .kevins got some goodies to show and that motor is looking pretty wicked
I will pm you my contact number
Hi thought I would give you an update have 2 partially collapsed lungs so trying to fight of any further complications there' had emergency surgery on Friday and they had to remove the central nerve system from my groin area as there was damage from the first surgery it stopped me from bring able to walk so I am lucky now as I had my first walk today have catheter and tones into the lungs to make things right had my first stand up and walk before ,very emotional moment so just taking things day by day here in the hospital .
Called in yesterday, while cruising around. No wonder you were not there.
Take care.
Good Lord yes, relax and recuperate! That sounds like some serious stuff you have going on there. :o
Quote from: boss429kiwi on February 17, 2014, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: remta1 on February 16, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
As mate that would have been good .kevins got some goodies to show and that motor is looking pretty wicked
I will pm you my contact number
Hi thought I would give you an update have 2 partially collapsed lungs so trying to fight of any further complications there' had emergency surgery on Friday and they had to remove the central nerve system from my groin area as there was damage from the first surgery it stopped me from bring able to walk so I am lucky now as I had my first walk today have catheter and tones into the lungs to make things right had my first stand up and walk before ,very emotional moment so just taking things day by day here in the hospital .
Called in yesterday, while cruising around. No wonder you were not there.
Thanks for your kind thoughts Gary ,I went in for two hernia operations
And it all went haywire from there
Take care.
Sorry for your rough stretch.
We're hoping I stay out of the hospital this year, might be possible to save some money.
I can imagine how emotional a person would get to be able to walk again after being temporarily (at least you were hoping for that) down.
My worst moment was when my daughter 1st came up to see me. She stayed @ the door edge & was on high alert cause every time I moved she thought I was gonna transform into "The Tickle Monster" & chase after her picking her up & make believing I was eating her belly....
That ol' hot rod of yours will be waiting for you to get out. Take care of yourself. :2thumbs:
Hi
(way off subject, from your project)
In October last year, I was rushed to hospital with a burst appendix. 4 days later I was released from hospital, but returned 24 hours late with infection and spent another 4 days in hospital.
Even though I NEVER WANT TO GO BACK!, I must say the care and service I received was outstanding! I found the staff to be caring, friendly and very professional :angelwing:
Outstanding for a public service.
I hope your experiences are the same.
Cheers
Gary
Quote from: 472 R/T SE on February 17, 2014, 03:11:31 PM
Sorry for your rough stretch.
We're hoping I stay out of the hospital this year, might be possible to save some money.
I can imagine how emotional a person would get to be able to walk again after being temporarily (at least you were hoping for that) down.
My worst moment was when my daughter 1st came up to see me. She stayed @ the door edge & was on high alert cause every time I moved she thought I was gonna transform into "The Tickle Monster" & chase after her picking her up & make believing I was eating her belly....
The tickle monster nice :lol:thanks for your support you guys on this site are amazing :2thumbs:
Quote from: boss429kiwi on February 17, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
Hi
(way off subject, from your project)
In October last year, I was rushed to hospital with a burst appendix. 4 days later I was released from hospital, but returned 24 hours late with infection and spent another 4 days in hospital.
Even though I NEVER WANT TO GO BACK!, I must say the care and service I received was outstanding! I found the staff to be caring, friendly and very professional :angelwing:
Outstanding for a public service.
Dead right Gary I have to certainly agree there ,the level of care and professionalism I have also received has been amazing
Even the foods quite good ,not as good as your cooking thou mate :drool5: :cheers:
Whoa, never guessed it was as dire as that.
All the best for a speedy and full recovery mate.
Yeah, had a few cold ones while at Bruno's bar while I was down there and had the "tour", what a good rooster he is too.
Get well soon man. That Superbird needs a driver for a good shakedown run. :2thumbs:
Couldn't agree with you more , out of hospital today slow recovery but will be worth it when back to normal .
Have lots more pics to post ,plenty of time to do this now wish I was working on the car though still lots to do Lol
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Hope ya recovering well. just here looking at your 69 wing car an dreaming somemore. Got the ee that my bird nose is done just working on shipping,now.. i did get a set of 70 road runner quarter scoops that spent 30 odd years on a superbird .
still dreaming of an 68-69 rr or 69 cornet with charger skin,for a custom wing car. but for now will bee fitting my repo alum daytona wing an parts to my 75 dart swinger 2 seater topless..
Get well an post progress on ya great concept personal wing car.. will beee watching..DJ :drool5: :popcrn: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
cheers DJ and everyone else much appreciated .....some more pics , hope you like
..,decided to put decals on , windows in now :yesnod:
Looks good :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Nice build and good looking car! :cheers:
That's turning out GREAT!
First things first however....and that's your health!
Take care man and :cheers: to a full recovery!!!
Quote from: remta1 on March 13, 2014, 01:01:33 AM
cheers DJ and everyone else much appreciated .....some more pics , hope you like
interesting build you got going on !! looks good !! sorry to hear about your hospital stuff !! hope you make a speedy recovery :yesnod: :cheers:
AWSUM DOWN UNDER AN TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT LOOKING FROM HERE IN USA,,,WHAT?
AWESUM LOOKING GREAT,,ENJOY IT SOON :popcrn: :drool5: :drool5: :cheers: :2thumbs:
How ya bee?? an new pixs an info,,progress??? sent ya PM too.. hope ya getting better to enjoy this neat wing car.. :cheers: :cheers: :popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
You know - as I start to get more towards retirement and a "daily driver" instead of my pristine - scared to drive it - mobile retirement bank account.... I could go for something "one off" like this. It's unique and if I started with the right body - say just a satellite - to keep the total costs down - this could work.
Good inspiration and the F8 is my favorite color.
Quote from: djcarguy on March 23, 2014, 06:10:16 PM
How ya bee?? an new pixs an info,,progress??? sent ya PM too.. hope ya getting better to enjoy this neat wing car.. :cheers: :cheers: :popcrn: :popcrn: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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thanks DJ ...just been taking it easy going to muck around with the car tomorrow...havnt touched the car for a long time :'(
car is now back at my home so good too have it handy ......will post pics later
speaking of pics where are all yours :poke:
:cheers: yay now fully road legal .This is from a local cruise night in the weekend.
I will tell ya what ...all those times you thought you were getting nowhere , all those times when you couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel, all the times you felt like throwing your tools across the workshop........all worth it when you get to here.
Still a bit to be done yet but will post more pics soon ( the cars are never really finished..LOL).Thanks to everyone on the site here .All the advice on how to do things ..or not do things ..much appreciated ..virtual beers all around. :2thumbs:
Funny thing really , when I first looked at doing this, I thought a lot of things to do to attempt this but shouldn't be too bad ......MAN ! serious understatement . :smilielol: .
Looks sharp Remta, get a few more pics up man!
Go and put a couple of tanks through on a fang around the Caitlins and let us know how it goes :2thumbs:
too busy driving to take pics...lol :angel: :yesnod:
wow, a ton of work but you've created something beautiful. not many 69 superbirds out there :cheers: :cheers:
Quote from: BigBlockSam on May 09, 2015, 02:17:26 PM
wow, a ton of work but you've created something beautiful. not many 69 superbirds out there :cheers: :cheers:
thanks , just really great to drive it , lots of time dreaming to get it to this stage still a few we things to do yet but trying to get in as much as I can to iron out the bugs before winter comes :cheers:
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That should have been one of the factory offered colors for a superbird, I like the green with the black nose mask etc. Those 1/4 scoops are bad assss. :2thumbs:
cheers , the car is in bits at the moment as I blew a hole in the side of the transmission ...hopefully have it up and running soon once the transmission is rebuilt and the engine out back together :cheers:
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She visited me over the weekend :cheers:
Wonderful build Remta!
'Living my dream' well said, that's where I've been going wrong.
Must get back to living 'MY' dream too, lol :pity:
ps Not easy being Green! but you pulled it OFF!!! :2thumbs:
pps I woulda put the scoops on da Hood and reversed 'em... :coolgleamA:
Thanks Jon
just doing some local shows in it now so will post some more photos
nice work man :popcrn:
Reading an planning. going to look at a 68 sport Satellite.wednesday looked a a 69satellite last week ,but guy is not ready to sell it,,,,,yet??
have a bird nose ,but my wing is solid alum.repop daytona wing??
well your car is a great inspiration an eye candy.. did you make or save patterns for fender mods?? :popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: djcarguy on November 06, 2017, 11:08:14 PM
Reading an planning. going to look at a 68 sport Satellite.wednesday looked a a 69satellite last week ,but guy is not ready to sell it,,,,,yet??
have a bird nose ,but my wing is solid alum.repop daytona wing??
well your car is a great inspiration an eye candy.. did you make or save patterns for fender mods?? :popcrn: :popcrn: :drool5: :drool5: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Thanks for your comments DJ ,I made patterns up for the fenders ,but I didn't keep them .
Hope that the 68 works out , would be awesome to see your dreams and ideas come true for you :2thumbs:
:drool5: :drool5: :popcrn: :popcrn: been few years?any new pix ,info,changes??Happy holidays and maybeee a great new year ? :2thumbs: