Sometime this summer I'm planning on finally doing the swap from the 727 to the Chryco Psycho 4-speed he built me (must have been 10 years ago).
Before I go spending a couple grand, if someone with some experience on Mopar 4-speeds and what is needed can take a look at my parts list I borrowed and modified as best I could from the sticky thread and the best vendor I could find that had most of what I needed, I'd appreciate it.
Links, or just google, "jimsautoparts <part number>" will pull the page
Things I already have....
1972 Dodge Charger with a Slap Stick Console Shifter
A-833OD transmission
Quicktime RM-6073 Bellhousing
BB stock Steel Flywheel
Clutch Fork
Links to the pages of the vendor I found most of this stuff at:
https://www.jimsautoparts.com/clutch_parts.htm
https://www.jimsautoparts.com/transmission_parts.htm
https://www.jimsautoparts.com/shifter_parts.htm
https://www.jimsautoparts.com/mopar_performance_manual_trans.htm
Part Price Parts List
Clutch
already have - Bellhousing
P4120383 68.95 - Offset dowels for bellhousing alignment, usually 0.007
P5007051 9.95 - Pilot bushing for end of crank
- Clutch Assy (usually comes as set with pack and throw out bearing)
already have - Clutch fork
CL-159 29.95 - Clutch fork boot
CL-1104 69.95 - Bellhousing fork pivot
CL-714B 119.95 Clutch Pedal to Z-Bar Clutch Rod
FW-TS8 119.95 - Torque shaft (Z-bar)
- Torque shaft service kit
TR-975 6.95 - Flywheel w/bolts
CB-1130A 119.95 - Clutch adjusting rod assembly (Rod, nuts, clips, grommet and spring)
CL-166A 39.95 Clutch Fork Adjuster Bolt
- Steel dust cover with bolts
CL-221 18.95 - Fork Spring
Transmission
already have - Transmission w/B-body tailshaft
- Shifter with rods, clips, etc.
- Shifter handle
re-use with modification - Transmission mount
Console/interior
- 4 speed console or modify your current automatic console
- Console plastic/fiberglass side cover
SP-885 39.95 - 4 speed side cover console chrome trim
SH-487 8.5 screw kit
- Console 4 speed top cover
SP-171 49.95 - Console shifter boot
- Console decals
- Carpet
- Console carpet
- Clutch rod Boot
- 'Lil "reverse" light on dash if you want to be authentic
TR-4020 94.95 Speedometer Cable
TR-4631 159.95 Speedometer Gear
Structural
CL-BRCPKE71 399.95 - Clutch pedal assembly
- Clutch Pedal firewall stiffener bracket (goes through firewall)
included - Rubber pads for pedal faces
DS-16040C 169.95 - Floor tunnel (weld in)
CL-169 59.95 - Frame ballstud bracket (weld in)
- Torque Shaft ball stud and nut
- Lower Shifter boot
Consumables to Purchase
- Interior Paint
- Plastic Adhesion Promoter
- Plastic repair kit (if using an old console...trust me it's cracked somewhere)
- Semi-gloss black paint
- 3M spray adhesive
-0000 steel wool
- Simple Green
That is an AWESOME and very comprehensive list aifilaw!! I mean whoever put that together knew their stuff!!
Hey a few things:
- For the console if you're going with the '72 style You shouldn't need to make any modifications, the cut out is standard for both Auto and manual if I'm not mistaken...3rd Gen and E-body guys chime in
- Also, the cracks and damage were for 1st and 2nd gen Consoles, I think the 3rd Gens are better..Oh no side cover either
- You are going to LOVE the car after the conversion...let me know if you have questions!
It's a 440 source 383>426 crank that's in there now. I will try to take some pictures of the trans and I need to get around to temp attaching the bell to the trans to see fitment for sure.
Quote from: RallyeMike on April 10, 2018, 11:10:11 PM
No time to check every part number, but here is my checklist:
1. Not sure that bell fits the AOD833 which has a larger input bearing diameter than 833. Since you say you have both bell and trans, measure and double check.
2. If the bell needs to be changed, make sure you buy fork, etc. that fits that bell.
3. You need TWO bell studs - one for the bell and one for the frame bracket. The stud in the bell does not require a nut.
4. Make sure your crank is drilled for a pilot bushing. Not all are.
5. Make sure your trans has the forward shift mount. This is needed for 72 console shifter linkage. Even so, often these trans tail forward shift mounts need to be drilled, so be prepared for that.
6. You'll need a dial gauge and magnetic base to set your bell offset.
7. A clutch pilot tool is a good idea for centering/aligning the clutch.
8. Your 727 speedo cable will work with the AOD833.
9. If you need to trim your console to fit 4 speed, I'd be happy to send you a template. No need to buy anything.
10. Match flywheel to forged or cast crank.
11. Add thread locker to your shopping list for flywheel bolts.
12. I did not see the aluminum shifter mount in the parts list but may have overlooked it (mounts between the tailshaft and actual shift er mechanism).
13. Make sure to hook up tabs and linkage on the trans for AOD833 which is different than std 833. Since the AOD did not come in the 72, you'll need to reference a later service manual.
Have fun rowing your boat. :cheers:
Ditch the stock flywheel. You just spent 700 dollars on a blowproof, you dont want to test it. Put an sfi wheel in it.
Pictures of the parts I do have so far. Tranny is a 23 spline
bellhousing is for a 13 tooth flywheel and fit as big as 11" clutch 7.4 deep 22 pounds