Opinions on them?
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 04, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
Opinions on them?
I just used a set of the Victor Jr HEMI Heads(revised) on a build recently, laptop for the Flowbench crashed so if I can get it back up I will post the Flow data before/after etc., but they Flowed very well, certainly on par with Stage V.
Remember,
these things Flow so much air nowadays, BIG Cam, or BIG Engine is advised. Nothing worse for streetability that too BIG a Cylinder Head for the Cam/Engine combo.
Is the question if the Stage V Hemi heads are a better route than than the Victor Jr heads on an original style Hemi block or if Stage V Hemi conversion heads are better than Victor Jr wedge heads?
Quote from: HPP on April 08, 2018, 10:17:39 AM
Is the question if the Stage V Hemi heads are a better route than than the Victor Jr heads on an original style Hemi block or if Stage V Hemi conversion heads are better than Victor Jr wedge heads?
I thought he was inquiring around the Stage V
HEMI Headsversus
The Edelbrock Victor Jr
HEMI Heads(http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/images/61169.jpg)
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 08, 2018, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: HPP on April 08, 2018, 10:17:39 AM
Is the question if the Stage V Hemi heads are a better route than than the Victor Jr heads on an original style Hemi block or if Stage V Hemi conversion heads are better than Victor Jr wedge heads?
I thought he was inquiring around the Stage V HEMI Heads
versus
The Edelbrock Victor Jr HEMI Heads
(http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/images/61169.jpg)
Yes he is asking about real Hemi heads, nothing to do with wedge stuff, he is building a aftermarket block Hemi for his 68 Charger
Quote from: cdr on April 09, 2018, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 08, 2018, 10:32:23 AM
Quote from: HPP on April 08, 2018, 10:17:39 AM
Is the question if the Stage V Hemi heads are a better route than than the Victor Jr heads on an original style Hemi block or if Stage V Hemi conversion heads are better than Victor Jr wedge heads?
I thought he was inquiring around the Stage V HEMI Heads
versus
The Edelbrock Victor Jr HEMI Heads
(http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/mc/cylinder-heads/images/61169.jpg)
Yes he is asking about real Hemi heads, nothing to do with wedge stuff, he is building a aftermarket block Hemi for his 68 Charger
Thx Charlie, I will see what I can dig up for a Flow Sheet on the revised Victors.
Mine had to have machine work for pushrods clearance with roller cam
Cool. Didn't know Ebrock was in the Hemi head business.
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 07, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 04, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
Opinions on them?
I just used a set of the Victor Jr HEMI Heads(revised) on a build recently, laptop for the Flowbench crashed so if I can get it back up I will post the Flow data before/after etc., but they Flowed very well, certainly on par with Stage V.
Similar flow numbers and also similar port volume or no?
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 07, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 04, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
Opinions on them?
I just used a set of the Victor Jr HEMI Heads(revised) on a build recently, laptop for the Flowbench crashed so if I can get it back up I will post the Flow data before/after etc., but they Flowed very well, certainly on par with Stage V.
Remember,
these things Flow so much air nowadays, BIG Cam, or BIG Engine is advised. Nothing worse for streetability that too BIG a Cylinder Head for the Cam/Engine combo.
thx challenger340 sorry for late responding been busy buying so many car parts, lol.....been talking to my builder and he has let me be involved in my HEMI build we both give inputs and I get to learn on building and how the HEMI operates etc.
My builder recommended me the victor jr heads, but I wanted to research more on the heads some folks say stage V big valve heads are best or indy etc. My car is a street car and might see drags twice a year for fun, but I still want a lot of performance for the street also. We are doing a solid roller cam setup he said he can get the eddy heads to flow 440ish cfm and victor is better for street because of narrow ports for the street setup he wont break records on max flow, but will outperform the stage 5 for streetability.
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 22, 2018, 05:41:05 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 07, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 04, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
Opinions on them?
I just used a set of the Victor Jr HEMI Heads(revised) on a build recently, laptop for the Flowbench crashed so if I can get it back up I will post the Flow data before/after etc., but they Flowed very well, certainly on par with Stage V.
Remember,
these things Flow so much air nowadays, BIG Cam, or BIG Engine is advised. Nothing worse for streetability that too BIG a Cylinder Head for the Cam/Engine combo.
thx challenger340 sorry for late responding been busy buying so many car parts, lol.....been talking to my builder and he has let me be involved in my HEMI build we both give inputs and I get to learn on building and how the HEMI operates etc.
My builder recommended me the victor jr heads, but I wanted to research more on the heads some folks say stage V big valve heads are best or indy etc. My car is a street car and might see drags twice a year for fun, but I still want a lot of performance for the street also. We are doing a solid roller cam setup he said he can get the eddy heads to flow 440ish cfm and victor is better for street because of narrow ports for the street setup he wont break records on max flow, but will outperform the stage 5 for streetability.
We made 700 with the Eddy's on a std Bore NON-Stroker actual "426" cubic inch using 91 Octane and a Flat Tappet Solid Cam, so they do work well. But obviously here, even an OOTB Eddy is a little "BIG" for such a small engine so rpm is req'd.
I am NOT a fan of Race type Mechanical Roller Cam Profiles for any kind of extended street usage, just far too much V/Spring continuity, Oiling, and V/Train geometry must be maintained(in my opinion), with any of the Roller Cams requiring 200+ish Seat pressure on 500+ Rate per inch V/Springs....
Remember here... the only way those 200+ Seat / 500+ Rate per inch V/Spring
cool in the street driving environment is the flow of fresh Oil over them to take away the heat of cycling ?
and add to that,
the "Street" type Mechanical Rollers actually designed for
street usage ? We've just never seen sufficient extra power to justify the expense versus a well matched Solid F.T.
I better go dig up some Flow Sheets on the Eddy Victors
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 22, 2018, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 22, 2018, 05:41:05 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 07, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 04, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
Opinions on them?
I just used a set of the Victor Jr HEMI Heads(revised) on a build recently, laptop for the Flowbench crashed so if I can get it back up I will post the Flow data before/after etc., but they Flowed very well, certainly on par with Stage V.
Remember,
these things Flow so much air nowadays, BIG Cam, or BIG Engine is advised. Nothing worse for streetability that too BIG a Cylinder Head for the Cam/Engine combo.
thx challenger340 sorry for late responding been busy buying so many car parts, lol.....been talking to my builder and he has let me be involved in my HEMI build we both give inputs and I get to learn on building and how the HEMI operates etc.
My builder recommended me the victor jr heads, but I wanted to research more on the heads some folks say stage V big valve heads are best or indy etc. My car is a street car and might see drags twice a year for fun, but I still want a lot of performance for the street also. We are doing a solid roller cam setup he said he can get the eddy heads to flow 440ish cfm and victor is better for street because of narrow ports for the street setup he wont break records on max flow, but will outperform the stage 5 for streetability.
We made 700 with the Eddy's on a std Bore NON-Stroker actual "426" cubic inch using 91 Octane and a Flat Tappet Solid Cam, so they do work well. But obviously here, even an OOTB Eddy is a little "BIG" for such a small engine so rpm is req'd.
I am NOT a fan of Race type Mechanical Roller Cam Profiles for any kind of extended street usage, just far too much V/Spring continuity, Oiling, and V/Train geometry must be maintained(in my opinion), with any of the Roller Cams requiring 200+ish Seat pressure on 500+ Rate per inch V/Springs....
Remember here... the only way those 200+ Seat / 500+ Rate per inch V/Spring cool in the street driving environment is the flow of fresh Oil over them to take away the heat of cycling ?
and add to that,
the "Street" type Mechanical Rollers actually designed for street usage ? We've just never seen sufficient extra power to justify the expense versus a well matched Solid F.T.
I better go dig up some Flow Sheets on the Eddy Victors
I forgot what he is using for oiling of the heads, but they are better than stock he saids the oil comes up the push rods etc and helps oiling them better or something. Im still trying to learn about the solid roller cam vs hydraulic roller cam for streets which is better and reliable.
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 22, 2018, 09:34:05 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 22, 2018, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 22, 2018, 05:41:05 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 07, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 04, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
Opinions on them?
I just used a set of the Victor Jr HEMI Heads(revised) on a build recently, laptop for the Flowbench crashed so if I can get it back up I will post the Flow data before/after etc., but they Flowed very well, certainly on par with Stage V.
Remember,
these things Flow so much air nowadays, BIG Cam, or BIG Engine is advised. Nothing worse for streetability that too BIG a Cylinder Head for the Cam/Engine combo.
thx challenger340 sorry for late responding been busy buying so many car parts, lol.....been talking to my builder and he has let me be involved in my HEMI build we both give inputs and I get to learn on building and how the HEMI operates etc.
My builder recommended me the victor jr heads, but I wanted to research more on the heads some folks say stage V big valve heads are best or indy etc. My car is a street car and might see drags twice a year for fun, but I still want a lot of performance for the street also. We are doing a solid roller cam setup he said he can get the eddy heads to flow 440ish cfm and victor is better for street because of narrow ports for the street setup he wont break records on max flow, but will outperform the stage 5 for streetability.
We made 700 with the Eddy's on a std Bore NON-Stroker actual "426" cubic inch using 91 Octane and a Flat Tappet Solid Cam, so they do work well. But obviously here, even an OOTB Eddy is a little "BIG" for such a small engine so rpm is req'd.
I am NOT a fan of Race type Mechanical Roller Cam Profiles for any kind of extended street usage, just far too much V/Spring continuity, Oiling, and V/Train geometry must be maintained(in my opinion), with any of the Roller Cams requiring 200+ish Seat pressure on 500+ Rate per inch V/Springs....
Remember here... the only way those 200+ Seat / 500+ Rate per inch V/Spring cool in the street driving environment is the flow of fresh Oil over them to take away the heat of cycling ?
and add to that,
the "Street" type Mechanical Rollers actually designed for street usage ? We've just never seen sufficient extra power to justify the expense versus a well matched Solid F.T.
I better go dig up some Flow Sheets on the Eddy Victors
I forgot what he is using for oiling of the heads, but they are better than stock he saids the oil comes up the push rods etc and helps oiling them better or something. Im still trying to learn about the solid roller cam vs hydraulic roller cam for streets which is better and reliable.
My apologies here, but I can offer no relevant or helpful information within
your plans, so it's time for me to bail and leave you and your builder to do as you wish.
Good Luck with your Engine build, I mean that.
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 24, 2018, 08:45:09 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 22, 2018, 09:34:05 PM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 22, 2018, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 22, 2018, 05:41:05 AM
Quote from: Challenger340 on April 07, 2018, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: 1974dodgecharger on April 04, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
Opinions on them?
I just used a set of the Victor Jr HEMI Heads(revised) on a build recently, laptop for the Flowbench crashed so if I can get it back up I will post the Flow data before/after etc., but they Flowed very well, certainly on par with Stage V.
Remember,
these things Flow so much air nowadays, BIG Cam, or BIG Engine is advised. Nothing worse for streetability that too BIG a Cylinder Head for the Cam/Engine combo.
thx challenger340 sorry for late responding been busy buying so many car parts, lol.....been talking to my builder and he has let me be involved in my HEMI build we both give inputs and I get to learn on building and how the HEMI operates etc.
My builder recommended me the victor jr heads, but I wanted to research more on the heads some folks say stage V big valve heads are best or indy etc. My car is a street car and might see drags twice a year for fun, but I still want a lot of performance for the street also. We are doing a solid roller cam setup he said he can get the eddy heads to flow 440ish cfm and victor is better for street because of narrow ports for the street setup he wont break records on max flow, but will outperform the stage 5 for streetability.
We made 700 with the Eddy's on a std Bore NON-Stroker actual "426" cubic inch using 91 Octane and a Flat Tappet Solid Cam, so they do work well. But obviously here, even an OOTB Eddy is a little "BIG" for such a small engine so rpm is req'd.
I am NOT a fan of Race type Mechanical Roller Cam Profiles for any kind of extended street usage, just far too much V/Spring continuity, Oiling, and V/Train geometry must be maintained(in my opinion), with any of the Roller Cams requiring 200+ish Seat pressure on 500+ Rate per inch V/Springs....
Remember here... the only way those 200+ Seat / 500+ Rate per inch V/Spring cool in the street driving environment is the flow of fresh Oil over them to take away the heat of cycling ?
and add to that,
the "Street" type Mechanical Rollers actually designed for street usage ? We've just never seen sufficient extra power to justify the expense versus a well matched Solid F.T.
I better go dig up some Flow Sheets on the Eddy Victors
I forgot what he is using for oiling of the heads, but they are better than stock he saids the oil comes up the push rods etc and helps oiling them better or something. Im still trying to learn about the solid roller cam vs hydraulic roller cam for streets which is better and reliable.
My apologies here, but I can offer no relevant or helpful information within your plans, so it's time for me to bail and leave you and your builder to do as you wish.
Good Luck with your Engine build, I mean that.
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