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Title: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on October 27, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
I have a NOS Charger 500 grille emblem and was wondering what it's worth? I had been saving it for the "500" I hope to buy someday. Debating on selling it, but not sure what it's worth in today's market. Any ideas?

Thanks !
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: hemi68charger on October 27, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
mmmmm ??????

Trade ya for something..........  :icon_smile_cool:

Lookin' for anything?
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on October 27, 2011, 09:05:56 PM
Quote from: A34 on October 27, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
I have a NOS Charger 500 grille emblem and was wondering what it's worth? I had been saving it for the "500" I hope to buy someday. Debating on selling it, but not sure what it's worth in today's market. Any ideas?

Thanks !

What is the part number and what condition is the plating/finish?  Got a clear pic of it?
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on October 27, 2011, 09:25:48 PM
For reference...
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on October 27, 2011, 09:51:01 PM
Then there are the reproductions being sold on eBay by practiced liars...  :flame:

If you have a real NOS correct PN emblem that has little or no shelf wear, I would be interested if you don't do a Troy Trade™  :icon_smile_big:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on October 27, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on October 27, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
mmmmm ??????

Trade ya for something..........  :icon_smile_cool:

Lookin' for anything?

Well, not really looking for anything at the moment. Could use a nice 4-spd console top plate and trim setup. Not interested in repro, would need to be super nice original.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on October 27, 2011, 10:47:37 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on October 27, 2011, 09:51:01 PM
Then there are the reproductions being sold on eBay by practiced liars...  :flame:

If you have a real NOS correct PN emblem that has little or no shelf wear, I would be interested if you don't do a Troy Trade™  :icon_smile_big:

Well, it's in my secret hiding place, so I'll have to dig it out, take a pic and verify the p/n. Can probably do it this weekend. However, if memory serves me correct, the pins do not look like what you have pictured. They are longer and I believe hollow on the end. So, maybe it's not NOS, or even correct.

I got it many years ago from the New Product development department at Year One. The guy that I got it from said it was used as a sample to compare against the prototype repro part.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: hemi68charger on October 28, 2011, 06:46:06 AM
Quote from: A34 on October 27, 2011, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: hemi68charger on October 27, 2011, 09:00:21 PM
mmmmm ??????

Trade ya for something..........  :icon_smile_cool:

Lookin' for anything?

Well, not really looking for anything at the moment. Could use a nice 4-spd console top plate and trim setup. Not interested in repro, would need to be super nice original.

Well, don't have one of those.. Sorry..... Allen? Your turn....  ;D
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: paironines on October 28, 2011, 12:08:30 PM
If its got hollow pins it sounds like a grill emblem for a 70 500.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on October 29, 2011, 04:19:23 PM
So, the part number on it is - 2901811. I think these hollow pins are covers to protect the  other pins as they look like they slide on.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on October 29, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
front shot.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on October 29, 2011, 06:21:34 PM
Quote from: A34 on October 29, 2011, 04:28:44 PM
front shot.

Thanks for posting the pics.  I am fairly certain it is either a repro or a reconditioned used one.  Pull the sleeves off and see what the pins look like...
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on October 30, 2011, 03:55:48 PM
when I look at the emblem the corner of the 5 appears alot sharper than when I take a pic and post it. Oh well, here are the pins.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on October 30, 2011, 04:05:49 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: XS29LA47V21 on October 31, 2011, 09:29:21 AM
 just bought a "NOS 69-500" this last month, paid $60-65, was concerned if it was right for that price, what showed is a nice old 70 piece with short studs... not right, clearly to much as it is worth $0 to me as a 70, heading towards screwed to tool box...  Did buy an NOS 69 back RT in box also, believe it is indeed old pcs, was quite a bid more.  Still looking for more NOS stuff myself :pity:.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on October 31, 2011, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: A34 on October 30, 2011, 03:55:48 PM
when I look at the emblem the corner of the 5 appears alot sharper than when I take a pic and post it. Oh well, here are the pins.

You might try mounting the emblem to a sheet of paper, light cardboard, or styrofoam and scanning it in like I did on the first two images below.  The backside pic that you posted looks more "NOS" than then the frontal pics.   It MIGHT be a NOS part that was polished to remove shelf wear prior to making a mold off of it...  :shruggy:  The third pic below shows the backsides of the repros.  The fourth pic shows a known NOS, a close-up of the "5" and the backside...

At this point I cannot be certain what its origin is... anyone else care to chime in with their thoughts?  :popcrn:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Aero426 on October 31, 2011, 10:58:51 AM
The originals appear to have a flat or slightly concave finish to the numbers.    At least that is what I see.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Highbanked Hauler on October 31, 2011, 06:15:59 PM
 Is there any such thing as reconditioning an original emblem :shruggy:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: red69superbee on November 24, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
So as usual, the repros arent exact??
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: nascarxx29 on November 25, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
Is the one at Brads NOS right
http://www.bradsnosmopar.com/nosmo69dococ.html
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: A34 on November 25, 2011, 06:16:58 PM
Quote from: red69superbee on November 24, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
So as usual, the repros arent exact??

I have not had a chance to take any more pics of mine, but I think it's the real deal. I do appreciate all the pics posted of repro's, so I could  compare.  :2thumbs:

In my personal experience, very few repro's come close to  being exact. One of the main problems with emblems is the material they make them out of is soft and they "sag" after awhile on the car.  I'd much rather try and recondition (Or buy NOS) an old emblem than buy a repro if it were for a nice show car and not a driver.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on November 26, 2011, 05:36:54 AM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 25, 2011, 12:14:10 AM
Is the one at Brads NOS right
http://www.bradsnosmopar.com/nosmo69dococ.html

No... it is not even claimed to be the correct emblem... have a look at the description.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Davtona on November 26, 2011, 10:25:20 AM
Quote from: A34 on November 25, 2011, 06:16:58 PM
Quote from: red69superbee on November 24, 2011, 11:17:25 PM
So as usual, the repros arent exact??
One of the main problems with emblems is the material they make them out of is soft and they "sag" after awhile on the car.

:o
I did not realize they are that bad.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: ACUDANUT on November 26, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
 Questions is, Who is going to unbolt/screw the emblems and check for a correct part number. :scratchchin:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on November 26, 2011, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 26, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
Questions is, Who is going to unbolt/screw the emblems and check for a correct part number. :scratchchin:

:shruggy:  No need to do all that... pin length and retention method are completely different, a quick glance behind the grille or in the trunk will tell.  Bonding on phony pins and nuts after installing the later emblem with small screws might make it seem legit.

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=85795.0;attach=161941;image)
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: rainbow4jd on November 26, 2011, 06:25:39 PM
Quote from: A34 on October 27, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
I have a NOS Charger 500 grille emblem and was wondering what it's worth? I had been saving it for the "500" I hope to buy someday. Debating on selling it, but not sure what it's worth in today's market. Any ideas?

Thanks !

ONE MILLLLLLION DOLLARS!


I know I am going to come off as a real pisser here - but it ain't worth nothing until you have a buyer.    If you want to sell it, just list it on Craigslist or Ebay and be done with it.  Whatever its worth, is what someone will actually pay you for it.    What you might imagine its worth and what it's actually worth are two different things.   Anybody that gives you a price on here is just blowing smoke - UNLESS they are saying that's what THEY will pay you for it.


So back to my original point - it's worth ONE MILLLLLION DOLLARS  to the guy who has a million dollars to spend and a charger that is incomplete without it.  All you've got to do is find that person.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: rainbow4jd on November 26, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
No offense intended... but you asked "what is it worth?"

I'm just being cranky today... had to go shopping at the mall with the wife.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on November 26, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: rainbow4jd on November 26, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
No offense intended... but you asked "what is it worth?"

I'm just being cranky today... had to go shopping at the mall with the wife.

What happened... Did she spend
QuoteONE MILLLLLLION DOLLARS!
:shruggy:

Seems like a legit question to me... :Twocents:  Got a bit lengthy trying to figure what "it" was...  :popcrn:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: ACUDANUT on November 27, 2011, 12:21:01 AM
Isn't the 68 Coronet "500"  (on the grill) the same ? :shruggy:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: rainbow4jd on November 28, 2011, 08:58:47 PM
Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on November 26, 2011, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: rainbow4jd on November 26, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
No offense intended... but you asked "what is it worth?"

I'm just being cranky today... had to go shopping at the mall with the wife.

What happened... Did she spend
QuoteONE MILLLLLLION DOLLARS!
:shruggy:

Seems like a legit question to me... :Twocents:  Got a bit lengthy trying to figure what "it" was...  :popcrn:

Not quite a million - but I could have bought a set of NOS parking lamps for my Bird - for what she paid for a purse!
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: odcics2 on August 16, 2013, 03:14:19 PM
So, what is a fair price to both a buyer and seller? 
Something between $0.00 and a million?   :smilielol:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on January 10, 2014, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on August 16, 2013, 03:14:19 PM
So, what is a fair price to both a buyer and seller? 
Something between $0.00 and a million?   :smilielol:

This subject has come up again, a legit NOS 2901811 is coming up for sale... any chance of narrowing the $0 to $1000000 value estimate...?   I guess my WAG would be $150 in absolutely MINT condition with NO shelf-wear, $125 with minimal shelf-wear, $100 with moderate shelf-wear (but not noticeable at 3+ feet)...

No, I will not be the seller........................

Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: odcics2 on January 11, 2014, 11:29:12 AM
I'd guess 100. higher then those figures...    :Twocents:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Lighthorseman on January 11, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
We should start a pool.  

- odcics2 at $100.00...
- xs29j8Bullitt has $100.00, $125.00 and $150.00 locked in...
- I say $151.00...  
- rainbow4jd is at One millllllllllllllllllllllllion...

Can't wait for DJ to chime in.   :D
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Ghoste on January 11, 2014, 03:36:28 PM
I`ll come in low at 75 bucks.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: odcics2 on January 11, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
HEY!!!   I'm at 100. in addition to Allens figures!

Don't sell me short!    :lol:

They don't grow on trees and the repops are junk.   :Twocents:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on January 11, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
Over the last 6 years, I bought seven "NOS" P/N 2901811 emblems, four of them turning out to actually be NOS and a set of three imposters... well done reproductions, complete with the P/N and Pentastar.   None of the four NOS were flawless, but one was near flawless and a bargain at $45... two others had minor shelfwear, but were quite presentable... while the last had moderate shelfwear and slight finish delamination.  Prices paid ranged from $45 to $85, and the three imposters were $185 for the three...
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: odcics2 on January 11, 2014, 06:17:22 PM
Sounds like you don't need anymore, at any price...      :Twocents:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on January 11, 2014, 07:06:27 PM
Quote from: odcics2 on January 11, 2014, 06:17:22 PM
Sounds like you don't need anymore, at any price...      :Twocents:

Very true, in fact I am trying to recoup some of the miss-spent funds by selling the surplus emblems... in most cases for less than I paid for them.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: ws23rt on January 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
Something like this is about as hard to value as they come.   

Selling to a small group of needy is the main obstacle.

I've been looking for a rear deck lid RT emblem for a 69 coronet for years. I am sure they are out there and for a reasonable price but I need to check every day in all the right places to have a chance. Mean while what I want sits on a rotting car or in a box of stuff somewhere.

So this gets back to what is it worth.   To me ??  A NOS part may pull $100 from my cringing fist. But until a deal is made what I need doesn't enrich the one that has one for sale.

On the other hand if the 500 emblem we are talking about were to be selling for many hundreds of dollars I would be tempted to take the one off my car and replace it with a repo. just for security reasons.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: odcics2 on January 11, 2014, 09:09:24 PM
Suppose a guy had a new Charger 500 emblem in a shoe box for 45 years.

Suppose he charged you .50 cents a month to store it.... so then you could put it on your car in 2014.

That comes to $270. and we haven't even gotten to the price of the part itself!!     

Puts it all into perspective when looking for NOS parts.   

Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Ghoste on January 11, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
What if he stole it off the asembly line and I charged him .50 a month not to rat him out?   :D

(I like my version better)
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: 69_500 on January 11, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Allen, would you be willing to part with one of the ones you have purchased? I just need one that is presentable to replace to broken one that has been tied on to my grille for the past 6 years with fishing line.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: xs29j8Bullitt on January 12, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on January 11, 2014, 10:40:25 PM
Allen, would you be willing to part with one of the ones you have purchased? I just need one that is presentable to replace to broken one that has been tied on to my grille for the past 6 years with fishing line.


Sure Danny, I'll dig out the emblems as soon as I have a chance to.... Are you interested in a Repro w/P/N & Pentastar (the ones claimed to be NOS by the eBay seller I purchased them from), or a shelf worn NOS (probably the one with slight delamination)?  I also have several NOS ones from other model years that would look correct when installed...

(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=85795.0;attach=161945;image)
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: 69_500 on January 12, 2014, 04:18:22 PM
Any of the originals that you would be willing to part with. Just let me know a price. Hoping to get a new headliner into my car this year too. Slowly I will get mine to looking more presentable.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: ACUDANUT on January 13, 2014, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on November 27, 2011, 12:21:01 AM
Isn't the 68 Coronet "500"  (on the grill) the same ? :shruggy:

Yaa, what he said.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Old Moparz on January 14, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
The 500 badges on the grille are different.

(1968 & 1969 pictured below)
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Old Moparz on January 14, 2014, 10:44:49 AM
The 1970 Coronet is similar, but not sure.

The deck lids have a similar badge, but I don't have parts books with numbers for all 3 years.  :shruggy:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Ghoste on January 14, 2014, 10:50:17 AM
I think the 69 decklid and fender ones are closer if not the same.  I think the 70 grille one is different.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: odcics2 on January 22, 2014, 04:54:08 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on January 11, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
What if he stole it off the asembly line and I charged him .50 a month not to rat him out?   :D

(I like my version better)

The guy would be at least 65 to 70 and would tell you to pound sand!    :smilielol:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Ghoste on January 22, 2014, 05:01:37 PM
Touche.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: ACUDANUT on January 22, 2014, 11:17:02 PM
Quote from: Old Moparz on January 14, 2014, 10:34:48 AM
The 500 badges on the grille are different.

(1968 & 1969 pictured below)

That's not the same grill they made the 69 Charger 500's from.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Ghoste on January 23, 2014, 08:50:04 AM
The 68 one is.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: ACUDANUT on January 23, 2014, 09:21:56 AM
The 68 Coronet grill pictured here looks different than the ones I have seen.  Maybe because it is a "500" grill ?  :shruggy:
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: Ghoste on January 23, 2014, 09:42:54 AM
Sort of.  The grille itself is the same but the trim around it makes it look different.  The emblem on the front is just placed over top of the grille and so forth, when you remove all of the trim and just see it sitting there it becomes the grille you are accustomed to seeing.
Title: Re: WIW - NOS 69 Charger 500 grille emblem??
Post by: ACUDANUT on January 23, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
 :cheers: