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Started by metcoll, May 23, 2008, 01:20:38 PM

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metcoll

is the fram PH8A the proper oil filter for a 440.........thx

Charger-Bodie

Yes , BUT Fram filters are crap so dont use it!  :Twocents:
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Quote from: 1hot68 on May 23, 2008, 01:54:55 PM
Yes , BUT Fram filters are crap so dont use it!  :Twocents:

:iagree:
I read a report comparing different oil filters, not good for Fram.
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firefighter3931

Use a Napa Gold or Wix oil filter....run away from Fram !  :P



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mally69

Don't use fram they are bad news..

mikepmcs

Quote from: firefighter3931 on May 23, 2008, 11:19:19 PM
Use a Napa Gold or Wix oil filter....run away from Fram !  :P

Ron

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pettybird

purolator gold are excellent, as well.

since that's the filter media inside factory Motorcraft filters, and they're at Auto Zone, that's what I run! 

funny...i don't miss that oil starvation knock at startup ;)

ACUDANUT

 I have never had or heard of Fram being junk ???

Blown70

Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 24, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
I have never had or heard of Fram being junk ???

Ohh they come apart and clog up certain places oil should be going......

mikepmcs

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ACUDANUT

Okay, Where is the recall then ????

Ghoste

Just because there isn't a recall doesn't mean they aren't junk.  How many Lada's were ever recalled?

John_Kunkel

Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 24, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
I have never had or heard of Fram being junk ???

Here's how it works, a hack does an eyeball evaluation of Fram filters and proclaims them substandard, posts that on the internet and everybody who ever had a problem that they claim is related to the Fram filter jumps in and the result is predictable.

Of course, the millions of satisfied Fram users are never heard from, only the negatives get passed on.
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1BAD68

I have to agree, I've been using fram for years and years and never a problem

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Quote from: Ghoste on May 24, 2008, 04:01:27 PM
Just because there isn't a recall doesn't mean they aren't junk.  How many Lada's were ever recalled?

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dads_69

I've used Fram oil filters for over 25 years, no problems to report either about them. Once again, one guy gets a bad filter and like they say, bad news travels faster then good news.
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Plumcrazy

Quote from: John_Kunkel on May 24, 2008, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 24, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
I have never had or heard of Fram being junk ???

Here's how it works, a hack does an eyeball evaluation of Fram filters and proclaims them substandard, posts that on the internet and everybody who ever had a problem that they claim is related to the Fram filter jumps in and the result is predictable.

Of course, the millions of satisfied Fram users are never heard from, only the negatives get passed on.

I have to agree. I've cut open Fram and other brands of filters. Frams are a cheaply built filter compared to other brands.  But, I've removed hundreds if not thousands of Fram filters from perfectly good engines over the years.  Personally I would want a better filter, but Frams seem to be good enough for most applications.  :shruggy:

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Quote from: Plumcrazy on May 24, 2008, 07:58:30 PM
Quote from: John_Kunkel on May 24, 2008, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: ACUDANUT on May 24, 2008, 11:16:50 AM
I have never had or heard of Fram being junk ???

Here's how it works, a hack does an eyeball evaluation of Fram filters and proclaims them substandard, posts that on the internet and everybody who ever had a problem that they claim is related to the Fram filter jumps in and the result is predictable.

Of course, the millions of satisfied Fram users are never heard from, only the negatives get passed on.

I have to agree. I've cut open Fram and other brands of filters. Frams are a cheaply built filter compared to other brands.  But, I've removed hundreds if not thousands of Fram filters from perfectly good engines over the years.  Personally I would want a better filter, but Frams seem to be good enough for most applications.  :shruggy:

you've said it perfectly, "most applications" but if I run $5000 engine I wouldn't put $5 fram oil filter on it. A few extra bucks spent on good quality filter K&N, etc is well worth it.
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crash

i've seen fram filters suck shut on race engines before and ruin a race engine, a couple times, they may be ok for that gasaver that you drive but nothing high output and i'd change it very often, me personally, wix.  i've seen cut opens of oil filters before, with wix, k&n, motorcraft, fram, delco, and the wix and k&n's seem to be the better designs.

Mfr426

I've run Fram for years on my Acuras and never had an issue. I still like Fram for my daily drivers but I used a NAPA Gold on the 505 ( based on Ron's recommendations).

firefighter3931

Quote from: Plumcrazy on May 24, 2008, 07:58:30 PM
Frams are a cheaply built filter compared to other brands.  But, I've removed hundreds if not thousands of Fram filters from perfectly good engines over the years.  Personally I would want a better filter, but Frams seem to be good enough for most applications.  :shruggy:


I tend to agree with Paul here...Frams are poorly built but they used to be a very good filter. I suppose the outsourcing deal has hurt quality control  :P

For a daily driver with limited high RPM use i suppose they would be adequate but on a hot street motor with increased oil pressure (HV oil pump) and some high rpm abuse i don't trust them.  :icon_smile_blackeye:



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aifilaw

Quote from: dads_69 on May 24, 2008, 07:02:17 PM
I've used Fram oil filters for over 25 years, no problems to report either about them. Once again, one guy gets a bad filter and like they say, bad news travels faster then good news.

I have to agree, Before I knew any better I ran fram on everything. Never had a problem. Now I run WIX only, can't find puro here. I just want to have the best, and its clear although its not catastrophically bad, fram is not the best
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dads_69

I never said Fram was the best. I have used Fram on daily drivers since high school. Starting in '82. Motors for track I used either factory Mopar or Wix. When we owned a new Dodge ram w/a 5.7 and 5.9... Dealer said they will only warranty motor if we used factory filter and not after market brand.
I use factory Ford oil filters for what wife and I drive now, Fram on whatever else I have thats not track driven.
I also run K/N air filters, some people call them engine killers as well, I say whatever to that theory as well.
My point is, I have yet to loose a motor due to oil filter or air filter brands.
Now I only hope I haven't jinxed myself!  :icon_smile_big:

Edit: Most importantly, what brand of motor oil do most of us use? I can read the headline now, if Fram made a motor oil, we'd all hear, Fram oil sucks...
remember the old saying, * Quaker State is the best*. Pennzoil sucks, then so on about others motor oil is the best......
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ACUDANUT

 I use fram on every Mopar I own. I Never had a problem.  I always was always told, WIX was JUNK.  :Twocents:

aifilaw

Quote from: dads_69 on May 25, 2008, 12:53:16 PM
Edit: Most importantly, what brand of motor oil do most of us use? I can read the headline now, if Fram made a motor oil, we'd all hear, Fram oil sucks...
remember the old saying, * Quaker State is the best*. Pennzoil sucks, then so on about others motor oil is the best......

I've seen the 3rd party and the chemical engineer full test and analysis on motor oils, and that is why I only use Rotella for all my conventional, and I used to use Mobil 1 for all my synthetics until they changed it up, now I use purple. Gotta do the additive on even the rotella though for a standard flat tappet hydraulic cam.
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