i believe this is the car we talked about on a different thread. no fender tag or build sheet . that really hurts the price on these cars . opening price a little high too .
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner-Superbird_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a10Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp4506Q2ec0Q2em245QQhashZitem4146108862QQitemZ280348362850QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucksQQsalenotsupported
Being that it's number matching drivetrain, with matching body numbers, I don't see the missing fender tag or build sheet as a problem. It's a documented VIN off the list too. The other thing is it's a common color, base engine with a column auto. So it's not like he's representing it as "something better" that you'd need more documentation to back up.
Looks like a decent car and a good opportunity to get in the game. Wonder if the rear window trim is there?
Same car as I described here May 16, 2009
Got a call on a Superbird today
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Got a call from a old friend today before even thinking about going ebay I suggested let me try it on our board .Asking what his superbird worth..Its a numbers matching FY1 bench column auto.Survivor shape interior .Driveline& front suspension has been rebuilt needs no metal work needed he said that all done already .I looked up the vin and last record of it was in 79.Only issue other than a better paint job he said it could use .Is that fender tag gone so is the buildsheet.It has a fiberglass nose.original hood and and everything else down to the door vin decal and quarter trunk lip numbers are there.And no scissors jack .Other then that and have recieved no pictures .Is the over the phone assement I got by asking all types of questions
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,57222.0.html
if the pictures are true , to whats wrong there looks like a simple easy project 50 k sound good ?
Quote from: moparstuart on May 22, 2009, 12:06:04 PM
if the pictures are true , to whats wrong there looks like a simple easy project 50 k sound good ?
The reserve isn't $50k, but for around this, I agree based on how prices are and have been up to 5 years ago, it's about right. Hell, I would trade my restored 70 Rt for it in a heart beat! :2thumbs: I've always wanted a bird, and hopefully one day will have one. Outside of Chargers, this is by far the coolest cars that mother Mopar produced! :cheers:
Looks like a bargain basement opportunity for someone to invest time and the talents to take the car to a next level .And use for later trading .If a daytona in this form shows up.We know Danny and Troy are looking to score a wingcar.Troy has one of these hes trying to sell.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-426-Hemi-1968-Dodge-Charger-Hemi_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a3Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem27a8a39949QQitemZ170333018441QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks
i agree at 50k it would be a decent deal but it's not 50k . it's US $55,000.00 Reserve not met
Shoot, that's in my backyard practically..........
Troy
Ive seen wingcars that had a real high reverse when it started off on ebay.And people got call weeks after the auction ended .And better offers
Quote from: hemi68charger on May 22, 2009, 01:28:43 PM
Shoot, that's in my backyard practically..........
Troy
That car is located in my old neighborhood. Well, sorta. Spring is a pretty big area. Ted Janek's neighborhood as well.
We're at least a year away from spending that kind of cash on a wing car so the timing isn't so hot for us.
I wonder what his reserve is? If it goes very much higher, then it's going to start getting semi-close to what a decent driver is going for.
What we're hoping for is to find something pretty rough with lots of parts missing. We have just about every part needed to build a nice car now. I could even cannibalize the 70 Satellite for body parts. ;D
i bought 2 mopars that way . i gave them an offer before the auction ended , CASH , and my phone # . sometimes it works
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The 50k Craigslist ad is gone. Ted says a relative posted the ad up early and jumped the gun. He's looking for a number in the mid 60's. 50k will not do it. Can't see it in the pics, but the rear window trim is there.
I missed the rad support stamping in my earlier post copied above. He says it's not there but the trunk stamping matches the dash.
It will never be a blue chip car, but is a good opportunity for someone to step up from a clone or standard B-body to get in the wing car game.
Did I miss something? Is this Ted's car?
Quote from: hotrod98 on May 22, 2009, 01:59:37 PM
Did I miss something? Is this Ted's car?
Yes, it's Ted's car.
I'll take a hot-air ballon and find his house................ :icon_smile_big:
Hope whoever took the above pic didn't fall.......... That's pretty high.
Just kidding...... I just emailed him inviting him over for a beer and/or iced tea in the garage....
i have a very nice real nose. It's green :smilielol:
Troy you want me to pm you his address
I've been by his house before, but I didn't recognize it in the photo. Thought I remembered more trees next to the driveway.
Teds car better than this
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,53593.0.html
Absolutely. Still out of my range though. :yesnod:
In order to be numbers matching, doesn't it need to have a fender tag? So what if the engine and trans match the fin. You cant document anything.
Quote from: C_stripes on May 22, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
In order to be numbers matching, doesn't it need to have a fender tag? So what if the engine and trans match the fin. You cant document anything.
The fender tag has nothing to do with being numbers matching. It would help to identify factory options but that's about it.
Troy
Quote from: Troy on May 23, 2009, 12:44:14 AM
Quote from: C_stripes on May 22, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
In order to be numbers matching, doesn't it need to have a fender tag? So what if the engine and trans match the fin. You cant document anything.
The fender tag has nothing to do with being numbers matching. It would help to identify factory options but that's about it.
Troy
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The stampings on the engine and tranny pad would match the body stampings and VIN sequence number.
This car seems to be one of the better deals available lately, but it's still not something I can afford. ::)
The last wing car that was affordable to me was a white Superbird Pete Veight was selling back around 1990. If I remember right, he was asking $17,000 & said he would probably take $15,000 for it. It was a clean, older resto that still looked really good. Not a top show car, but with some detailing it could be pretty nice & something fun. I had just bought my house & the timing chain in my Scamp went & took the rest of the motor with it. It was my daily driver & I had to wait for my tax return for money to fix it.
Bad timing for a wing car & a bad timing chain, hmm. :lol:
I recall that white bird came out of junkyard .That Pete rescued and did a nice restore on.Might be the one he added a sunroof to .If Im not mistaken
Quote from: nascarxx29 on May 23, 2009, 09:45:02 AM
I recall that white bird came out of junkyard .That Pete rescued and did a nice restore on.Might be the one he added a sunroof to .If Im not mistaken
Hey Dave, believe it or not, it was a different Superbird. :o
Pete's had so many wing cars I lost count.....lol Back then he had the green Daytona convertible & this white bird. I saw him a few years later with the sunroof car & asked if it was the same one. He told me no, he did sell the one I saw & the buyer flipped it for a couple of thousand more, but it took almost 2 years to do it. The junkyard bird with the sunroof was later on, & absolutely one hell of a job he did.
I know he has some .I got old pictures parked next to him at a old Englishtown with a white superbird with no added on sunroof
I think he sold the sunroof car to get hold of a Hemi Daytona. :shruggy: I would have loved to have been able to snag that one.
It's been a long time since I've seen Pete & talked to him, but as far as I know he currently has the same Daytona convertible & the Hemi Daytona, but I don't know if he's got any birds or others.
He currently has a white Hemi superbird and the playboy daytona and the daytona conv with a hemi in it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Plymouth-Road-Runner-Superbird_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a10Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp4506Q2ec0Q2em245QQhashZitem4146108862QQitemZ280348362850QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucksQQsalenotsupported
Troy should be going to see these wingcars and Meet Ted and see what he thought.I dont see any reason why it shouldnt sell .
anyone else want to buy it and spray it satin clear, or is it just me?
Quote from: pettybird on May 29, 2009, 09:50:05 AM
anyone else want to buy it and spray it satin clear, or is it just me?
That's taking preservation of patina to a whole new level. ;D