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Hey everyone. Sublime 70 started a thread over on the Charger discussion page about this build that I am just starting. The car is a 1970 Charger shell that I will be splicing on to a 2022 Hellcat Challenger. The Challenger has about 8,700 miles on it and looks like something big fell on the roof and they totaled it so it has a salvage title. Other wise it is a pretty nice car. The 70 Charger is someones sad tale of a restoration project gone on too long for the wallet. The owner cried uncle and tapped out after spending 6 figures on the car. The car was completely dismantled and had been media blasted and was ready to go back forward when the owner sold it to a friend of mine for a ridiculously low price. There was tons of stuff on the car that I did not need for this project and I left all that stuff with him to sell off. I basically only took what I needed which was the shell minus the hood. The car had been media blasted and epoxy primed so the dirty work of stripping it down was done and out of the way. Any way some here may not agree with some of the design choices the owner wanted for this build but it is his build and I will be trying to bring his vision to life. I built him a 1/25 scale model to help him visualize the build. He has already made some changes so it is not exactly what we will have in the end.
Any way here is the first video in the series and number 2 will be posted here today.       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xulmWpF5lfM&t=123s

No doubts it will spectacular in the end. :2thumbs:

Quote from: WINGIN IT on December 16, 2022, 04:14:24 PM
No doubts it will spectacular in the end. :2thumbs:

We shall see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rol4mbe5yAU

Some Pictures

 :2thumbs: :yesnod: :coolgleamA: :cheers: :popcrn:

I'm keeping an eye on this project.

Would a old 68-70 Charger Body fit better onto a newer Charger instead of a Challenger? LEON.

Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 18, 2022, 09:09:20 PM
Would a old 68-70 Charger Body fit better onto a newer Charger instead of a Challenger? LEON.

The only difference between the LX ( Dodge Charger, Magnum, Chrysler 300) and the LY (Challenger) platform is the wheel base. The floor pan of the Challenger is 4" shorter behind the front sears. The old Charger has a 117" wheel base. The new Charger has a 120" wheel base.  The Challenger is  116" . With that said my Daytona is on a modern Charger. It looks right because I lined up the rear wheels in the old Charger stock openings and lengthened the rear section of the front fender. Because the Daytona nose adds another 18" of length to the car it looks balanced. Without the nose you have to push the back wheels back 1 1/2" inches and move the fronts forward 1 1/2".  I doesn't look too bad but any one who looks at old Chargers a lot will notice something is off.

Thanks for that info, I was curious about the different wheelbases for each car. LEON.

Watching  :popcrn: :popcrn:

Subscribed!  :cheers: :popcrn:

Working on the Daytona decklid    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZYKBdzLY2A

the adaptive cruise active radar camera is in / behind the lower grille in the bumper   

AMAZING work Steve!  :2thumbs:

I look forward to your Friday updates!  :popcrn:

Quote from: moparstuart on December 27, 2022, 11:06:16 AM
the adaptive cruise active radar camera is in / behind the lower grille in the bumper   

Thanks Stu. That means I will probably be able to keep that option.

Quote from: mopar4don on December 27, 2022, 01:42:16 PM
AMAZING work Steve!  :2thumbs:

I look forward to your Friday updates!  :popcrn:

Thanks again Don. I hope it doesn't get to repetitive in the future.

Wife's... to show the adaptive cruise sensor

Quote from: birdsandbees on December 28, 2022, 08:07:36 PM
Wife's... to show the adaptive cruise sensor

Nothing like that on this car. The only thing behind the grill either upper or lower is the outside temperature sensor. Hell this might not have that option after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7tZXlJ-KWs Some custom tail light fabrication.

Good day sir,

You're doing amazing work!!! As well as opening my eyes to new ways of shaping metal!! Thank you!!

What brand of shrinker/stretcher is that? And were would a person get one?


Curt

Quote from: panhead on December 30, 2022, 08:09:39 PM
Good day sir,

You're doing amazing work!!! As well as opening my eyes to new ways of shaping metal!! Thank you!!

What brand of shrinker/stretcher is that? And were would a person get one?


Curt

Thanks. That is an Eckold shrinker/stretcher or hand former as they may be called. I am not sure where they are sold because I bought mine second hand. They are pretty pricey. I got this one cheap years ago for $1,500.00 At that time they listed for $3,500.00 You can get a decent machine with deep jaws from Eastwood for about $400.00. The big deal with the Eckold is that it has round jaws as opposed to the squared off jaws of most less expensive setups. If I did not get it so cheap I don't know that I would even have one. Great machine.

Great work Steve as always!
Those Eckolds appear to have more bite radius than the standard square jaws everybody carries.

Quote from: DonC1 on January 02, 2023, 12:34:03 AM
Great work Steve as always!
Those Eckolds appear to have more bite radius than the standard square jaws everybody carries.

Thanks and you certainly would know Don. While working for Hendrick Motorsports I really got spoiled . We had an Ekold 4 way power shrinker. You could address the center of a panel with one of those about 20" in. If you were not careful and had the jaws adjusted too much before you turned it on you would instantly cobble up your work before you got it shut down. If you wanted to just sweeten something up you had been working on for a while you had better get another guy to help gradually tighten or loosen the wheel as you worked the panel or you could ruin your efforts.

https://youtu.be/thmnACk3fCg More work on the tail panel.

looking great Steve, its all those time consuming little things that make it a great build, I know I repeat myself but, your craftmanship is off the charts, I am SO impressed with your abilities , looking forward to the next update.

Quote from: cdr on January 06, 2023, 11:12:03 PM
looking great Steve, its all those time consuming little things that make it a great build, I know I repeat myself but, your craftmanship is off the charts, I am SO impressed with your abilities , looking forward to the next update.

Only wished we lived closer Charlie. I would love to help out on ol Brain Damage.

Quote from: Stevearino on January 07, 2023, 04:55:58 PM

Quote from: cdr on January 06, 2023, 11:12:03 PM
looking great Steve, its all those time consuming little things that make it a great build, I know I repeat myself but, your craftmanship is off the charts, I am SO impressed with your abilities , looking forward to the next update.

Only wished we lived closer Charlie. I would love to help out on ol Brain Damage.

I sure wish we did, ,, Thank you Steve !!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk6DPLU09v4

  :2thumbs: :coolgleamA: :popcrn:

"No doubts it will spectacular in the end."
maybe use the word (be).

Quote from: ACUDANUT on January 14, 2023, 02:31:28 PM
"No doubts it will spectacular in the end."
maybe use the word (be).

We shall see. Unlike my own projects I am not in complete control of this outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WymMdRp9AyE Finishing up the custom rear facia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXzbV1IsSWQ Short week.

nice work  , i must have missed it somewhere , but why are you using a Superbird wing  ? 

Quote from: moparstuart on February 01, 2023, 12:28:19 PM
nice work  , i must have missed it somewhere , but why are you using a Superbird wing  ? 

It is something that the owner wants .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw1ADjKAstA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly5uWDIBFeA Window engineering.

A Charger, or Challenger ? It can't be both...Crack Idea IMO.

It's half & half :scratchchin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjVvl3vjBYs  More window work.Randy 11.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgtmsXBxvmE

 :o   clever stuff  :cheers:  :popcrn:

Quote from: tan top on February 27, 2023, 02:24:56 PM:o   clever stuff  :cheers:  :popcrn:

Thanks TanTop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56JRLmqbMMY  Fixed Quarter window installation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n4uf5N7SoI  So I finally get around to building the rear window plug,

Amazing work sir!!


Curt

Quote from: panhead on March 11, 2023, 06:38:10 PMAmazing work sir!!


Curt

Thanks Curt

Where did you end up getting a rear window from Steve?

Quote from: Moparmatty on March 15, 2023, 08:01:18 AMWhere did you end up getting a rear window from Steve?

I found a guy who had multiple spares and he was willing to part with one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Keyv5Xw28Cw Building the windshield bed.Randy 15.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBFnhnLYMMARandy 16.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgEovkXSDURandy 17.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpstw88PyYwRandy 18.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfMsf3h5VgURandy 19.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKpDSLQ5JMARandy 20.jpg

 Good day,
Any updates?

Curt

https://youtu.be/swT7oE6BwoY

https://youtu.be/hxzxKLdoT3s

https://youtu.be/42go-WtTPI8

https://youtu.be/IUyg9bS8cng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opiUWMiskS4Randy 21.jpgRandy 22.jpgRandy 24.jpg   

Good day sir,
 
It's coming along quite nicely.  :2thumbs:

Curt

NICE :2thumbs:

Quote from: panhead on May 28, 2023, 03:06:48 PMGood day sir,
 
It's coming along quite nicely.  :2thumbs:

Curt

Thanks Panhead

Quote from: hemi-hampton on May 28, 2023, 03:36:27 PMNICE :2thumbs:

Thanks Hemi-Hampton



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AqddiD4iA4Randy 26.jpg

Amazing work. :cheers:

Quote from: Bob on June 03, 2023, 04:16:20 AMAmazing work. :cheers:

Thank you Bob.

been watching all your videos & pictures , clever stuff !  awesome job  :yesnod:  :cheers:  :cheers:  :coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :popcrn:

Quote from: tan top on June 04, 2023, 06:08:47 PMbeen watching all your videos & pictures , clever stuff !  awesome job  :yesnod:  :cheers:  :cheers:  :coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :popcrn:

Thanks Tan Top.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XZ_S7nNqDERandy 27.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqjN_c46CmY  Work continues on the cowl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=996pq8yD-fc This video covers the installation of the Hellcat dash into the 70 Charger.Randy 29.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYrH1-o9NTc Finishing up the top dash.Randy 30.jpg

Amazing work!!
Always looking forward to the next update  :yesnod:

Curt

Quote from: panhead on July 05, 2023, 09:30:32 AMAmazing work!!
Always looking forward to the next update  :yesnod:

Curt

 :iagree:  :yesnod:  :popcrn:  :2thumbs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UvTmTJGX3oRandy 31.jpg

Quote from: tan top on July 06, 2023, 10:34:56 AM

Quote from: panhead on July 05, 2023, 09:30:32 AMAmazing work!!
Always looking forward to the next update  :yesnod:

Curt

 :iagree:  :yesnod:  :popcrn:  :2thumbs:

Thanks Panhead Thanks Tan Top. I had to step away for a week. Hopefully I will have an update this Friday. It is slow going right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a84n9FaHXlcRandy 32.jpg

clever  :yesnod:  :2thumbs:  :coolgleamA:  :popcrn:

Quote from: tan top on July 27, 2023, 05:03:41 PMclever  :yesnod:  :2thumbs:  :coolgleamA:  :popcrn:

I agree !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2XXBb-lAjcRandy 33.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4qDeZoyQr0 ;a quick updateRandy 34.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1W_XEbG__ERandy 35.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SxJxaxjLf4Randy 36.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgjlqL-I980Randy 37.jpg

 :coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :popcrn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3asV4X8YaroRandy 38.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hpug9SPPxQRandy 39.jpgRandy 39.jpg 

Quote from: tan top on September 03, 2023, 03:26:57 AM:coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :popcrn:

I totally agree!!!

Your front end reminds me of the Alexander Brothers Basket Weave method I think they called it. LEON.

Quote from: panhead on September 15, 2023, 07:42:15 PM

Quote from: tan top on September 03, 2023, 03:26:57 AM:coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :popcrn:

I totally agree!!!

Thanks Panhead

Quote from: hemi-hampton on September 16, 2023, 11:54:56 AMYour front end reminds me of the Alexander Brothers Basket Weave method I think they called it. LEON.

Your front end reminds me of the Alexander Brothers Basket Weave method I think they called it. LEON.
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What ever works in a pinch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s1XeNIdgUsRandy 40.jpg

In the past I've welded a bead along the edge of quarter to get rid of that rounded edge on the aftermarket quarters. bondo will crack to easily there. Leon.

Quote from: hemi-hampton on September 23, 2023, 12:37:52 AMIn the past I've welded a bead along the edge of quarter to get rid of that rounded edge on the aftermarket quarters. bondo will crack to easily there. Leon.

I agree. That needs to be a metal edge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIPsAxLpmB0Randy 41.jpg

I can't even imagine what kind of coin your customers drop on such builds. I sure it's probably not enough as your skills are beyond incredible.
That being said, I want a 69 Charger built on a straight up 5.7 R/T but I'm sure i can't afford it ;)

If I win the upcoming Power Ball Lottery nearing $1 billion I'll have you build me a Car. Money will be no option. Leon. :icon_smile_big:

Quote from: HANDM on September 29, 2023, 10:44:34 PMI can't even imagine what kind of coin your customers drop on such builds. I sure it's probably not enough as your skills are beyond incredible.
That being said, I want a 69 Charger built on a straight up 5.7 R/T but I'm sure i can't afford it ;)

Well if you go to my youtube channel the build I did before this one was a Yellow 1968 Charger that I put on a 2011 Scat Pack Challenger. It was as stock appearing as I could get it considering the owner wanted to keep the SRT wheels and tires. Other than that we used pretty much stock stuff. It ended up costing him about $150,000.00 by the time we were done. That was his cost on the purchase of both cars, all the new sheetmetal, glass,trim you name it. It was practically a brand new 68 by the time we were done. That was me moving as fast as I could because he was on a budget. We pretty much doubled what he intended to spend but as you know that is a familiar story. Took me 11 months straight to complete and there are 45 episodes. If you are curious my channel is Steve Mirabelli and the series is " Don's 68 Charger body swap"

Quote from: hemi-hampton on September 29, 2023, 11:10:32 PMIf I win the upcoming Power Ball Lottery nearing $1 billion I'll have you build me a Car. Money will be no option. Leon. :icon_smile_big:

We can keep our fingers crossed and hope.  :cheers:

$150k Sounds cheap for all the work involved. Leon.

Quote from: hemi-hampton on October 03, 2023, 08:18:00 PM$150k Sounds cheap for all the work involved. Leon.

Well let's just say my rate for these projects is about 1/3rd of what most shops doing this kind of work charge. I was talking to my glass guy while he installed the windshield on my last project and he told me about a Daytona project being worked on over at Detroit Speed which is now owned by Holly. He said the project was already up to $800,000.00. That is not hard to do when the shop rate is north of $120.00 an hour. Some are charging $160.00  My Daytona took me 1800 hours to complete including body and paint. I will let you do the math.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua7KGxESK0Randy 42.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPMBs7OXH8ERandy 43.jpg

Good day sir,

 I always look forward to watching your videos!!  It's great that you're taking the time to explain what's going on.  I've learned a lot from watching and now I look at things in a different prospective.

Thank you!

Curt

Quote from: panhead on October 16, 2023, 08:18:58 PMGood day sir,

 I always look forward to watching your videos!!  It's great that you're taking the time to explain what's going on.  I've learned a lot from watching and now I look at things in a different prospective.

Thank you!

Curt

Thanks Curt  I am glad the videos are helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN7aC8HrJ6YRandy 44.jpg

:2thumbs: That's some Amazing work :yesnod:

Curt

Quote from: panhead on October 20, 2023, 07:20:58 PM:2thumbs: That's some Amazing work :yesnod:

Curt

I see you are from Kansas. I know it is a big state but the donor 1970 Charger body came from there. Kind of a sad story for the former owner but the car was in a million pieces. It was a restoration that the guy had to cry uncle on. He was into it for 6 figures and had enough of the project. He sold it at an 80% loss to the guy I bought it from. I only needed the main structure so we did a deal where he kept most of the components for resale including the power train. Also it is going back to Kansas, Whichita exactly for paint and body work and final re assembly when I am done with it. Lots of Mopar action in Kansas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsSYU_mnrSYRandy 45.jpgRandy 45.jpg 

Quote from: Stevearino on October 21, 2023, 03:30:46 PM

Quote from: panhead on October 20, 2023, 07:20:58 PM:2thumbs: That's some Amazing work :yesnod:

Curt

I see you are from Kansas. I know it is a big state but the donor 1970 Charger body came from there. Kind of a sad story for the former owner but the car was in a million pieces. It was a restoration that the guy had to cry uncle on. He was into it for 6 figures and had enough of the project. He sold it at an 80% loss to the guy I bought it from. I only needed the main structure so we did a deal where he kept most of the components for resale including the power train. Also it is going back to Kansas, Whichita exactly for paint and body work and final re assembly when I am done with it. Lots of Mopar action in Kansas.

WE LOVE mOPARS HERE IN KANSAS  :) 

 :scope:   :coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :popcrn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6JSE0t5_8wRandy 46.jpg

Quote from: tan top on October 30, 2023, 02:36:36 PM:scope:  :coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :popcrn:

What he said!!!

Curt

The amount of work going on here is mind boggling.
Very nice work by someone way smarter than me.
Well, that's not saying much.  :icon_smile_big:

Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on November 04, 2023, 12:51:40 AMThe amount of work going on here is mind boggling.
Very nice work by someone way smarter than me.
Well, that's not saying much.  :icon_smile_big:

Don't sell yourself short Kurt. Unlike most of the projects posted here I am not dealing with the drive train, suspension, electrical and all of that other necessary goble de gook with a restoration or standard resto mod. I am concentrating on the decoration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Tt5N7KtgERandy 47.jpg

Quote from: moparstuart on October 30, 2023, 09:54:51 AM

Quote from: Stevearino on October 21, 2023, 03:30:46 PM

Quote from: panhead on October 20, 2023, 07:20:58 PM:2thumbs: That's some Amazing work :yesnod:

Curt

I see you are from Kansas. I know it is a big state but the donor 1970 Charger body came from there. Kind of a sad story for the former owner but the car was in a million pieces. It was a restoration that the guy had to cry uncle on. He was into it for 6 figures and had enough of the project. He sold it at an 80% loss to the guy I bought it from. I only needed the main structure so we did a deal where he kept most of the components for resale including the power train. Also it is going back to Kansas, Whichita exactly for paint and body work and final re assembly when I am done with it. Lots of Mopar action in Kansas.

WE LOVE mOPARS HERE IN KANSAS  :) 

 
We do have a few hidden gems. And I would wager there's quite a few in North Carolina as well.
I really enjoy your videos and learning quite a bit!
Thank you sir!

Curt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvDbAVQUXGgRandy 48.jpg

 :coolgleamA:  :2thumbs:  :cheers:  :popcrn:

All coming together and looking amazing Steve. How many hours in it now...

Quote from: birdsandbees on November 21, 2023, 11:52:12 AMAll coming together and looking amazing Steve. How many hours in it now...

Coming up on 1,400 hours so far.My car took 1,800 to finish. I am doing a lot more modification to this car and I won't be doing the paint work so not sure where it will end up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akcRgnAmG0ERandy 49.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXggYBXvr0IRandy 50.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2wMzhiouTI

Coming along super nice!!!  :yesnod:

Hopefully you get to feeling better soon.

Curt

Quote from: panhead on December 15, 2023, 08:22:34 PMComing along super nice!!!  :yesnod:

Hopefully you get to feeling better soon.

Curt

Thanks Curt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehfY_lDRtgRandy 52.jpg

Some amazing stuff going on there that's for sure!  :yesnod:
I also like your special tools that you made. 

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

Curt

Quote from: Stevearino on December 22, 2023, 04:52:47 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehfY_lDRtgRandy 52.jpg

Steve you got some patience, awesome work ! clever stuff  :scope:  :bow:   :yesnod:  :cheers:

Quote from: panhead on December 22, 2023, 08:48:29 PMSome amazing stuff going on there that's for sure!  :yesnod:
I also like your special tools that you made. 

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

Curt

:iagree:


 :2thumbs:  :coolgleamA:  :cheers:

Quote from: panhead on December 22, 2023, 08:48:29 PMSome amazing stuff going on there that's for sure!  :yesnod:
I also like your special tools that you made. 

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

Curt

Thanks Tan Top and Pan Head. Have a Merry Christmas too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K89bkU-qrJs

Thank you for my weekly fix.  :2thumbs:

Curt

Quote from: panhead on December 29, 2023, 05:38:58 PMThank you for my weekly fix.  :2thumbs:

Curt

It may be getting a little weak here soon as I have to rinse and repeat the last 3 weeks on the passenger side so just short updates over the next month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRIoyht3qlgRandy 54.jpg

 :popcrn:  :2thumbs:  :coolgleamA:

It's Friday! That means its time for an update from Steve!  :2thumbs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PadWa_WL2HURandy 55.jpgRandy 55.jpg 

Looks better than the carbon fiber copy cats being put out by that one company. Charger roof looks more better than their modified Challenger roof.

Quote from: JB400 on January 16, 2024, 01:25:27 AMLooks better than the carbon fiber copy cats being put out by that one company. Charger roof looks more better than their modified Challenger roof.

I have seen those things up close and for $400,000.00 I would want it to look better that is for sure.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmjhG1K9m5cRandy 56.jpg

Quote from: mopar4don on January 12, 2024, 07:16:56 AMIt's Friday! That means its time for an update from Steve!  :2thumbs:

Yes sir, what he said!! :yesnod:

Curt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoIdRPLWyIwRandy 57.jpg

Looking good!!!

Thanks for the hose clamp trick!! That's pretty clever   :2thumbs:

Curt

Quote from: panhead on January 26, 2024, 04:45:59 PMLooking good!!!

Thanks for the hose clamp trick!! That's pretty clever   :2thumbs:

Curt

There is a bunch of stupid stuff like that up in the old skull. Might as well pass it on. Might be helpful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyZItNFSYFoRandy 58.jpgRandy 58.jpg 

:2thumbs:  :coolgleamA:  :cheers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ6Wbq9DIWA

 I totally understand the going backwards thing.

 I did a lot of that building my Daytona replica.
 It's still looking good  :2thumbs:

Curt

Quote from: panhead on February 09, 2024, 08:59:28 PMI totally understand the going backwards thing.

 I did a lot of that building my Daytona replica.
 It's still looking good  :2thumbs:

Curt

I was looking forward to a week of just bolting up finished work only to have to rework a bunch of stuff I did almost a year ago. That is what makes me laugh when I get the over the top comments on youtube about my genius fabrication skills.  :lol: If they only knew.

Always the way right? 1 step forward 2 steps back.
We've all been there many times. But your dedication is admirable.

So does that mean you are going to have to edit the videos from a year ago too?  :smilielol:

Quote from: Stevearino on February 11, 2024, 09:13:39 AM

Quote from: panhead on February 09, 2024, 08:59:28 PMI totally understand the going backwards thing.

 I did a lot of that building my Daytona replica.
 It's still looking good  :2thumbs:

Curt

Quote from: WINGIN IT on February 11, 2024, 11:56:13 AMAlways the way right? 1 step forward 2 steps back.
We've all been there many times. But your dedication is admirable.

So does that mean you are going to have to edit the videos from a year ago too?  :smilielol:

I was looking forward to a week of just bolting up finished work only to have to rework a bunch of stuff I did almost a year ago. That is what makes me laugh when I get the over the top comments on youtube about my genius fabrication skills.  :lol: If they only knew.

:lol:  bummer on the gap ! but we all know how it goes  :rotz:  , best to do it now than later or especially  thinking it wont notice much  when its painted or it will be ok , no it wont trust me will drive ya crazy till its perfect or as good as it can be other wise your never be happy with it ,
try explaining panel gaps or body filler & panel shapes  to those who are not into this stuff & they say cant see what your talking about a lot of the time,  & look at ya as if your crazy about re working the panel or again  :lol:

  one step forward  two back or even three back because you have had a better idea  :yesnod:

clever stuff & time consuming as always body stuff  :yesnod:

:cheers:  :2thumbs:  :coolgleamA:  :popcrn:

Quote from: WINGIN IT on February 11, 2024, 11:56:13 AMAlways the way right? 1 step forward 2 steps back.
We've all been there many times. But your dedication is admirable.

So does that mean you are going to have to edit the videos from a year ago too?  :smilielol:

No need. Checking my analytics for the channel nobody is watching them anyways :rofl:

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Quote from: Stevearino on February 11, 2024, 09:13:39 AM

Quote from: panhead on February 09, 2024, 08:59:28 PMI totally understand the going backwards thing.

 I did a lot of that building my Daytona replica.
 It's still looking good  :2thumbs:

Curt

Quote from: WINGIN IT on February 11, 2024, 11:56:13 AMAlways the way right? 1 step forward 2 steps back.
We've all been there many times. But your dedication is admirable.

So does that mean you are going to have to edit the videos from a year ago too?  :smilielol:

I was looking forward to a week of just bolting up finished work only to have to rework a bunch of stuff I did almost a year ago. That is what makes me laugh when I get the over the top comments on youtube about my genius fabrication skills.  :lol: If they only knew.

:lol:  bummer on the gap ! but we all know how it goes  :rotz:  , best to do it now than later or especially  thinking it wont notice much  when its painted or it will be ok , no it wont trust me will drive ya crazy till its perfect or as good as it can be other wise your never be happy with it ,
try explaining panel gaps or body filler & panel shapes  to those who are not into this stuff & they say cant see what your talking about a lot of the time,  & look at ya as if your crazy about re working the panel or again  :lol:

  one step forward  two back or even three back because you have had a better idea  :yesnod:

clever stuff & time consuming as always body stuff  :yesnod:

:cheers:  :2thumbs:  :coolgleamA:  :popcrn:

The customer on this car is really patient and really wants everything to be right. I am trying to not cost him extra money due to oversights on my part but this is all custom work and there is bound to be more than a few hiccups along the way. Even knowing all that it can wear you out cutting into what you thought was finished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhC9ATcES0URandy 60.jpg

I like the look, it turned out real nice!!  :2thumbs:

Curt

Nothing like a gal with hips !  :icon_smile_big:

Quote from: panhead on February 16, 2024, 05:55:19 PMI like the look, it turned out real nice!!  :2thumbs:

Curt

Thanks. I had hoped it would not look goofy.

Quote from: birdsandbees on February 16, 2024, 07:05:54 PMNothing like a gal with hips !  :icon_smile_big:

As do I.

With point being to get rid of as much evidence of the original Challenger base, as much as possible, I'm thinking the 11-14 Charger taillights would have been a better choice.

Given Dodge's decision to use bcm's to control lighting, it's probably a requirement to use the Challenger taillights, which do look good. It'd probably be a nightmare to integrate the 11-14 Charger taillights.

Quote from: JB400 on February 17, 2024, 01:17:17 PMWith point being to get rid of as much evidence of the original Challenger base, as much as possible, I'm thinking the 11-14 Charger taillights would have been a better choice.

Given Dodge's decision to use bcm's to control lighting, it's probably a requirement to use the Challenger taillights, which do look good. It'd probably be a nightmare to integrate the 11-14 Charger taillights.

My last build was a 68 Charger on a 2011 392 Challenger. Swapping the tail lights to original 68 housings was easy peasy. Not a chance of that happening with this 2022 Hellcat. That is way beyond my skill level. Not my car so not my call so I am trying to make it work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOWoyPeh9cgRandy 61.jpg

Good day,

 That trimmed out really well. :2thumbs:  And yes, any little bit you can gain in the opening of the trunk makes a
 big difference for sure.

Curt

Quote from: panhead on February 25, 2024, 01:34:58 PMGood day,

 That trimmed out really well. :2thumbs:  And yes, any little bit you can gain in the opening of the trunk makes a
 big difference for sure.

Curt

Thanks Curt



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV_PXpc7qDw

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The best way to deal with rust like that under the hood is to use Oxalic Acid. And Blasting would likely warp it. if worried about warpage use the Oxalic. Oxalic will get down into the pits. Leon.

Quote from: hemi-hampton on March 02, 2024, 12:30:38 AMThe best way to deal with rust like that under the hood is to use Oxalic Acid. And Blasting would likely warp it. if worried about warpage use the Oxalic. Oxalic will get down into the pits. Leon.

I am using Ospho right now. Don't believe I have heard of using Oxlalic Acid. Have to look into it.
Thanks.

Hear is a pic of a old rusty can. entire can was 100% rust & unreadable. I dipped only half the can in acid to reveal what it was. a IGA lemon lime soda. Did half so you could see before & after pics. Leon.
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Quote from: hemi-hampton on March 05, 2024, 09:19:52 PMHear is a pic of a old rusty can. entire can was 100% rust & unreadable. I dipped only half the can in acid to reveal what it was. a IGA lemon lime soda. Did half so you could see before & after pics. Leon.
HalfHalf3.JPG

Well that is certainly impressive results. Looks like a winner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4kWUn3MUCoRandy 63.jpg

Good day,
 I really like how this hood is turning out. Just fantastic work!  :2thumbs:

Curt 

Quote from: panhead on March 08, 2024, 08:01:24 PMGood day,
 I really like how this hood is turning out. Just fantastic work!  :2thumbs:

Curt 

Everything is fantastic work!

Quote from: panhead on March 08, 2024, 08:01:24 PMGood day,
 I really like how this hood is turning out. Just fantastic work!  :2thumbs:

Curt 

Thanks Curt.

Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on March 09, 2024, 12:14:48 AM

Quote from: panhead on March 08, 2024, 08:01:24 PMGood day,
 I really like how this hood is turning out. Just fantastic work!  :2thumbs:

Curt 

Everything is fantastic work!

Thanks Kurt

Too many C / Kurt's going on here.  :icon_smile_big: 

Amazing work. When I go out and look at my project it makes me realize how talented and knowledge you are. I am trying to learn more about body work but its a lot harder to find someone that wants to work on an old car. Most places close to me just want to do spot work or paint a fender.

Quote from: farm966 on March 14, 2024, 12:57:24 PMAmazing work. When I go out and look at my project it makes me realize how talented and knowledge you are. I am trying to learn more about body work but its a lot harder to find someone that wants to work on an old car. Most places close to me just want to do spot work or paint a fender.

I get that. I have had to learn a bunch of trades over the years because nobody wants to do anything anymore;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7TyfIQ9_Rc&t=10sRandy 64.jpg

How big is your pile of metal in the corner of ooops that did not work need to start again on a new piece ?

Quote from: 70 sublime on March 15, 2024, 11:28:39 PMHow big is your pile of metal in the corner of ooops that did not work need to start again on a new piece ?

Fortunately metal is not like wood in that you can add a little if you miscalculate and you can reshape things if you mess up by shrinking it or stretching it like putty. With that said if have had my share of mishaps that could not be saved. Hopefully this won't be one of them.

Good day,

 What gauge is that nose cone?

 Curt

Quote from: panhead on March 21, 2024, 11:26:10 AMGood day,

 What gauge is that nose cone?

 Curt

18 Gauge or .045"




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR3zFYnaC8w


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Good day,

 I really enjoy following your thread. I learn something new every week.
 Thank you for taking the time to show and explain things. I like the concept of the buck. I used a fiberglass
 nose cone as a template to build mine and it too is 18 gauge. It's pretty mean stuff.

Curt     

Quote from: panhead on March 22, 2024, 07:15:47 PMGood day,

 I really enjoy following your thread. I learn something new every week.
 Thank you for taking the time to show and explain things. I like the concept of the buck. I used a fiberglass
 nose cone as a template to build mine and it too is 18 gauge. It's pretty mean stuff.

Curt     

Glad you are getting something out of it. That makes it worth the effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyhbVp_N1EY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQuYp8vkRGMRandy 67 b.jpgRandy 67 b.jpg 

Good day

 Your nose is turning out quite nice! That's a lot of hard work for sure!  :2thumbs:

 Curt

Quote from: panhead on April 05, 2024, 07:47:32 PMGood day

 Your nose is turning out quite nice! That's a lot of hard work for sure!  :2thumbs:

 Curt

Thanks Curt

https://youtu.be/3Gbjt1JzZ7k?si=qTfNsiBsxZj15xRORandy 68.jpg

Ive been on here for over 22 years and this build by far exceeds all others I have seen posted. Awesome metal work.

Can't wait to see the finished product.
Great work.

Quote from: Bob on April 14, 2024, 04:42:54 AMIve been on here for over 22 years and this build by far exceeds all others I have seen posted. Awesome metal work.

Can't wait to see the finished product.
Great work.

Thanks for the compliment. Unfortunately I won't be doing the body and paint work so there might not be any completely finished car to see long after I hand it off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_gQmMMVLoRandy 69.jpg

QuoteThe only difference between the LX ( Dodge Charger, Magnum, Chrysler 300) and the LY (Challenger) platform is the wheel base. The floor pan of the Challenger is 4" shorter behind the front sears

As someone who used to make the floor pans for these cars, I can confirm! lol

Quote from: CFMopar on April 23, 2024, 02:46:00 PM

QuoteThe only difference between the LX ( Dodge Charger, Magnum, Chrysler 300) and the LY (Challenger) platform is the wheel base. The floor pan of the Challenger is 4" shorter behind the front sears

As someone who used to make the floor pans for these cars, I can confirm! lol

Thanks for the confirmation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUdKlEkN9jURandy 70.jpg