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74 Charger SE 318 barn Find

Started by tmorford, October 14, 2020, 04:37:52 AM

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tmorford

Hey all, I am new to the restoration thing and I am sure I will make a lot of mistakes but I don't want to start off with any haha. I just bought a 74 Charger SE the owner is out of town and said it ran last winter for a little while, but the last time it was really driven was 2017. The car looks clean but I could not get in to it because the door locks where seized up so I low balled him and he took it. Now with all that being said I have not started it yet I plan on dragging it on a car hauler or a tow dolly but I live 45 minutes away. Before I start this up what should I check or change or do so I do not damage anything? I have always have been able to do basic repairs on vehicles and this is my first real restoration project so wish me luck! I will try to start a thread and show everything I am doing.

XH29N0G

Welcome to the forum.  :cheers:

If you know the previous owner I would also check with him.  It might be practically ready to go and able to run through things like oil and old gas, but if it were me, I would want to check those, and to be safe, change, those and many of the the fluids.  I would also look over the wires in the engine bay and under the dash to make sure there was not a chance for a short.  I would check things like the hoses/lines/cables/bushings for fuel and brake and suspension.  Before driving, probably even hauling on its own wheels, I would check the tires and the date codes on the tires.     I am sure others will have more to add  and may clarify if some checks aren't needed. 

I would also acquire a faculty service manual.  That will also have information on service.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

70 sublime

Welcome to the forum.   :2thumbs:

Think the first thing to do would be get the door open some how so you can get the car out of park so it will roll if brakes are not stuck

If it was running last winter I would just get a battery in it and pour some fresh gas down the carb to see if it would start

Your low ball might be him just glad to get rid of it because it smokes so bad when it last ran
Just hope for the best is all you can do now
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

tmorford

Thanks all, the last owner is all sunshine and lollipops about it, ran great last time I started and drove it. He lives out of state now and I met his father over at the car. I will siphon out the gas and add new ethanol free gas, I hope the brakes are good to get on a tow dolly or carrier. Oh question about a tow dolly I hear you can not tow a rear wheel drive car as it will kill the transmission as my only choice to get a flatbed or a carrier to get it out?

I bought a battery today going to bring it, I also picked up a slimjim to hopefully get the door open, anything else I should be worried about getting it on a trailer?

70 sublime

As long as all the tires have air in them you should be good to get it on a trailer
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

AKcharger

Welcome Tmorford, I hope you'll find you membership to the forum buth challanguing and rewarding!

What everyone said is spot on. my two cents:
- Shoot some starting fluid down the carb, if it coughs and runs for a second or two you know you have good spark and compression so should run...if nothing don't waste you time, just get it on the dolly/trailer
-  If using a town dolly remove drive shaft, a 45 min drive in neutral will destroy your transmission
- Most important, EXPECT EVERYTHING TO GO WRONG and plan acordingly 1) tires flat, how to air them up 2) will not start how do I get it on dolly...That try of stuff

Once home drain fuel, do oil change and add a zinc additive!!!!!!

keep us posted



tmorford

Tires look good, I will bring air just in case. I have a battery and starter fluid, and a gas can with non ethanol 94 gas. I rented a trailer from uhaul so I hope that will work!

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tmorford

Thank you all for welcoming me! So this is the charger, I am going to try to pick it up this weekend.

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1974/dodge/charger/101343424

ACUDANUT

Green on green. Yuck. That 8 1/4 rear end can't be a sure grip.  :Twocents:

tmorford

Yeah I hate to color ... not sure which color I am going to end up with, my wife wants red with the black vinal top.

Nacho-RT74

welcome!

I have to say, this doesn't look good on the K member!

unless some optical ilusion, it seems like it got rust pinholes ?

fortunatelly thats a piece can be changed, and being Small block you could upgrade ( if wished ) to big block K member ( that thing changes between SB and BB since 73 )




Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

tmorford

The color or the car in general?

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: tmorford on October 16, 2020, 03:41:23 PM
The color or the car in general?

sorry, edited my previous coment showing what I meant... pressed the POST button accidentally

what is very interesting is the 3rd member! 9 1/4" being small block! amazing!!!




Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

tmorford

Ahh got you, yes I had not noticed that, thank you, I dont know if its a numbers matching car yet, and I am not sure if I care. I dont plan on selling it so if I have to replace it I will definitely go with a BB one and possibly a 440 to go with it, the car is originally from California so it should be relatively rust free other then surface rust ... I hope haha

AKcharger

If I may suggest...If the body is stright or only needs minor dents and dings have it wrapped in red! does a few things

1) looks almost PERFECT overnight with much less effort than paint (need to pull trim and bumpers but do it yourslef and save $$
2) makes Mrs happy
3 Most important gove you MOMENTUM...You FEEL like project is moving along and keeps you motivated. once you have time and $$$ to paint it right, peel wrap off

tmorford

I like this idea, I will have to find someone that wraps vehicles around my area!

Thank you!

70 sublime

Quote from: tmorford on October 16, 2020, 06:06:34 AM
Thank you all for welcoming me! So this is the charger, I am going to try to pick it up this weekend.

https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars/1974/dodge/charger/101343424

Umm I hope your low ball offer was around the $4K mark
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

70 sublime

I have had a couple 73 Chargers
Looks like you will need to change the rubber around the 4 bolts that hold the K frame to the car

Not sure what that big battery switch is doing on the edge of the dash in picture #6
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

tmorford

It was less then that ... why do you say that? Do you see a lot wrong? I plan on doing a lot of work on it so its ok.

70 sublime

Well then you should be in good shape
It does not look rotted out but the interior needs lots of help
Dash is all split my guess why the green covering over it
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

tmorford

I plan on getting a complete suspension kit and replace all the rubber under the car, shocks, leaf springs tie rods, ball joints etc...  

I am ready for the interior I already looked into upholstery person to change the geen to black and replace the vinyl top its got some damage to it.

70 sublime

Try to get it running and only do what you have to do to drive it on the road the way it is

If you start taking things all apart one thing leads to another then before you know it it is in 1000 pieces and 3 or 4 years later still not able to drive it

Get a few miles on it as a green car then make a plan what you want to do with it

Then try to do a piece or section at a time with out totally killing the car

Many cars on this forum are all apart for many years and the owners have never driven them yet

My  :Twocents:
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

tmorford

Thank you, winters in upstate NY are cold hard and long and I have a big garage, I plan on doing a section each winter, this winter I was planning suspension. But I will drive it a bit first this fall see what really needs work haha

Thank you again for your advice.

AKcharger

Quote from: 70 sublime on October 16, 2020, 08:07:53 PM

Then try to do a piece or section at a time with out totally killing the car

Many cars on this forum are all apart for many years and the owners have never driven them yet

My  :Twocents:

Sage advice right there!!!

As for top and seats you can do them, its not hard, and you'll find all the help you need here. You'll have two choices 1) pay a GOOD restoration shop a LOT of money or 2) pay an average shop a reasonable amount to TRY repair because they've never done it. You'll care more about your car then they will