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Title: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 13, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
I am trying to find my 70 superbird that i now regret selling. I purchased my first Superbird in march of 2013 and then later sold it in january of 2015. Here is the information on the car as follows.

                       1970 Plymouth Superbird
                       FYI Lemon Twist Yellow
                       White interior bucket seats with console
                       V code 440 six pack
                       VIN: RM23VOA167047

This was a one owner car that i had purchased in Grand Rapids , Michigan from a guy named Mike Partridge.  So one day when i was flipping channels on the TV i see my Superbird on stage at the 2015 Indy Mecum Auto Auction. I had contacted mecum auctions to find out who purchased my old bird but they would not give me any information. Ive also tried to contact the person who had purchased it from me but i didnt have any luck . I just joined this site and i am glad i found it !
If anybody on this forum can help me reunite with my Superbird or knows where it is or has any information on the lemon bird please let me know . also pm me , thankyou !
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 13, 2017, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: 58fury on April 13, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
I am trying to find my 70 superbird that i now regret selling. I purchased my first Superbird in march of 2013 and then later sold it in january of 2015. Here is the information on the car as follows.

                       1970 Plymouth Superbird
                       FYI Lemon Twist Yellow
                       White interior bucket seats with console
                       V code 440 six pack
                       VIN: RM23VOA167047

This was a one owner car that i had purchased in Grand Rapids , Michigan from a guy named Mike Partridge.  So one day when i was flipping channels on the TV i see my Superbird on stage at the 2015 Indy Mecum Auto Auction. I had contacted mecum auctions to find out who purchased my old bird but they would not give me any information. Ive also tried to contact the person who had purchased it from me but i didnt have any luck . I just joined this site and i am glad i found it !
If anybody on this forum can help me reunite with my Superbird or knows where it is or has any information on the lemon bird please let me know . also pm me , thankyou !
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: Aero426 on April 13, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
Several of us here the car well from when Mike owned it.    It was kind of sad to see it at auction like another piece of meat.      I don't know where it wound up.     
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 13, 2017, 08:22:12 PM
thanks for the reply we will have to keep searching !
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Post by: moparstuart on April 14, 2017, 09:29:05 PM
Was Mike the original owner ?  I though he told me he bought it early on but it was a repo or something ?  or am i just confused ? :shruggy:
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 15, 2017, 01:45:11 AM
From the way Mike told me that he purchased the car in December 1970 and had it till 2013 when i purchased in March or April 2013. Mikes Superbird was featured in two mopar magazines in the eighties , i still have the magazines , i wish i still had the car but god willing i will find it !
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: Aero426 on April 15, 2017, 07:04:35 PM
I didn't think he was the original owner. 
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Post by: nascarxx29 on April 16, 2017, 01:52:34 PM
http://www.moparsonsale.com/mopars-for-sale/l0466.php    Description or Comments
I HAVE OWNED THIS CAR SINCE DECEMBER OF 1970. IT IS AN ORIGINAL SURVIVOR WITH LESS THAN 28000 MILES. IT HAS BOTH JACKS,FRONT LICENCE BRACKET, ORIGINAL SPARE, LOTS OF DOCUMENTATION,ORIGINAL DEALER ANOUNCMENT, BUILD SHEET AND WINDOW STICKER, MUCH, MUCH MORE.
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 16, 2017, 03:56:50 PM
yes this is how i found the superbird from this ad on the internet back in 2013 and i bought the car kept it in my garage until january 2015. I had been in seach of a all original yellow superbird for many years and i had finally found exactly what i was looking for. My plans were to keep the car all original and never to do a full restoration on the car as long as i owned it . this superbird amazed me by all of the original chaulk markings on the inside of the door jambs ,under the trunk and under the hood and engine compartment and also all of the original decals and information labels. My plan was to keep the superbird until the day i died but do to my fathers bout with cancer my family was running out of options financialy and i had no other option but to step up to the pump and help them and my father get through this terrible time in our lives. this is when i had to do what i had to do and sell my dream car. Fortunitely everything seems to be going well with my father sofar . this way i am in search of my superbird and hopefully i can buy her back and reunite her back into the family. Wingcars Forever !!!!!!!!
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Post by: nascarxx29 on April 16, 2017, 08:44:41 PM
Posted on facebook in aero cars somebody named Steve sasko knew the cars owner
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 16, 2017, 08:58:31 PM
thanks for the reply does this Steve know how to track down the current owner ?
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: nascarxx29 on April 18, 2017, 09:38:30 AM
 the reply on facebook   Steve Stasko The guy who bought the car off of the person looking for it, is a Corvette flipper from my hometown. He really didn't know what he bought, other than it was a Superbird. He called me asking how to determine if the car was numbers matching and etc. I seem to recall he wanted $165k for it. It brought a good bit less at auction when he took it there. Quite a few people who know the guy were hoping he took a beating on the sale...he's that type of guy...lots of friends...
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 18, 2017, 12:49:19 PM
Where is your home town and also Steves ?
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Post by: hemi68charger on April 18, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
Good Lookin' Bird... Wish my Lemon-Twist had white interior too...  Heck, maybe I'll change it........  :icon_smile_big:  Haven't started the restoration yet as the shell is still at the body shop...

Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: Dragon Slayer on April 20, 2017, 11:19:59 AM
I hate to say it, but it seems like a fishy story.  I was at that auction and bid on that car.  Based on how it was presented, I am not sure how you owned it in between.  Seems you would have known most of this unless this was flipped several times in a short period.

Call Mecum again and give them your full information and tell them to pass it on to the new owner.  If he or she wants to contact you they will.   G
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 58fury on April 20, 2017, 12:51:46 PM
it is because i never registered the car i payed cash for it . when i sold it i sold it with a open title from the original owner.
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: 70 sublime on April 20, 2017, 01:12:17 PM
Quote from: 58fury on April 20, 2017, 12:51:46 PM
it is because i never registered the car i payed cash for it . when i sold it i sold it with a open title from the original owner.

So you owned a real bird and never drove it  :shruggy:
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: Aero426 on April 20, 2017, 01:18:36 PM
If you are in a position to buy,  why don't you keep your options open for a different Superbird?     
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: birdsandbees on April 20, 2017, 02:46:05 PM
I find it hard to believe that the Auction House let you put a car on the block that wasn't registered in your name! Not a hope in hell that would be allowed here..
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: MoPaR 312 on April 20, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Read the first post... he didn't sell it an auction.  He later saw it at an auction after he sold it.  If I was planning on keeping a completed car though I would definitely register it my name and I'm assuming most people would unless you want to flip it and not pay the tax on it.
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Post by: birdsandbees on April 20, 2017, 03:53:04 PM
Quote from: MoPaR 312 on April 20, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
Read the first post... he didn't sell it an auction.  He later saw it at an auction after he sold it.  If I was planning on keeping a completed car though I would definitely register it my name and I'm assuming most people would unless you want to flip it and not pay the tax on it.

Yes sorry.. I see it now, he bought it...never registered it or paid tax and then sold it and that guy put it up for auction.  :2thumbs:
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Post by: 58fury on April 20, 2017, 05:28:17 PM
last post nailed thankyou !  yes this is what happened the owner after me put the car on the auction block! not me .
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Post by: Dragon Slayer on April 20, 2017, 08:45:31 PM
Why put in writing what is illegal unless your a dealer with TAX id. Your just opening yourself up to the tax man or worse.  I guess if you did title it Mecum would have known and would be more willing to pass info on and the guy who bought it could not pass it off as a one or low owner car.  Good Luck with your effort.  G
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Post by: boss429kiwi on April 20, 2017, 09:16:17 PM
You need to pay tax on the sale of a car!! wow.
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: birdsandbees on April 20, 2017, 09:19:14 PM
Quote from: boss429kiwi on April 20, 2017, 09:16:17 PM
You need to pay tax on the sale of a car!! wow.
Purchase.. not sale. Collected via state / province tax rate at time of registration.  :brickwall:

Mind you... on the sale of a car, I would be expected to pay capital gains if I sell my superbird for more than I originally paid for it (and costs of improvements). Taxed on 50% of the gain at my income tax level. If I was to sell it I can tell you that my Bee restoration cost invoices would quickly state Super BIRD.. not BEE..  :nana: to the tax man..
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Post by: boss429kiwi on April 20, 2017, 09:21:05 PM
Quote from: birdsandbees on April 20, 2017, 09:19:14 PM
Quote from: boss429kiwi on April 20, 2017, 09:16:17 PM
You need to pay tax on the sale of a car!! wow.
Purchase.. not sale. Collected via state / province tax rate at time of registration.  :brickwall:

ouch!
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Post by: boss429kiwi on April 20, 2017, 09:24:29 PM
So when I see a car sell at auction (Mecum etc), not only is there the 10% buyers fee, but also tax on the purchase price, if registered.
So the true sale is Auction fee + tax?

What is the average tax rate across states?

thanks
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Post by: birdsandbees on April 20, 2017, 09:29:37 PM
Ontario Canada is 13% EVERY time a used car is sold..  :brickwall:
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Post by: Stevetona on April 20, 2017, 11:02:42 PM
Quote from: birdsandbees on April 20, 2017, 09:29:37 PM
Ontario Canada is 13% EVERY time a used car is sold..  :brickwall:

I just have to find a way to write a Mopar off as farm use.  :lol:

Plus throw on another 35% if you buy from the U.S. :eek2:
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Post by: Dragon Slayer on April 22, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: boss429kiwi on April 20, 2017, 09:24:29 PM
So when I see a car sell at auction (Mecum etc), not only is there the 10% buyers fee, but also tax on the purchase price, if registered.
So the true sale is Auction fee + tax?

What is the average tax rate across states?

thanks

It varies state to state but about 3 to 7 percent.  At many of the state auctions they force mecum to collect tax at your registered state rate, unless your a dealer.  So yes it can add up.
Title: Re: Can somebody help me find my BIRD !!!!!!!!
Post by: Aero426 on April 25, 2017, 05:07:43 PM
Photo of Mike and Joyce Partridge with the yellow Bird.
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Post by: moparstuart on April 25, 2017, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 25, 2017, 05:07:43 PM
Photo of Mike and Joyce Partridge with the yellow Bird.
Man i miss Mike  :angel: :'(
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Post by: 58fury on April 25, 2017, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 25, 2017, 05:07:43 PM
Photo of Mike and Joyce Partridge with the yellow Bird.


Wow were did you find this picture ? What year was this from ?
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Post by: moparstuart on April 25, 2017, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: 58fury on April 25, 2017, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on April 25, 2017, 05:07:43 PM
Photo of Mike and Joyce Partridge with the yellow Bird.


Wow were did you find this picture ? What year was this from ?
South Dakota Winged Warriors Meet   http://www.wwnboa.org/sdmeet.htm
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Post by: nascarxx29 on April 26, 2017, 10:33:02 AM
http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/Wingcars69/17991956_10207117601697707_5669042742229040003_n_zpseworgztz.jpg

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae240/Wingcars69/18010345_10207117605177794_5939862170234925558_n_zpsauup2bvx.jpg