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nice Charger, has the wrong oil pan , sorry could not help myself LOL
It also has a fake fender tag. CRW (white leather interior) was never available for the 1969 Charger SE. :lol:
it used to be F3 CRG :o
Good looking 500 but for that sort of money you would have gotten obvious things correct, like the rear side marker lens bezels NOT painted stripe color. They should be body color.
Quote from: cdr on August 27, 2021, 08:03:30 PM
nice Charger, has the wrong oil pan , sorry could not help myself LOL
Wrong negative battery cable too.
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 28, 2021, 03:01:06 PM
Good looking 500 but for that sort of money you would have gotten obvious things correct, like the rear side marker lens bezels NOT painted stripe color. They should be body color.
I noticed that myself
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 28, 2021, 03:01:06 PM
Good looking 500 but for that sort of money you would have gotten obvious things correct, like the rear side marker lens bezels NOT painted stripe color. They should be body color.
That a 500 thing only, as all the other Dodge's are stripe colour... :yesnod:
How much more would this car be worth if (every thing else being the same) it had a 4 speed vs. the automatic?
I think it's a beautiful car. The nuances or "incorrect" items can be fixed. Asking prices are just that: asking prices.
I've got a real, numbers matching Panther Pink T/A Challenger that I am seriously considering selling, but I've come to the conclusion that I'll have to cancel my membership to all the MOPAR sites I'm on, before I advertise it. Why? Because I don't want to read about my car being crucified as to what it is and what it isn't. :lol:
Asking price definitely dictates the amount of "picking apart" a for-sale vehicle, and the hardest part for a private seller is to know what that fair price is, to minimize the scrutiny. A seller can always come down but can't really go up (unless it's a house in today's market)! :Twocents:
Would love to see that pink challenger! If my wife saw it I think my bank account would take a massive hit.
Quote from: 66FBCharger on November 29, 2021, 12:42:18 PM
How much more would this car be worth if (every thing else being the same) it had a 4 speed vs. the automatic?
They claim about 10%, but it seems that having 3 pedals adds more like 15-20% in my opinion. :yesnod:
Quote from: Birdflu on November 29, 2021, 06:29:30 PM
Quote from: 66FBCharger on November 29, 2021, 12:42:18 PM
How much more would this car be worth if (every thing else being the same) it had a 4 speed vs. the automatic?
They claim about 10%, but it seems that having 3 pedals adds more like 15-20% in my opinion. :yesnod:
Would it still make it worth that much more if it was factory an auto but changed to a 4 speed set up ??
Quote from: 70 sublime on November 29, 2021, 08:28:14 PM
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Would it still make it worth that much more if it was factory an auto but changed to a 4 speed set up ??
I personally don't think so... If this was a regular Charger and you did that, maybe, but not this... But, that is my own personal opinion...
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 29, 2021, 08:38:09 PM
Quote from: 70 sublime on November 29, 2021, 08:28:14 PM
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Would it still make it worth that much more if it was factory an auto but changed to a 4 speed set up ??
I personally don't think so... If this was a regular Charger and you did that, maybe, but not this... But, that is my own personal opinion...
Agree! :yesnod:
Just a note for whomever maintains the registry.
I noticed today that VIN XX29L9B232018 is listed on two rows. Namely, rows 246 and 247 of the registry document.
Hi Folks, 16 July 2022
We noticed the front seats do not have head rests. Our former 69 Hemi Daytona that is now Bob J's has them as does our 69 440 Six Pack. What gives?
The underside sure looks impressive, maybe too impressive to put: "On the Road Again."
Sure looks nice.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on July 16, 2022, 09:41:55 PM
Hi Folks, 16 July 2022
We noticed the front seats do not have head rests. Our former 69 Hemi Daytona that is now Bob J's has them as does our 69 440 Six Pack. What gives?
The underside sure looks impressive, maybe too impressive to put: "On the Road Again."
Sure looks nice.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
headrests was a option ! for D series 1968 models & for the early build 69 E series models with a SPD of 1968.
federal law mandated all new cars had to have headrests fitted that were built on or after january 1st 1969 :yesnod:
I personally couldn't drive a car without headrests and good seatbelts!
I've been in a crash without belts and my nose got smashed! :slap:
But also been 'hit up the rear' (more than once) in two write-offs too.
Got bad whiplash even with modern safety equipment... :bump: :bump: :bump:
And don't get me started on underfloor paint either... :slap: :slap: :slap: :spank: :spank:
Dark grey primer dip and that is THAT!!! :paintingpink: :paintingpink: :paintingpink:
Must be something to do with RED Mopars? (70 sixpack Cuda) :horse:
Motortrend getting 'in on the act' too... :paintingpink:
But forgetting the PAINT issue, I was more interested in the 'strengthening' bars running from the rear to the 'spring perch' mounts!
Very clever and I will add a set to my 'rotisserire' when I do my Charger 500 floors in DARK GRAY (GREY)... :sarcasmalert:
As Mick always says, '' I SEE A RED FLOOR AND I WANT TO PAINT IT BLACK''... :coolgleamA:
Yellow Mopar on a rotisserie with 'original paint'...
Not a lot of yellow under there... :scratchchin:
Hi Folks, 17 July 2022
Have perused the posts on this thread. Thinking the reason there are no headrests is probably due to a replacement interior. Didn't see any mention as to "Matching Numbers." The $1.65 Mil Super Bird isn't a matching numbers car so maybe that proves Matching #'s are no longer the big deal it seems to have been.
The undercarriage looks impeccable. This looks like a car a collector friend of ours in Fort Worth / Dallas would have. He has cars all over the area in his warehouses. Guess we'll have to give him a call to see what he knows about it. If it is his, you can be certain it has been over restored, which this looks to have been. Personally, we like it.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on July 17, 2022, 12:35:17 PM
Hi Folks, 17 July 2022
Have perused the posts on this thread. Thinking the reason there are no headrests is probably due to a replacement interior.
Head rests were optional prior to Jan 1st 1969, this optional on every 1969 Charger 500 ,
But by the time Daytonas came out , they were standard equipment
Quote from: aerolith on July 17, 2022, 09:25:59 AM
Yellow Mopar on a rotisserie with 'original paint'...
Not a lot of yellow under there... :scratchchin:
Thank you sir.
"Right click, Save As"
Looks like a Hemi car.
Roger Gibson, under-restores lol... :2thumbs:
These cars were built 'on a price' to make profit for Mother Mopar!
I remember a famous Challenger out in Cali that was 100% perfect except for the 'painted floor'.
It would have won 'best in show' but the Judges including GG said ''NO''...! :slap:
No car with underfloor body colour can ever be judged... :shruggy: :shruggy: :shruggy:
So Collector car mags got involved and the Judges 'backed (eventually) down' lol...
Now it can be judged in a new category, ''Best in Show'' with full body colour lol... :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
If Mother Mopar painted under-floors, then the whole paint shop line would have been changed to do so?
Another $100-$500 on each car lol... :paintingpink: :paintingpink: :paintingpink:
Hi Folks, 18 July 2022
Looked over the rotisserie car. It's not a B body. If it's a Hemi car it should have torque boxes. There's something there but it doesn't look like what our cars have for them. Next time we are at the shop I'll crawl under the RR and take photos of them.
In my opinion, why go to the trouble and expense in making the car look as sloppy as it looked fresh from the factory and Creative's handiwork. If you are having it restored have it look like it should have looked when fresh off the assembly line. Paint runs and overspray don't do a thing for us. If you are spending $200K +, make it look like you spent it.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: aerolith on July 18, 2022, 10:00:35 AM
Roger Gibson, under-restores lol... :2thumbs:
These cars were built 'on a price' to make profit for Mother Mopar!
I remember a famous Challenger out in Cali that was 100% perfect except for the 'painted floor'.
It would have won 'best in show' but the Judges including GG said ''NO''...! :slap:
No car with underfloor body colour can ever be judged... :shruggy: :shruggy: :shruggy:
So Collector car mags got involved and the Judges 'backed (eventually) down' lol...
Now it can be judged in a new category, ''Best in Show'' with full body colour lol... :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
If Mother Mopar painted under-floors, then the whole paint shop line would have been changed to do so?
Another $100-$500 on each car lol... :paintingpink: :paintingpink: :paintingpink:
Now it can be judged in a new category, ''Best in Show'' with full body colour lol... :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
I remember saying that in here before, Chrysler never painted entire Under Carriages body color. Some people laughed I didn't know what I was talking about & insisted Chrysler did paint there under Carriage body color. :shruggy:
Quote from: 426HemiChick on July 18, 2022, 06:53:34 PM
Hi Folks, 18 July 2022
Looked over the rotisserie car. It's not a B body. If it's a Hemi car it should have torque boxes. There's something there but it doesn't look like what our cars have for them. Next time we are at the shop I'll crawl under the RR and take photos of them.
In my opinion, why go to the trouble and expense in making the car look as sloppy as it looked fresh from the factory and Creative's handiwork. If you are having it restored have it look like it should have looked when fresh off the assembly line. Paint runs and overspray don't do a thing for us. If you are spending $200K +, make it look like you spent it.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
I had a Mopar Collector buddy of mine well known in the Hobby that spends big bucks on Resto's that was trying to decide which way to go on one of his Resto's, The better then Factory over restored look or the sloppy orange peely crappy rough factory look. He was told the sloppy orange peely crappy rough factory look was harder to do & more expensive & once done nobody will get it? get why it looks like crap? SO, He went the over restored route. LEON.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 18, 2022, 08:59:21 PM
I had a Mopar Collector buddy of mine well known in the Hobby that spends big bucks on Resto's that was trying to decide which way to go on one of his Resto's, The better then Factory over restored look or the sloppy orange peely crappy rough factory look. He was told the sloppy orange peely crappy rough factory look was harder to do & more expensive & once done nobody will get it? get why it looks like crap? SO, He went the over restored route. LEON.
Hi LEON, 18 July 2022
Your buddy makes sense. Spending all that money trying to make it look as crappy as it did when Creative released it is a joke. We understand Creative was on a tight schedule causing numerous flaws in the finished product. Why try to duplicate that crappy workmanship? To each his own.
Looking at the undercarriage of the C500 is a pleasure. The slop stuff should be relegated to the dustbin of history.
Take Care LEON, and Thanks.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
I think after 50 years of RESTO, the powers to be 'NOW' allow 'full painted bodies'.
But when an unrestored original survivor car is put next to it, then the 50 year old car LOOKS BAD! :slap:
Roger Gibson has done his BEST to un-restore his 'restored cars' as they are 'over restored' to Rolls Royce/Cadillac standards.
We all thought he was MAD (some twenty years ago), but I now believe he is right... :2thumbs:
Too hot for RESTO toady in sunny Kent UK, its 100 DEGREES a new record for us Limeys lol... :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:
Quote from: aerolith on July 19, 2022, 07:51:18 AM
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Roger Gibson has done his BEST to un-restore his 'restored cars' as they are 'over restored' to Rolls Royce/Cadillac standards.
We all thought he was MAD (some twenty years ago), but I now believe he is right... :2thumbs:
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Hi Limey John, 26 July 2022
Are you saying Roger Gibson has gone back and made changes to the cars he originally restored to make them look like the messes Chrysler and Creative generated? If he did I'm assuming the folks that own the over restored cars requested the
"Unrestored" look and paid Roger to do it.
Are you also saying he started un-restoring his beautiful restorations 20 years ago?
If I were younger and was having him restore the Daytona we had, I'd have him make it the most perfect and the best car he ever turned out. I'd never put it on the road again. It would be a museum piece and would only be transported in an armored and totally enclosed trailer. I'd also buy a nice clone to match so I'd have a Dayton to drive. This is nothing against clones; you can make clones but you
cannot make a genuine Original Daytona. They are Precious !!! Too many idiots on the highways with their faces buried in some tech device.
Hope all is going well with you and your S.O. Looking forward to the day you and Anne (hope I got her name right) drop in for a visit. You'll always be welcome.
Best Always Limey John
426 Hemi Chicks