Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I had a 73 RR Clone once with a set of leather buckets out of some late 80s Ford car. They were the same as T-Bird/Cougar seats only they were grey leather. Maybe from a Lincoln or something. Anyway, they were really comfy. The guy I bought it from was really big and he needed more leg room. SO he ditched the bench seat and put these in it. He had mounted them back pretty far too. I could slide them all the way back to the back seat. There was no console in the car, but I bet one would have still fit.
I dont have any aftermarket seats in a Charger, but my 79 Blazer has seats from a newer Nissan mini-van. They are perfect, I have power everything too... even lumbar. :icon_smile_cool: My only recommendation is dont let go of your original seats because one day you will want them back.
i've seen a bunch of different combos.... chevy camaro seats, newer dodge intrepid/stratus leathers, even durango seats in 68 charger.
look on ebay... mcmahon mopars seem to have descent priced covers?!?!? or A-1 canvas too
cool ill check out those links, Im pretty sure ive seen pics of chargers with 80's vintage camaro seats, i had an iroc and the buckets were very comfy, this is an option....
I've spent some amount of time deliberating that move and in my travels i have noticed that mid '90s Jeep Grand Cherokee's leather seat's stitching pattern closely resembles the 1969 Charger pattern... saw a pair on e-bay for 300.oo but they were too far away to ship..
Kabb reports the plymouth laser and doge daytonas have great seats too,.. Kabs a big lug like me,.. too... :icon_smile_wink:
there are some custom cars like autodynamics that have trick seats too...
lettuce know what ya' find out pls..
Yep - Corbeau GTS II. They sit about 2" lower than stock and are EXTREMELY comfortable... LOVE EM'!
http://www.lateral-g.net/members/musto/interior2.jpg
My 73 had a bench seat and I wanted bucket's so I modified it.
I had to weld on the inner seat perch on both sides to mount them.
I went with the corbeau seats and they are great.
I installed a five point restraint and it works great.
Sort of on topic...will 3rd gen Charger buckets bolt into the 2nd gens?
ya know i used a measuring tape to check the '71 road runner (third gen essentually) distance from the front buckets outside bolster to the absolute outside width of the car (at the wheel well lip) and it was an amazing 10 inches. so the thirds are quite a bit wider then seconds... approx 5 inches...
i can meaqser both tomarrow if you can wait..
Sure can
im sorry TO i compleatly forgot and i'm at work now... im gonna attach a post it to my forehead so remember tomarrow first thing... :pity:
Haha no rush buddy.
http://www.corvairkid.com/sebring.htm
this guy put newer sebring seats in. If you have a 68, then the leather will match the vinyl ok enough. plus you solve the seatbelt problem too.
I removed the bench from mine as all the foam was gone and i had horse blankets for cushion :brickwall:nd installed the buckets out of my dads 89 ply.reliant.they have nice bolsters and are firm.slipped on some black seat covers and bam its fun to drive again.oh yeah got a console too ( too bad I still have the column shifter :violin:)
In my opinion, those Sebring seats look ugly. I'd really like an older highback seat, or something like 400/6/PAC put in his '73, but I don't have immediate access to a welder.
the problem with older high back seats is that they are, by definition, old seats. If I was swapping seats, I would not even waste my time on swapping old seats for old seats.
If you are going for driveability, then an integrated seatbelt is nice or I'd go with corbeau's, some other aftermarket seat.
If you are not swapping out a seat for the purpose of driveability, then I would not bother, leave the stock ones.
dkn1997,
I understand where you are coming from, but I'm not swapping old seats for old seats. I'm starting with no seats at all.
I see, but chager addict, who started this thread, specifically asked about putting newer seats in his car, I was just addressing him .
In your case, you could use 70 highback seats. my first '68 charger in high school had them and they were ok comfort wise.
Oh okay, I thought you were addressing me.
I would love some '70 highbacks but they are really expensive. Are there other same era highback seats that will bolt in?
I've always wondered how the 2000-up Monte Carlo seats would look in a Charger. With out measuring they look about the same size and plus you know old Charger low backs and Chevelle low backs looked similar , I seen a 71 Chevelle one time with the newer Monte Carlo buckets and I thought they looked great. Plus some were available with power seats, so you could wire that up. I just think if you wanted a newer seat that look somewhat similar to the old ones... you might want to check them out.
Jason
one thing you gotta watch out for on a 2nd gen is seat height. high backs are cool, but too high and they don't look right. Our cars are pretty low and the space from the top of the door to the roof is very small for the size car it is. I'm 5'7" and in my stock 68 seats, my head is pretty close to the roof.
I saw a 2nd gen at carlisle a few years ago, had 97and up grand prix seats in it. the ones that have square space in headrest. I have a grand prix and always thought they would look cool in an older car.....NO NO NO, did not look right at all. although 70 highbacks look ok because of the pointy shape of the top maybe....
try to keep them so that when you are looking from the side that the top of the headrest does not disappear into the roof..
check out this pics of mr angry, see the space, high back seat...but does not get swallowed up in the tiny window opening that ma gave us.
I gave up and just went with this classic corbeau set of seats for 250 each. Much cheaper for me than trying to make my old seats look new and they have a better bucket look I think.
(http://www.autobahnpower.com/images/classic.jpg)
Quote from: terrible one on February 11, 2007, 09:50:44 PM
Sort of on topic...will 3rd gen Charger buckets bolt into the 2nd gens?
If nobody has answered you yet, yes they can. I have a 73 Charger Seat in my 68 - the previous owner put one in :/
Quote from: Judhudson on March 11, 2007, 07:05:14 PM
Quote from: terrible one on February 11, 2007, 09:50:44 PM
Sort of on topic...will 3rd gen Charger buckets bolt into the 2nd gens?
If nobody has answered you yet, yes they can. I have a 73 Charger Seat in my 68 - the previous owner put one in :/
And they are in the original mounting position of the '68 seats? No extra welded brackets on the floor or on the seats?
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
Quote from: terrible one on February 11, 2007, 09:50:44 PM
Sort of on topic...will 3rd gen Charger buckets bolt into the 2nd gens?
70 use same first half 71 Chargers and 70-first half 71 E bodies. At least they look the same from the distance, so probably will be enough changing the seat tracks from 2nd gen to those laters ones to install them on 68/69 to match with holes and floor shape
i believe "pocket thunder" put 03" leather intrepid seats in his 68'!?!?!? i think i recall?!?!?!? ???
Quote from: HITMAN 149 on March 13, 2007, 12:03:01 PM
i believe "pocket thunder" put 03" leather intrepid seats in his 68'!?!?!? i think i recall?!?!?!? ???
:yesnod: :yesnod: And they are as comfy as all get out! But....... they do not recline forward past the upright position because they came out of a 4 door car. And with the seat all the way forward there is not much room to get into the back seat. So that just means that
fat Charger Fans old girlfriends festively plump chicks cant squeeze in the back seat. :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
:popcrn:
here is an example:
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26490.0;id=39980;image)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: PocketThunder on March 22, 2007, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: HITMAN 149 on March 13, 2007, 12:03:01 PM
i believe "pocket thunder" put 03" leather intrepid seats in his 68'!?!?!? i think i recall?!?!?!? ???
:yesnod: :yesnod: And they are as comfy as all get out! But....... they do not recline forward past the upright position because they came out of a 4 door car. And with the seat all the way forward there is not much room to get into the back seat. So that just means that fat Charger Fans old girlfriends festively plump chicks cant squeeze in the back seat. :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
woa!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :icon_smile_blackeye:
Quote from: NorwayCharger on March 12, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
what all did you have to do to get those seats to fit in car ,and do you have to run the belts all the way to the back like they are in the picture or could they be mounted to the front ,looks good ,you bought those from summit?
Quote from: 73chargers4404 on August 11, 2007, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on March 12, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
what all did you have to do to get those seats to fit in car ,and do you have to run the belts all the way to the back like they are in the picture or could they be mounted to the front ,looks good ,you bought those from summit?
I'm wondering the same as well! I would love the Summit seats but need some insight as to how to make them fit and how hard it was.
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: 73chargers4404 on August 11, 2007, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on March 12, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
what all did you have to do to get those seats to fit in car ,and do you have to run the belts all the way to the back like they are in the picture or could they be mounted to the front ,looks good ,you bought those from summit?
I'm wondering the same as well! I would love the Summit seats but need some insight as to how to make them fit and how hard it was.
They fit almost right the original holes, but i thought they where a little low so i made up some brackets that raised the seat 1"
The seatbelts you can fit as you like ;)
Quote from: NorwayCharger on August 11, 2007, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: 73chargers4404 on August 11, 2007, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on March 12, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
what all did you have to do to get those seats to fit in car ,and do you have to run the belts all the way to the back like they are in the picture or could they be mounted to the front ,looks good ,you bought those from summit?
I'm wondering the same as well! I would love the Summit seats but need some insight as to how to make them fit and how hard it was.
They fit almost right the original holes, but i thought they where a little low so i made up some brackets that raised the seat 1"
The seatbelts you can fit as you like ;)
So Norway, do the Summit seats come with like tracks and studs or whatever? And when you say they "almost" fit, did you have to drill new holes or did you oval out the existing ones?
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on August 11, 2007, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: 73chargers4404 on August 11, 2007, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on March 12, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
what all did you have to do to get those seats to fit in car ,and do you have to run the belts all the way to the back like they are in the picture or could they be mounted to the front ,looks good ,you bought those from summit?
I'm wondering the same as well! I would love the Summit seats but need some insight as to how to make them fit and how hard it was.
They fit almost right the original holes, but i thought they where a little low so i made up some brackets that raised the seat 1"
The seatbelts you can fit as you like ;)
So Norway, do the Summit seats come with like tracks and studs or whatever? And when you say they "almost" fit, did you have to drill new holes or did you oval out the existing ones?
They come with tracks, so you only have to oval out the holes in the seat tracks.
Quote from: NorwayCharger on August 11, 2007, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on August 11, 2007, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: 73chargers4404 on August 11, 2007, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on March 12, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
what all did you have to do to get those seats to fit in car ,and do you have to run the belts all the way to the back like they are in the picture or could they be mounted to the front ,looks good ,you bought those from summit?
I'm wondering the same as well! I would love the Summit seats but need some insight as to how to make them fit and how hard it was.
They fit almost right the original holes, but i thought they where a little low so i made up some brackets that raised the seat 1"
The seatbelts you can fit as you like ;)
So Norway, do the Summit seats come with like tracks and studs or whatever? And when you say they "almost" fit, did you have to drill new holes or did you oval out the existing ones?
They come with tracks, so you only have to oval out the holes in the seat tracks.
Ooh so you used your old front seat tracks that bolt to the floor and just ovaled out the holes in them to bolt the seats to the tracks?
Quote from: terrible one on August 12, 2007, 12:35:03 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on August 11, 2007, 04:15:13 PM
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on August 11, 2007, 01:30:02 PM
Quote from: terrible one on August 11, 2007, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: 73chargers4404 on August 11, 2007, 10:49:39 AM
Quote from: NorwayCharger on March 12, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Quote from: Chargeraddict on February 05, 2007, 05:35:58 PM
Im just curious if someone has had luck installing seats from a newer car? I dont think I have the money to invest in redoing the buckets right now, seeing as how the covers are 300+ each. I could see newer seats being more comfortable anyways, Im not worried about the value of my car either, its never leaving my hands.
I did fit those summit seats in mine 68
what all did you have to do to get those seats to fit in car ,and do you have to run the belts all the way to the back like they are in the picture or could they be mounted to the front ,looks good ,you bought those from summit?
I'm wondering the same as well! I would love the Summit seats but need some insight as to how to make them fit and how hard it was.
They fit almost right the original holes, but i thought they where a little low so i made up some brackets that raised the seat 1"
The seatbelts you can fit as you like ;)
So Norway, do the Summit seats come with like tracks and studs or whatever? And when you say they "almost" fit, did you have to drill new holes or did you oval out the existing ones?
They come with tracks, so you only have to oval out the holes in the seat tracks.
Ooh so you used your old front seat tracks that bolt to the floor and just ovaled out the holes in them to bolt the seats to the tracks?
Noup, i used the ones that was on the Summit seats..
I made some brackets to raise the seat 1".
You make them or you can buy them http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM%2DG1151&N=700+4294922468+400304+115&autoview=sku like this one.
Then you can drill the holes in the raising bracket where you want them.
The width of the Summit seat is perfect for the Charger.
Thanks for the quick reply,and thank terrible one for asking all the questions i needed answered,the seats look bad ass very nice ,its goiing to be fun for me i put in a wole new floor in, so there no holes at all in my floor, but i think theres braceing under the floor where the holes go, did you have to drill alot into that braceing to get them to fit snd was that a pain to do?
and allso what year did you fit those in ,i have a 73, i dont know if the seat placement is the same as a second gen
Quote from: 73chargers4404 on August 12, 2007, 10:05:47 AM
and allso what year did you fit those in ,i have a 73, i dont know if the seat placement is the same as a second gen
I have a 68, do not know the meassure for the 73, anyway fitting the seats in a 68 was APOC.
As i see it you got to raise the seat aprox 1", i am not a litte guy..
So making some brackets is a thing you got to do, and then the bracing under the floorpan will fit ;)
Alright, I'm sorry, but I'm still confused.
Norway, so you bought the seats from Summit that had tracks on them. Have a link to that?
Then what did you do? Oval out the holes in the floor and mount them up or what? Sorry, I'm sure I'm missing something easy. I just can't do much by means of fabricating stuff. . .
TerribleOne
Check out the instructions for the brackets on Summit's site. It makes things a bit clearer.
If you have conformation that the seats aren't too wide, you won't need to do any fabricating or modifications at all to the car, other than drilling a hole in the summit brackets.
Looks like the brackets mount to the seat, but the other side of the bracket (that goes on the floor) is basically untoched so you just need to drill some holes in the bracket, put a bolt through them, and that's it.
Seems like it should be really easy.
my :Twocents:
i have looked into this and mid '90s grand cherokee leather seats have exactly the same seat styleing as '69 chargers. back a few years ago now, there were some on e-bay for a few hundred bucks i forget the exact figure now...
i seriously thought of getting them then, but, not knowing the seat track dimensions and/or how to wire them into the electrical system, i passed I guess too that GCs being four doors they wouldn't fold forward either... :shruggy: all those things togeather spell out to me they'd be a problematic can of worms... :-\
carry on..
If i get the measurements off my 3rd gen could someone get me the measurement off a 2nd gen so i could see if these summit seats would work in my car .thanks :2thumbs:
Ahhhh! Haha breakthrough! I'm so stupid. I totally get it now, and this is the route I'm going. No thanks to paying half a grand for some ripped up '70 highbacks. Thanks guys! :2thumbs:
I don't know if this is the same where you guys live at, but you can pickup some plain factory import seats about 10 years or a little older out of a junk yard for about one hundred dollars for both seats and have them redone at a trim shop ranging about $300 to $500, I like the factory seats more than after market seats because they are made a little more durable than the after market seats and you can find used parts for them if you need them.
You can make some bases out of angle iron if you have the tools and weld them to the factory sliders, I just made some bases for some 93 Nissan 300ZX seats to fit a 69 b-body, the angle iron cost under $30 the bolts, nuts, washers and spacers where $20, I cut off the factory tabs to level the sliders off flat to weld to the angle iron.
The measurement for the spacing between the b-body factory seats holes was 13 7/8" left to right and 10 7/8" front to back, the inner seat holes near the drive shaft are level, the outer front holes need a 5/8" spacer and the rear needs a 7/8" spacer to lever the seat out with the tracks that where on the 300 seats.
DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNN those look sweet!!!!! nice job!!!!! gotta post a pic of what they look like in the car!!!!
Quote from: Upholstery guy on August 19, 2007, 10:46:04 AM
I don't know if this is the same where you guys live at, but you can pickup some plain factory import seats about 10 years or a little older out of a junk yard for about one hundred dollars for both seats and have them redone at a trim shop ranging about $300 to $500, I like the factory seats more than after market seats because they are made a little more durable than the after market seats and you can find used parts for them if you need them.
You can make some bases out of angle iron if you have the tools and weld them to the factory sliders, I just made some bases for some 93 Nissan 300ZX seats to fit a 69 b-body, the angle iron cost under $30 the bolts, nuts, washers and spacers where $20, I cut off the factory tabs to level the sliders off flat to weld to the angle iron.
The measurement for the spacing between the b-body factory seats holes was 13 7/8" left to right and 10 7/8" front to back, the inner seat holes near the drive shaft are lever, the outer front holes need a 5/8" spacer and the rear needs a 7/8" spacer to lever the seat out with the tracks that where on the 300 seats.
Bad assed.....you da man :drool5:
If you get seats from a junk yard make sure the frames are not broke or rusted bad, put your knees on the seat area and grab the seat back and try to move them they should not move too much they should stay pretty ridged, if you hear any clicks or sounds the frames may be cracked or the adjusters maybe broken just make sure all of the parts work on the seat if not just find another set.
Here's some shots of the seats in the car, the drivers seat sets .75 inch higher than pass because seat motor clearance.
OOOOOOOOHHHHH BOY!!!!!!!!!!! I SEEEEEE A CUSTOM CHARGER IN THE WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:popcrn:
keep us up to date!!!!!!!!! :cheers:
That was nothing short of awsome!! This shows that with bright ideas and and a good eye for details, great stuff can be made!!! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/AUTODYNAMICS/DSC02719.jpg)
Now that is sweeeet :drool5:
i'm working on it!!!!!!! just trying to decide on which one's???? i'm looking at a couple now on ebay & making some calls!!!
pete... no one like's a showoff!!!! LOL!!!!!!! :drool5:
here's '70 seats restiched in a '68 pattern in a '68 FYI:
HEY BROCK...
hmmmm those look interesting!?!?!!? :scratchchin:
i originally posted these in the eureka i found it thread,.. i'll repost them here now, so ya dont git a crick in yur neck.. :icon_smile_wink:
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32891.0;id=52807;image)
(http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32891.0;id=52808;image)
it occurs to me these may not be '70 buckets but third gens, just because the point on the top,..
Is anyone able to verfiy?.. :shruggy:
how come the baby's seat doesn't match?!?!?! LOL
yea they are a lil pointy!!?!?!?
Hey Brock Sampson, did you have any trouble bolting those into your '68? I have a '70 but I can't seem win the right seats on ebay so I'm thinking of trying 3rd gen seats if they will fit.
Feeding my weird compulsion to post in old threads.