As some guys recall ridelikehell had a not scared resto thread on his rust belt charger. I'm headed down the same road. I wanted to use photobucket to insert the image, but its blocked at the office. Flickr does not seem to have a direct img code. If anyone wants to put the imgs in direct feel free. I have dial up at home so that can't happen :(
I've done most of the blasting and some cutting out,drilling spots. My brothers own a shop and been doing it for 30 years, so they are doing the real metal work.
Some carnage
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4820905599/
added a rust free door and lid for giggles before tear down
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4821528550/
floor
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4821582590/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4821582594/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4821582598/
new amd installed
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4820946031/
hinge pillar before the install of the donor
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installed donor you can see the cancer on the upper cowl(next thing changed)
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presto no more cowl
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Donor cowl
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4820946033/
seperated and blasted
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4820938529/
waiting on a section of rear seat pan and section of 1 front inner fender. Once the seat pan is patched along with the inner i'll blast the front clip. Front clip was pretty good shape.Then off to the rear.
Have the whole AMD rear clip and roof skin.
Car rotted wierd. Most cars in this shape the springs are threw the trunk and frame rails gone, inner rockers done. The rails still have original paint and the rest of the unibody was solid. Inner rockers not even pitted yet the floor was toast.
lower cowl in
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4820962251/
Upper rested on
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4820962229/
going to paint the lower plenum this weekend.
Drivers hinge pillar gone and a ptch on the topside of the rocker
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4820962267/
Very nice work replacing those pieces. Brothers are talented.
you got some metal work going on there Dude ?? are you returning it to stock fender tag color combo ?? or ?? ..... good lot of pictures , thanks for the links !! love looking at this kind of stuff :yesnod: :popcrn: :cheers: :cheers:
Honestly I don't think its going back B5. The original motor is gone :(. I plan on dropping in a steel crank 71 or older 440. Headers,cam, maybe a dualplane and holley street avenger if it will fit on the dual snorkel under the stock hood.
As it is now pretty sure tripple black with a red tail stripe and old school american racing 200S wheels. I always wanted a 68 r/t tripple black since i saw bullet when i was a kid, but life tossed me a 70. No biggie as much as i prefer the 68 front grill the 69-70 rear is growing on me.
I've had quite a few blue cars threw the years and not a big fan of b5. If it was b7 i could have lived with that.
It was a twin to 70RT's car ( i think is his screen name)
b5
white top
white inside
white longtitude stripes
auto on the floor
Hadn't welded since highschool. Tried it on the torsion bar crossmember :S
decided i'd stick to drilling,cutting,blasting,priming. Leave the metal and body work to a professional.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/52339318@N04/4821528562/
The upper/lower cowl is all welded in along with the drivers door hinge pillar since the last update.
We did a little work on the car today. We got the old rotted front upper roof bow cut out and the donor roof bow blasted/primed. The donor drivers inner was blasted/primed too. Tomorrow's venture is to fab a brace using the shock mounts to stiffen the front end before removing the drivers inner.(hope to get it out and the area blasted primed as well).
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donor sitting in place. Blasted and primed the corner areas ready to weld in tomorrow
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:cheers: Just saw this thread...nice to know I was inspiration :icon_smile_big: Keep up the great work!
Marc
inner roof bow been welded in. The top of the front frame rail required a patch I assume from battery acid over the years.
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patch test fit
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Pic of the bracing my brother fabbed up.
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the frame piece welded in and inner is gone blasted,primed ready to weld in the donor tomorrow.
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This thread is awesome. I have a charger in pretty much this shape. Question for you: did you fabricate the patch for the upper frame rail under the battery tray? Any more pics? I would love to see all of them as they are very instructional considering I have to replace the same sheet metal.
Great thread and awesome job on the restroation. :2thumbs:
Quote from: Barwell on January 30, 2011, 11:56:18 PM
This thread is awesome. I have a charger in pretty much this shape. Question for you: did you fabricate the patch for the upper frame rail under the battery tray? Any more pics? I would love to see all of them as they are very instructional considering I have to replace the same sheet metal.
My brother made the top pieces on the metal jig. I'll check to see if i have others. She has been out of the shop since mid september as the winter accident boomss started rolling in. Hoping to squeeze it back in soon, so he can tackle the rocker,roof drip rails/skin, rear clip.
Any updates to this thread? I have been using your pictures on Flickr as a reference. They are very helpful! I just pulled my cowl off tonite!
Only done a little more patching on the rear floor. Shop has been rolling for the past year. :(
Have not given up hope yet.
Gearing up to go in the shop in the next couple weeks :)
......... :2thumbs:................................. :popcrn:
Off to the races again.
Donor section in the rear seat pan area welded in. One foot well welded in. One left to go and the floor will be done.
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Still goin. Floor is finally done.
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Its just itching to get the new AMD lower deck filler plenum and 1 piece trunk floor installed.
:popcrn:
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I guess real estate signs use to be metal...........
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:popcrn:
The only frame rail that had damage. They hooked a chain on it and tore up a section.
Now you see it.
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now you don't
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Brother (65POST on the board) in action
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Remains
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Waiting
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Rear window frame and outside pieces of the package tray were mangled.
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Some metal crafting and voila
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Reconstructed inner corner now in place along with an AMD lower window frame. V shaped piece had to be fabbed on the tray where the blower motor would mount.
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Lower channel
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trunk floor gone
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Ran into some more unexpected. Rear inner fenders are crispy around the bottom along with around the trunk supports.
Another AMD order
inners/rear crossmember/upper rear roof bow/door skin.
Still kind of baffled the frame rails,spring perches are so solid with original paint still on them :shruggy:
Keep up the good work :cheers: . This thread is giving me alot of motivation. I was looking at my '70 last night, shaking my head, and trying to figure out where to start. My car needs ALOT of work and to see someone else in the same boat and gettin' er done is inspiring :2thumbs:
:popcrn:
Quote from: roundyrounder on March 01, 2012, 09:25:43 PM
Keep up the good work :cheers: . This thread is giving me alot of motivation. I was looking at my '70 last night, shaking my head, and trying to figure out where to start. My car needs ALOT of work and to see someone else in the same boat and gettin' er done is inspiring :2thumbs:
:popcrn:
Thanks for the kind words. Peck away at the uni body as a starting point. :2thumbs:
She has had the AMD catalog thrown at it for sure.
I checked my excel file parts list tonight. Roughly 11k in new and used sheet metal counting the front fender,door,trunk lid.
I'm guesstimating around $30-35k total invested once done. Not bad considering a new econobox commuter is 25K+. I didn't have 35-40K laying around to buy a turn key car. Easier to dump some $$ over a few years. Hard to believe its going to be 4 years in the summer since we hauled it home.
Woman at work was saying they just got a new ram 1500 long horn with every option and its $900 a MONTH for FIVE YEARS. :slap:
Safe to say in 5 years it will be worth maybe 10k. Helps me feel better about it lol.
Roof skin has been cut off. inner structure blasted and primed. Rain drip gutters replaced with AMD. The inner structure needed a piece added on under the rain drips on both sides. Waiting on the rear upper roof bow and the rear crossmember,inner wheelhouse to close off the back end and roof skin.
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New piece made to repair the inner structure under the rain drip.
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New skin waiting..
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I salute You! Great work. I hope you will be patient enough to finish it, and not burn out doing it so you will also enjoy it and not sell it right after. seen many guys here do that, work 10 years at a car and sell after 1st summer of driving it :scratchchin:
Quote from: surmanajaja on March 12, 2012, 03:44:31 AM
I salute You! Great work. I hope you will be patient enough to finish it, and not burn out doing it so you will also enjoy it and not sell it right after. seen many guys here do that, work 10 years at a car and sell after 1st summer of driving it :scratchchin:
I bought it back in 2008 hard to believe already been 3 1/2 years i've had it. It was out of the shop from Oct 10 this past february. Once the trunk floor is in that will be another big hole filled. Button up the rear clip and roof skin. Its on a pause this week, parts still are not in. Two accidents came in on the weekend.
I would love to get a 69 C500. If i was to sell it once done i'd put cash on top and buy a turn key C500. Its part of the family now though. Lots of blood/sweat/tears involved.
:o been busy , looking good :yesnod: keep the pictures coming :2thumbs:
The good thing is you will have a new car when done! I can't believe I've had my Charger since 2004. Too many distractions! Most of them are gone now. Your panel replacement is inspiring.
Is the red paint a epoxy primer? What brand?
Also----great photos. Many show areas of the charger I've never seen. Always wondered what was under the cowl.
Quote from: Chatt69chgr on March 12, 2012, 10:04:14 PM
Is the red paint a epoxy primer? What brand?
Also----great photos. Many show areas of the charger I've never seen. Always wondered what was under the cowl.
Its rustoleum red epoxy primer. Used it for the areas you won't see once its together. For a first we are going to use this aircraft Zinc Chromate once all the AMD panels are on and stripped,the bottom is blasted on the rotisserie.
http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/cspages/ptizincchromateprimer.php
This is pretty damn impressive. You have your work cut out for you, and you're doing great work.
Great Job!!
Quote from: sixpack70 on March 12, 2012, 07:47:42 PM
The good thing is you will have a new car when done!
I was hoping AMD would send me a licence plate or something :P
Wow being on the east coast can certainly kill a car. You guys are doing a great job and I can't wait to see the next update...
A few more pics
Other rear window corner has been reconstructed
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Yours truly giving her a sand bath
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cleaned up
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end result
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This week it received some more AMD metal surprise ;)
Rear crossmember,upper rear roof bow have been welded on. The rocker has been test fitted and once I blast a bit of the rest on the inner and prime it today it will go on next week.Going to put some black rustoleum paint inside the rear frame rails today, so the trunk pan can go in next week too.
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o159/rpmmustang89/charger%20resto/DSCF3432.jpg)
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apparently a mouse motel at 1 point
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Brother was saying of all the AMD parts so far he put on the only disappointment was the stamping of the rocker. The whole thing was on an upward bow.
nice work :2thumbs:
Quote from: nvrbdn on March 31, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
nice work :2thumbs:
Thanks I will pass on the credit where it is due.
I eat some more sand today and blasted the backside of the rocker and primed it. Put some rustoleum black paint inside the rear frame rails. Trunk pan and rocker are ready to go in this week.
Gotta hand it to you. Doing a nice job there. :cheers:
Sandblasting is truly one of the suckiest jobs out there. :eek2:
Quote from: bill440rt on April 01, 2012, 10:28:23 PM
Sandblasting is truly one of the suckiest jobs out there. :eek2:
You said it. I think i'll see if i can rent one of those air fed helmuts for doing the whole underneath. Might eat a little less sand.
Got the inside of the rails painted and the inner rocker blasted Sunday. Brother has been busy the past couple days. Rocker is welded on and the trunk floor is about 1/2 done. :cheers:
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Got to love the AMD metal. The rocker we joined below the hinge pillar as the rocker was patched over top of the pilar initially as didn't think the rocker was soft until it got hit with sand. The mouse nest must have held moisture over the years. Virtually no bodywork to do on the rocker either after some jacking at different points and welding.
been busy !! looking good :coolgleamA:
Some spotweld recreations, and the bottom of the trunk lock support redone. This weeks fun is the tail panel and rear valance.
Wow AMD missed the ball on the positioning of the tail light buckets on the panel. Brother had to take the buckets off and reposition them.
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Trunk lock support welded in.
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Taillight test fit didn't go good buckets had to be cut off and re welded.
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Trunk extensions are in. Rear valance was test fitted and well lets say its on the table getting reworked.
I guess AMD is busy still waiting from my rear lower valance and my one piece trunk pan. They say it is back order! :brickwall:
Quote from: Memphis Mopar on April 12, 2012, 09:18:56 PM
I guess AMD is busy still waiting from my rear lower valance and my one piece trunk pan. They say it is back order! :brickwall:
I've always wondered how much AMD has sold $$ wise in mopar metal since the debut.
From what we have seen and many others on the board you might want to look into a goodmark or other rear valance. The AMD one has issues.
Only thing i ever had to wait on was outter wheel houses. I waited for the new releases as the first batches were a bad fit.
I am looking to get a tail panel what are the issues ???
and I seen a lot of people add an inch to the rear of the trunk floor !!?
Quote from: HOTROD on April 12, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
I am looking to get a tail panel what are the issues ???
and I seen a lot of people add an inch to the rear of the trunk floor !!?
Only real issue was the buckets for the lights that are spotted onto the panel. Once you bolt the lights in they don't fit right in the holes. Had to take the buckets off and refit them on the panel itself. Lots of test fitting but they ended up nice. Would be better if the buckets were not installed from AMD. As for the trunk floor didn't have to add any at the back. It fit like a glove.
So far the rear valance is the worst. Put the corners up to it and the body line is way off and where the valance spots to the bottom of the tail panel it does not line up.
Quote from: HOTROD on April 12, 2012, 10:44:38 PM
and I seen a lot of people add an inch to the rear of the trunk floor !!?
Wow.Was it an AMD?
Some pics of the trunk extensions,rear valence/valance corners, tail panel. Looking like a charger again.
Off to inners/outers and 1/4 test fitting.
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inner/outer wheel houses and 1/4's on the way
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:2thumbs: :popcrn:
Quote from: tan top on April 19, 2012, 06:48:23 PM
:2thumbs: :popcrn:
Thanks
She's starting to look like a charger again.
The 1/4 looked good in the box but when we got it on the car and took a good look down the the length of it it did not look so good.The fit is good though.As for the end caps they are going to get a TOTAL make over.That being said over all we are very happy with the AMD parts even if we have to TWEAK them a little.
Quote from: 65post on April 21, 2012, 09:13:22 PM
The 1/4 looked good in the box but when we got it on the car and took a good look down the the length of it it did not look so good.The fit is good though.As for the end caps they are going to get a TOTAL make over.That being said over all we are very happy with the AMD parts even if we have to TWEAK them a little.
AMD makes good stuff for us, a little tweaking is part of the game on old car that have been used for 40+ years.
I do it every day on newer Toyotas and other makes.
Great project you have there, keep up the good work :cheers:
Quote from: NorwayCharger on April 22, 2012, 02:11:57 AM
Quote from: 65post on April 21, 2012, 09:13:22 PM
The 1/4 looked good in the box but when we got it on the car and took a good look down the the length of it it did not look so good.The fit is good though.As for the end caps they are going to get a TOTAL make over.That being said over all we are very happy with the AMD parts even if we have to TWEAK them a little.
AMD makes good stuff for us, a little tweaking is part of the game on old car that have been used for 40+ years.
I do it every day on newer Toyotas and other makes.
Great project you have there, keep up the good work :cheers:
I bought the 1/4's not long after they became available. I don't know if the stampings have improved, but mine are wavy the full length. Will need a skim of putty over the whole panel and blocked before any high build/spray fill blocking can start.
For $1800 for the pair and the metal being so thick they should be straighter.
hell i some ways ur car is better then mine and in other ways mine is better then urs. but great work. keep up the good work. :popcrn: :2thumbs:
Quote from: charger chris on April 22, 2012, 08:26:02 PM
hell i some ways ur car is better then mine and in other ways mine is better then urs. but great work. keep up the good work. :popcrn: :2thumbs:
They all rot a little differently I guess. Most cars i came across needing floors,cowl,pillars ect the rails were toast spings through the trunk. Probably the factory undercoat is what saved the rails on my car. There is still blue paint over spray under the undercoat on the rails.
Nice work :cheers:
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on April 23, 2012, 10:16:39 AM
Nice work :cheers:
Thanks
Did AMD send you a license plate :icon_smile_big: ? i'm still waiting for mine. They saved 2 Canuck cars. :2thumbs:
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on April 23, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on April 23, 2012, 10:16:39 AM
Nice work :cheers:
Thanks
Did AMD send you a license plate :icon_smile_big: ? i'm still waiting for mine. They saved 2 Canuck cars. :2thumbs:
Is there an AMD supplier in Canada? :) Might be 3 cars saved... :)
Quote from: 69finder on April 24, 2012, 01:10:41 AM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on April 23, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on April 23, 2012, 10:16:39 AM
Nice work :cheers:
Thanks
Did AMD send you a license plate :icon_smile_big: ? i'm still waiting for mine. They saved 2 Canuck cars. :2thumbs:
Is there an AMD supplier in Canada? :) Might be 3 cars saved... :)
Depending on where you are located Shawn can help you out with AMD stuff among other things
http://www.macleanclassics.com/
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on April 23, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on April 23, 2012, 10:16:39 AM
Nice work :cheers:
Thanks
Did AMD send you a license plate :icon_smile_big: ? i'm still waiting for mine. They saved 2 Canuck cars. :2thumbs:
No just a jelly of the month club subscription for life :smilielol:
Quote from: 69finder on April 24, 2012, 01:10:41 AM
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on April 23, 2012, 07:37:54 PM
Quote from: RIDELIKEHELL on April 23, 2012, 10:16:39 AM
Nice work :cheers:
Thanks
Did AMD send you a license plate :icon_smile_big: ? i'm still waiting for mine. They saved 2 Canuck cars. :2thumbs:
Is there an AMD supplier in Canada? :) Might be 3 cars saved... :)
SMS auto classic in Delson. CHeck them out on ebay. THeir prices are inline with the amd catalog. Just add exchange and thats their price.
Passengers 1/4 is on except for the welds to the trunk extension as the valance corners are nowhere near correct. 1/4 Fit is pretty good, the actual stamping not so much. Body lines are all over the place and quite a few imperfections in the metal. The valance corners are junk. Don't know how AMD can put their name on them.
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To get the body line to line up at all it does not come close to fitting the 1/4 see pic 2. After some massaging it fits the valance quite well. Going to widen the cap on the valance side to line up with the 1/4 and probably will have to tweak the side of the cap that meets the 1/4 as well.
nice work. thats messed up. :slap: amd. i heard that the croner was a problem but i was going to wait and see for myself after i get started on my charger but i need to get the body inline first. my door opening are not right door points to the floor :scratchchin: so need to fix that first
I salute your hard work and determination. It makes me feel lazy. I would have found a better car to fix up, unless it was a real Hemi car. Don't stop now, you have gone too far
Quote from: ACUDANUT on April 27, 2012, 10:58:26 PM
I salute your hard work and determination. It makes me feel lazy. I would have found a better car to fix up, unless it was a real Hemi car. Don't stop now, you have gone too far
Thanks for the kind words.
Canada is pretty well picked over in the 2nd gen r/t project area. I looked for close to a year for a r/t and ended up getting it in NH. Seems like waiting for that rust free car at a reasonable $$ or a major hemi project at a reasonable $$will never come these days. Everyone thinks they have the last 1 of 1 car :P. Had to start somewhere.
:2thumbs: you can only work with what u can get and in the price range. hell i got my charger for really cheap and to behonest i think i was lucky but i just got the shell with one door and dash and stering column every thing was gone. :popcrn: so i look at this way at least there people will to put them back together they will always be around :2thumbs: to you. my car needs rear frame rails and along with the rest of the back part of the car. so i say great man and keep doing what you doing. it looks great.
looks like it is doing well. thanks for posting the process. :2thumbs:
Still going. Drivers side rocker behind the door needed a patch along with the bottom of the door jamb. Inner/outer wheelhouses on and the drivers 1/4 is tacked and lined up good at the door. Will need some tweaking where its suppose to fit the base of the rocker in front of the wheel.
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Crazy what he does with some sheet metal and a metal break. :popcrn:
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Drivers quarter fit quite well. Some had to be trimmed off the bottom in front of the wheel. Surprise the valance end cap wasn't even close to fitting on the drivers side either. It went under the knife. Looking at it now in person it is hard to tell that it is wider than when it came out of the box.
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Passengers side valance cap has been operated on same story as the drivers side. Roof skin has been glued on. Deck filler and lower plenum are on. Sail panel areas on the 1/4 needed some cutting and metal added for the gap to the deck filler to be right. In the corners more cutting and welding for the lower window corner trim to fit.
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Nice work there my man...Did you say glued on ?
Quote from: ACUDANUT on June 05, 2012, 08:42:29 PM
Nice work there my man...Did you say glued on ?
Thanks
The roof skin yes. 3m panel bond across the mid supports and along the drip rails. The front and rear window channels and roof to 1/4 joints the skin is welded on.
:2thumbs:
Looks like you're going with the '69 trim for the tail light panels, are you going to black out the panel itself? In my opinion, the '70 trim itself wasn't what made it odd looking, it was the fact that the panel was body colored and not blacked out.
Then again, you know what they say about opinions. Sweet ride man, keep the pics coming :)
Quote from: hatersaurusrex on June 05, 2012, 11:15:24 PM
Looks like you're going with the '69 trim for the tail light panels, are you going to black out the panel itself? In my opinion, the '70 trim itself wasn't what made it odd looking, it was the fact that the panel was body colored and not blacked out.
Then again, you know what they say about opinions. Sweet ride man, keep the pics coming :)
The lights in it were just used for testing as the buckets had to be cut off and moved and rewelded. I have the original lights without the trim in storage. I believe even with the trim panel on you could not see the chrome trim anyway. I saw in another thread a pic of a 70 r/t with blacked out tail panel. I liked it, but not sure I'd go that route.
:2thumbs:
nice !! :coolgleamA: looking good !! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Awesome work! that takes a lot of skill and patience's. :2thumbs:
Excellent metal work. You're quite the perfectionist; I can tell just by looking at some of my panel gaps...
I'm really excited to see this car done, but right now, I'm loving the progress.
Quote from: Vainglory, Esq. on June 06, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
Excellent metal work. You're quite the perfectionist; I can tell just by looking at some of my panel gaps...
I'm really excited to see this car done, but right now, I'm loving the progress.
Oh yes brother is a perfectionist and will only do things the right way. No short cuts :2thumbs:
coming along nice. :2thumbs:
Well AMD messed up again. Put a door skin on the passengers door this week. As you can see the fins on the door scallops are too long and stick out past the door scoop a good 2 inches.
Pretty sure the outer skin was the same on all 68-70s. Compared the skin to the original door and the fin jets out further back than the original. Hello hammer/dolly/putty
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Some more progress.
Shifter brackets are on and shifter assembly has been redone. Door skin is on. Hood has been dissected. Top side had holes for hood pins that have been welded up. Top side has been striped, blasted and primed,hood pin holes welded up.
Lower support needs a lot of work. The rat nests rotted out the underside in a few spots. Why no repro hood again ? :brickwall:
I looked and looked..finally I called Stephens Performance and had to pay a pretty penny for one but I will say it was in very nice shape.
From the pix on this page the pass. side door skin looked OK to begin with?
That sucks about the scallops. After looking at the work you guys' are doing the scallops could prolly be done blindfolded.
Amazing work going on, very impressive.
You should tell your brother he's not too bad working that steel & should think about doing it professionally. ;)
The scallop had been taken care of with the hammer/dolly.
Skin was rotted in the bottom corners. Would have just put a lower on it, but the rot was up over the lowest body line.
Pics went wacky on photobuck all blurry not sure what happened will have to try it again.
That sail panel to dutchmen gap looks great :cheers:
I had to do the same to get mine to fit.
Quote from: Ryan on July 22, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
That sail panel to dutchmen gap looks great :cheers:
I had to do the same to get mine to fit.
I emailed AMD some pics of the door skin and they said they hadn't heard about it and would look into it. While i was at it i sent some pics of the valance corners,deck filler to sail panel gaps, the tail light buckets with a tail lamp installed before we cut them off and repositioned. Never heard another word..
I emailed AMD some pics of the door skin and they said they hadn't heard about it and would look into it. While i was at it i sent some pics of the valance corners,deck filler to sail panel gaps, the tail light buckets with a tail lamp installed before we cut them off and repositioned. Never heard another word..
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By the look of the fitting AMD should have given them too you for free.Think if were not the owner and had to pay to have those gaps filled the cost would out weigh the product just to get them to fit. :brickwall:
car is looking good, love the wheels and tires.
Quote from: BIRD67 on July 26, 2012, 11:22:16 AM
car is looking good, love the wheels and tires.
Original mags from the 70's still on it with bias plys.
I have some of the original american racing 200S wheels in 15 x 8 to go on it when its finished. Love the look of those on a 2nd generation.
Quote from: Aussie R/T on July 26, 2012, 03:32:38 AM
By the look of the fitting AMD should have given them too you for free.Think if were not the owner and had to pay to have those gaps filled the cost would out weigh the product just to get them to fit. :brickwall:
I can't hate on AMD too much cause before AMD Restoring this one would have only been achieved by buying a rust free shell and cutting it up as a donor. Parts may have fit better though LOL
:o waooohh obsoluty beautifull :popcrn:
try the hood pics again
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Hood pin holes are now a thing of the past. :2thumbs:
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hood is ready to go back together its been rebuilt lets say :P
I gave up trying to find a straight rust free 70 hood, so work with what you got.
:coolgleamA: nice :2thumbs: :yesnod:
:drool5: wow crazy pulling that thing apart hats off man
Hood is buttoned up and passengers fender needed a bottom put on thats been done. Will have to put up some more pictures. The last panel will be the drivers side fender. Bought it in primer as nos that was stripped and reprimed. Lets just say it was sand blasted to the point of warping so bad they beat in the fender about 1/2 inch to get some strength and bonoed the whole thing. Once it was stripped it wasn't pretty.
Not sure whats going to happen with it. Looked for 2-3 years just to find a fender.
May have to try and use the old nasty original fender and make 1 fender out of the two.
Stay tuned.
waohhhhh beautifull work
So the last piece of metal work was the drivers fender. Was hoping to find another, but ya right good luck finding a good 70 drivers side.
The previous owner blasted both sides and warped the crap out of it, beat it with a ball peen hammer till it had holes. They finished it off with metalux and lots of putty.(keep in mind i bought it as a "reprimed NOS" $600 landed) The weak spots were cut out and new sections put in.
Here she goes
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Why didnt you do this from the start??? Looks amazing :2thumbs:
I guess anything is fixable right lol.
Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on June 27, 2012, 05:12:05 PM
Well AMD messed up again. Put a door skin on the passengers door this week. As you can see the fins on the door scallops are too long and stick out past the door scoop a good 2 inches.
Pretty sure the outer skin was the same on all 68-70s. Compared the skin to the original door and the fin jets out further back than the original. Hello hammer/dolly/putty
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The evaluation engineers are idiots at AMD. how difficult can it be with all the tools at their disposal and an original door right in front of you? Rocket science I guess.
Dane
I'm glad you not scared. :cheers:
She is up and spinning on the rotisserie.
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delicious :popcrn:
Underneath is on primer
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you are doing an awesome job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :2thumbs:
:cheers:
Thanks. It has been a long time comming, but she will be better than new.
Best up-skirt... i mean underside* photo ever :popcrn:
Been two years since its been out of the shop. We lost Mom last year due to that deadly C word, wasn't thinking cars at all last year. She is back now the body work has started.
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Sorry about your mom. I am glad to see you back to work on this piece. Great work all the way around. :2thumbs:
I like how you did the body work/metal work first & then put it on the Rotisserie. Most people do it backwards & just put on on the rotisserie first. Looks good. LEON.
Quote from: hemi-hampton on August 29, 2015, 01:49:49 AM
I like how you did the body work/metal work first & then put it on the Rotisserie. Most people do it backwards & just put on on the rotisserie first. Looks good. LEON.
I also agree with this 100%. metal work ,first rotisserie after.
Thanks guys.
Lets just say i must have got the 1st 70 AMD 1/4 off the roller. The marker light does not fit the hole at all. Bottom line isn't even straight.
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Both doors and trunk lid on paint. Few steps closer.
This door had a new amd skin.
looking good :yesnod: :popcrn: :cheers:
Looking good!
:cheers: Impressive work! Lookin good.
Getting closer
Contined
Have the 4speed apart all kinds of carnage there.
Did you figure it would take 12+ Years too get this far? LEON.
Lol early on i was going to sell it to try to buy a c500.goodthing i didnt sell as i could not afford to rebuy it as it is now.
Let it be a lesson to others spend more buy turn key.mind you nowdays that is probably even further out of reach today.
4speed got a new cluster gear,mainshaft,input shaft,bearings,seals and some shiny paint.
Diff ready to go back together and mount the new leaf springs.
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Nice work. Finally got mine out for a cruise this last weekend and can't wait for the day when I can finally work on mine. LOL