I was thinking..
We all know that C500's and Daytona's started life as R/T Chargers and ALL had the V88 option.. But, there HAD to be some predetermined cars that were destined to be converted, not just a case where they grabbed some off the line and sent them to Creative Industries... My point is, the C500's and Daytona's don't have the holes drilled for emblems on the rear quarters where the standard R/T's had them..... That's another way to tell a C500 / Daytona from a regular V88 R/T....
OK, sorry for the mind-melt and useless banter...
Troy
i've seen a daytona with r/t emblems. they said it came that way from the factory.
Were the chargers that were used for the conversions built to completion on the line? If so, then creative would have had to remove all of the front clip as well as the rear glass and moldings. Seems like a lot of work to put the car completely together only to take it back apart later.
Quote from: hotrod98 on December 07, 2005, 12:47:00 PM
Were the chargers that were used for the conversions built to completion on the line? If so, then creative would have had to remove all of the front clip as well as the rear glass and moldings. Seems like a lot of work to put the car completely together only to take it back apart later.
In regards to the C500's, I'm sure they didn't have to remove the front clip. From the removal of my grille on my C500, it seems all modifications could have been done without the front clip removed. That's a totally different story on the Daytonas... Basically, the Daytonas got what we would envision as a modified '70 Charger front end..... Now, for both models, the rear window area and trunk lid did have to be modified and subsequently, repainted, but just around the window plug and trunk lid. I have seen a survivor Daytona that had overspray along the window seal channel on the driver's rear window. There's a famous picture on the Winged Warriors webpage of '69 Chargers in the lot with primered rear windows. Because there was welding going on back there, everything in the rear interior of the car was removed and hence, that's why almost all Daytonas and C500's have misplaced or missing Broadcast sheets....... The wind deflectors were added after the vertical drip rail moulding had been removed. Also, the complete side window seal channel had to be removed for the three attach screws for the deflectors are under this channel.. This is one of the reasons I'd bet Plymouth screwed the deflectors on the Superbird directly through the deflector into the window a-pillar... It would take way too much time to remove that channel to install the deflector.....
Troy
Quote from: BigBlockSam on December 07, 2005, 12:18:25 PM
i've seen a daytona with r/t emblems. they said it came that way from the factory.
You talking about the rear taillamp panel were there's one "R/T" emblem? Or are you talking about the two side ones on the rear quarters? If this Daytona had the stripe, I can't imagine the emblems remaining for it's something that's not easily missed.... Now, the rear taillamp panel "R/T" emblem, I could see that.... Maybe someone just didn't swap out the "R/T" script for the regular" Charger" script.
There is a Bronze Daytona in the Chrysler museum that has the R/T emblem on the Tail Panel. However I haven't ever seen a 500 or a Daytona with the R/T emblems on the side. Now however I do know that some of the early cars did have the R/T holes in their quarter panels. I have seen some of the very early cars that are unrestored, and looked from the inside of the trunk and you can see filler where the R/T emblems were. However the latest car I have ever seen the repair holes in was very early on in productions. Somewhere around cars Vin's beinging with 132 or so.
I think with all these C500 & Daytona tech findings, Troy should open up a C500 & Daytona Lounge!
I always wondered why the R/T tailpanel emblem was replaced on the Daytona. At the time was the Daytona supposed to be a whole different model or an R/T with the Daytona option? Although, with the wing back there I doubt the R/T emblem was needed to expose anything "special". :)
Quotethe rear taillamp panel were there's one "R/T" emblem
only on the rear panel
If there was a 500/Daytona area, would there really be much talking going on? Only a few of us would chat.
And there is very nice winged car forum already on the Net.
Quotethere is very nice winged car forum already on the Net.
:iagree:
Quote from: 694spdRT on December 07, 2005, 03:55:05 PM
I always wondered why the R/T tailpanel emblem was replaced on the Daytona. At the time was the Daytona supposed to be a whole different model or an R/T with the Daytona option? Although, with the wing back there I doubt the R/T emblem was needed to expose anything "special". :)
Yeap,, Bingo...........
Quote from: 69_500 on December 07, 2005, 04:09:25 PM
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And there is very nice winged car forum already on the Net.
And that would be where? Maybe I know it and don't even know it... Are you talking about the moparstyle site?
Troy
yea thats the one. i kinda remember you stopping by there
I've seen a few 500's with no bit for where the trunk light goes. I know creative cut the original out & wealded it on to the window plug, did they do this on all the 500's + Daytona's or was this only if ordered with a trunk light or light package.
Quote from: uk_69_500 on December 07, 2005, 08:36:41 PM
I've seen a few 500's with no bit for where the trunk light goes. I know creative cut the original out & wealded it on to the window plug, did they do this on all the 500's + Daytona's or was this only if ordered with a trunk light or light package.
My C500 didn't come with the A01 light package, so it didn't get the light and the switch. Here's a pic of mine. You can plainly see that the bracket for the switch is still in it's original position....
Troy
Another area, and it's the area of the main question, is my quarter area.. The quarter is original and there's no evidence of past holes. The holes would be pretty much directly over the side marker reflector.....
Troy
(http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL832/3604684/7419688/121175614.jpg)
thanks for the pics
I remember seeing in the book "Charger As only Dodge could build it" photos of emblem placement. which most of these were taken from parts catalogs. But the R/T emblem that was shown on the 69 Charger on the side wasn't above the rear side reflector.....it was moved forward from there.....not quite centered front to back.
2fast
I think I seen a daytona or 2 wearing a RT trunk badge .Inplace of the usually srcipt back there.It might have been on the archive pictures of creative industries .Pictures supplied by Greg K who found the 70 daytona picture at the chrysler .Building where he works .He also owns the 88 research daytona .And original test wing
You might see a daytona wearing a RT badge on this site
http://aerowarriors.com/afct.html
Quote from: 2fast4u on December 08, 2005, 12:52:38 AM
I remember seeing in the book "Charger As only Dodge could build it" photos of emblem placement. which most of these were taken from parts catalogs. But the R/T emblem that was shown on the 69 Charger on the side wasn't above the rear side reflector.....it was moved forward from there.....not quite centered front to back.
2fast
That might be.... The emblem should be in the same area as the cutout in the stripe. With that being said, then from the picture, you would clearly see the area where the holes would be....... centered relative to what?
Troy
Quote from: wingcars6970 on December 08, 2005, 01:32:36 AM
You might see a daytona wearing a RT badge on this site
http://aerowarriors.com/afct.html
Did all Daytonas leave CI with hood pins? It looks like they all have them in the pictures on the site you metioned.
Quote from: PocketThunder on December 08, 2005, 09:07:42 AM
Quote from: wingcars6970 on December 08, 2005, 01:32:36 AM
You might see a daytona wearing a RT badge on this site
http://aerowarriors.com/afct.html
Did all Daytonas leave CI with hood pins? It looks like they all have them in the pictures on the site you metioned.
Hey Paul,
Yes, all Daytonas had hood pins for that's how the hood was secure. They didn't have a latch, believe it not..... All they had were the hood pins and the safety latch/hook.....
Troy
Here's a pic of a '69 V88 Charger R/T. Note position of emblem...
(http://1970chargerregistry.com/1969gallery/albums/69ChargerPictures/Picturefol1_008.sized.jpg)
And then there's the position of the V8* cars.....
(http://1970chargerregistry.com/1969gallery/albums/69ChargerPictures/DSC03466.sized.jpg)
My 500 is the same as Troys, in that it doesn't have the A01 light package so the origional location is still there, but there is no mount for one in the new trunk opening.
Another thing to ponder.. The rear "R/T" emblem that the car came with with it was born. Now, people speak of the "holes" weren't drilled for the R/T emblem on the taillamp panel.. Has anyone ever looked to see if the spacing on the holes were the same between a "R/T" and "Charger" script? I'd be surprised if they were different. Why would there be two different panels when all you had to do was take the R/T emblem out and replace it with the "Charger" script emblem? I need to measure my spacing and then find that of the R/T and see if they are the same....
As we all know, the C500 and Daytona was suppose to get the "Charger" script, not the "R/T". I bet those Daytonas with the "R/T" emblem was a case where the technican working on the car just forgot to change it out before leaving Creative Industries
I think that the tailpanel emblems have the same holes in the same places, whether its an R/T emblem or a Charger Emblem. But yeah I think it was just a mix up at the time. Something people wouldn't bat an eye at back then, but do now.
my c 500 had the rt emblems on, there is bondo inside the trunk where they pached up the holes. my daytona did not ever have emblems on it.both cars are unrestored.
I've tried twice to reply to this thread now, and the server isn't in a good mood at the moment. :flame: I can't upload a document I have that gives the instructions for a Daytona to the Hamtramck plant right now. It will shed a lot of light on the subject...
Ok, let me try again...
The Daytonas were intended to be made as V88 R/T's, with no R/T ornamentation. No grille or headlamp doors, but pretty much everything else that an R/T's base option group would have except the badging.
If Hamtramck's body repair guys didn't catch that the R/T badging was on a car and fix it there, then Creative could easily have bondo'd up the holes on the quarterpanel and painted them up with body color while doing the window plug modifications. However... If the tailpanel emblem were there, they would have left that alone since they didn't paint anything else with Organosol (yes, that's what I think the Charger tailpanels were painted with at Hamtramck :icon_smile_big: ). In that event, they would have left the tailpanel R/T badging.
They would have HAD to removed any quarter emblems to do the tape stripe, so fill 'em in and spritz them while they're going. It wasn't supposed to be part of Creative's responsibilities to do anything with the emblems, and the vast majority of cars didn't leave Hamtramck with them in place.
Troy's right, all Daytona's had the hood pins - but they were a Creative-installed option. The '69 style hood pins are much closer to the center of the hood than a Daytona, and they were never coded on the fender tag or build sheet since Hamtramck didn't install them. Daytona's didn't have a hood spring either, meaning that you have to shove your fingers between the gasket/seal and the hood, and lift up to open the hood. A little lack of planning they fixed with the Superbird.
*edit* No luck on posting the file this time either...
Quote from: WINGMAN on December 08, 2005, 01:15:31 PM
my c 500 had the rt emblems on, there is bondo inside the trunk where they pached up the holes. my daytona did not ever have emblems on it.both cars are unrestored.
Hey there Wingman !!!! OK,, dude... We, I, want pics !!!!! :icon_smile_big:
I think since my C500 was a later one, those issues were resolved.. Maybe not.......
Troy
Hey Geno,,,,
You have that file? Maybe I can have some luck with it.... I wish there was a way to find some of the documentation on the C500's... There seems to be a supply of Daytona instruction...........
Troy
Just sent you an email with an attachment.
I'll try again in a sec
Great information.
and welcome there Wingman. And please post up some pics of your cars.
I'm assuming that your 500 is a pretty early build date car then?
Quote from: hemigeno on December 08, 2005, 02:04:51 PM
I've tried twice to reply to this thread now, and the server isn't in a good mood at the moment. :flame: I can't upload a document I have that gives the instructions for a Daytona to the Hamtramck plant right now. It will shed a lot of light on the subject...
You (and all regular members) can only upload image files so if that's a Word or PDF document you're out of luck. You can send it to my address though and I can manually put it up on the server.
Troy
Quote from: Troy on December 08, 2005, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: hemigeno on December 08, 2005, 02:04:51 PM
I've tried twice to reply to this thread now, and the server isn't in a good mood at the moment. :flame: I can't upload a document I have that gives the instructions for a Daytona to the Hamtramck plant right now. It will shed a lot of light on the subject...
You (and all regular members) can only upload image files so if that's a Word or PDF document you're out of luck. You can send it to my address though and I can manually put it up on the server.
Troy
Unfortunately, it's a .jpg file... I scanned the document, and tried to post it. Done it lots of times, just isn't working at the moment.
Ok, trying again... (thanks for all your efforts on this site, Troy!!!)
Thanks for posting that Gene. I wish there was paperwork like this for the 500's.
Quote from: 69_500 on December 08, 2005, 04:39:53 PM
Thanks for posting that Gene. I wish there was paperwork like this for the 500's.
Well, someone may still have it - who knows?
Did you notice up in the top right hand corner, they give the range of SpecialOrder numbers that would be used? That corresponds to the range of numbers I have in my system, incidentally... nothing higher, nothing lower.
Man,, I love it !!!! Thanks Geno and Troy..... I loved reading it....... Brings to light alot of things and yes, I noticed the order range..... See, no vinyl top and a/c.. Guess the C500's got in trouble with those items since there are a few C500 SE's out there with A/C..... Would love to see a stubby luggage rack...
Troy
I don't know if there was a similar prohibition against A/C on a C500. The grille opening size on a 500 is pretty much identical to a regular Charger, so there shouldn't have been any cooling issues related to the aero mod's installed on the car. I thought I had posted a scan of Bulletin #1 & #4 related to the C500 before, but maybe that was on the old site. The only prohibited options they list for the 500 is the luggage rack and vinyl roof (no mention of A/C being off-limits). They also stipulate that if you order tinted glass, the back lite would be clear (same for Daytona's).
Would it help if I scanned in those two bulletins again & posted them?
I think that you already posted those on this site. It might have been on the old site, but then again it might have been on this one. I think I saved the ones you posted.
Geno...
Thanks....... I think I'd like that....... I didn't save it......... But, I do remember reading it once and I don't remember anything about A/C....
Troy
I haven't ever went through the numbers I have and seen how many A/C Charger 500's there are but I think its quite a few. I think its around 13 or 14. And not all of them are SE 500's. I can think of 3 right off hand that have A/C that aren't SE's, and then there is also 4 I can thin of that are SE's with A/C.
No problem...
I'll gladly post both bulletins tomorrow when I get back here to the office.
Is this the sheet Gene?
and the other one.
Quote from: hotrod98 on December 07, 2005, 12:47:00 PM
Were the chargers that were used for the conversions built to completion on the line?
They would have had to be pretty close to completion as they had the interiors in them when Creative got them.
Quote from: hemi68charger on December 08, 2005, 11:43:36 AM
Another thing to ponder.. The rear "R/T" emblem that the car came with with it was born. Now, people speak of the "holes" weren't drilled for the R/T emblem on the taillamp panel.. Has anyone ever looked to see if the spacing on the holes were the same between a "R/T" and "Charger" script? I'd be surprised if they were different. Why would there be two different panels when all you had to do was take the R/T emblem out and replace it with the "Charger" script emblem? I need to measure my spacing and then find that of the R/T and see if they are the same....
As we all know, the C500 and Daytona was suppose to get the "Charger" script, not the "R/T". I bet those Daytonas with the "R/T" emblem was a case where the technican working on the car just forgot to change it out before leaving Creative Industries
The charger script has different mounting holes than the R/t emblem. I have seen clone cars that have an extra hole showing when an R/t emblem is installed
I think the 500's were completed when shipped to Creative. Hence the reason that many 500's have vacuum hoses still in the engine compartments. IE mine has the entire length of vacuum hoses still going from firewall to the grille area. And the origional headlight brackets are still behind the new grill and other odds and end pieces.
Thanks for posting those, Danny!
No problem at all. Thakns for posting them the first time.
HEY Troy,
Was reading this same thread over on MoparStyle and you mention nothing being behind the 500 grill. Here is some pictures of what lurks behind my 500 grill.
The last one just shows the vacuum hoses going up and over the radiator core support still.
That sure looks familiar :yesnod:
Quote from: 69_500 on December 09, 2005, 10:29:57 AM
No problem at all. Thakns for posting them the first time.
Thanks Danny... Awesome pics.. Great resolution...... I also love the fact that every C500 is pretty much different when it comes to cutting the vacuum lines.......
Troy
So do your guy's 500's not still have the mounts for the origional headlights behind the grill?
Quote from: 69_500 on December 11, 2005, 08:36:57 AM
So do your guy's 500's not still have the mounts for the origional headlights behind the grill?
I still have mine as all C500's should....
Troy
mine are still there
Okay because I was begingin to wonder when you guys were saying that there wasn't anything behind the grille.
Quote from: uk_69_500 on December 11, 2005, 10:43:36 AM
mine are still there
Hey! who's the new guy!
Welcome aboard from across the pond ......... :patriot:
It's paul from England
Heres a couple of pic's of my C500 i took today
Sweet !!!! Man, too bad I didn't know you already when I went to London for my training course.. Looks like you're in the process of putting her back together..... I'm sure it's the picture, but the holes for the rear "Charger" script are still there, no? That's a great looking C500 !!! Ever go down the Brighton time trails?
Troy
T7 C500
they've been welded up along with the sail panel one's & the rocker moulding one's. Previous owner did it, he only wanted the 500 badge on the tail panel and no others. I will redrill the rocker moulding one's & just stick the other badges on.
Quote from: uk_69_500 on December 12, 2005, 02:23:54 PM
they've been welded up along with the sail panel one's & the rocker moulding one's. Previous owner did it, he only wanted the 500 badge on the tail panel and no others. I will redrill the rocker moulding one's & just stick the other badges on.
Rats,,, oh well, at least you have a resource for that info if you don't have it already.... You have your grille emblems? Be careful with the rear "Charger" script reproduction item.. Sometimes the pegs are closer together than NOS pieces and will cause it to bend alittle.............
Keep up the good work....
Troy
Quote from: uk_69_500 on December 12, 2005, 10:23:01 AM
It's paul from England
Heres a couple of pic's of my C500 i took today
Hey Paul :wave: Nice C500 you have there.
Paul
from St. Paul, MN
Nice. Did you buy it in the UK or bring it over?
Glad to see ya posting pictures of the car. Very good looking car.
I believe that your 500 and ChargerAficianado's are the only 500's on the board that had Rocker Moldings on them from factory. I don't think anyone else's here had that.
I brought it in California last year & shipped it back to England (during shipping they dented the trunk lid & lower rear valence) I've got the grill badges just missing the things that hold them on & i got repo rocker mouldings from metro parts co. I will try & finish resto next year, i've got to finish my 68 R/T first.
Heres a pic of car before resto (in the back ground is my friend in England's 69 500 4-speed)
Quote from: uk_69_500 on December 13, 2005, 12:37:36 PM
I brought it in California last year & shipped it back to England (during shipping they dented the trunk lid & lower rear valence) I've got the grill badges just missing the things that hold them on & i got repo rocker mouldings from metro parts co. I will try & finish resto next year, i've got to finish my 68 R/T first.
Heres a pic of car before resto (in the back ground is my friend in England's 69 500 4-speed)
Well hell, there's two C500's in England !!??? I'm moving over there........
Troy
He said in an email to me that there is possibly 4 Charger 500's in England. Which is the same amount of Charger 500's that I know of in Indiana.
Quote from: 69_500 on December 13, 2005, 04:11:37 PM
He said in an email to me that there is possibly 4 Charger 500's in England. Which is the same amount of Charger 500's that I know of in Indiana.
Cool.. 4? Man, now I really wish I knew these guys before I went over there for my training course....
So far I know of four C500's in the Houston area, 2 hemi's and 2 440's... Also a Daytona.. There are various Superbirds around...
Troy
Hmmm, so 4 Charger 500's in the Houston Texas Area. 4 in England. 4 in the Indianapolis area, well all 4 are withing 5 miles of the city limits on various sides. Earlier this year I know that there were 3 in the Cleveland OHIO. They seem to migrate to each other I guess.
Hey Troy, can you post a picture of your engine compartment on Dana. I don't think in all the pictures I've seen of her, that I've ever seen under the hood.
Heeeeerrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee,s Dana!!
OK, before I get the critics out there...... Yes, I know that's a '68 3-speed wiper motor and the cap on the water bottle's the wrong way.. The wiper motor was swapped out from the 2-speed since I had the six pack on here for so long and the bottle, oh well.. :icon_smile_big:
Troy
She's perfect and don't let the critics faze you. It's a beautiful car.
I haven't ever figured out where those guys come off saying this and that about the washer bottles. I still can't see any difference. Is Dana a manual brake car?
Quote from: 69_500 on December 15, 2005, 06:42:11 AM
I haven't ever figured out where those guys come off saying this and that about the washer bottles. I still can't see any difference. Is Dana a manual brake car?
Yeap, Dana's a manual brake car..... The bottle cap should open the other direction. MaMopar had the bottles from the parts department, but those and the reproduction ones for MANY years and still to this day had the wrong cap....... Now, there are a few places you can find the proper bottle. But, it has the same appearance for the most part..........
Still a much cleaner engine compartment that my 500, that is for sure.
Definately a beautiful car.
Quote from: 69_500 on December 15, 2005, 06:55:01 AM
Definately a beautiful car.
:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:
:2thumbs:
Very nice Troy!
Thanks guys.... Not bad for a driver.... :icon_smile_big:
I need to paint the PVC grommet though......... I know for '70 on up, the grommet and valve were painted, but what's the story of the steel PVC valve on the '69 and earlier? Geno, you know? I'm pretty proud of the engine compartment. She didn't look anywhere as tiety and clean as this when I bought her....
Geno, you see the '68 Hemi Charger project thread?
Troy
Troy, yes the grommet is supposed to be painted, but the PCV valve is not painted. I had to look it up though...
I haven't gotten to the other thread yet -- will in a sec though! ;)
Quote from: hemigeno on December 15, 2005, 10:13:08 AM
Troy, yes the grommet is supposed to be painted, but the PCV valve is not painted. I had to look it up though...
I haven't gotten to the other thread yet -- will in a sec though! ;)
Cool,,, As my gut told me... thanks for the comfirmation......
T
Ah the tiny little things that bug us. When I went and looked at my 500 before I bought it, I was going over every little thing on it that I'd like to change back to origional. Then my wife asked me why I was going to buy the car if I was going to change everything. I told her because its what's right. Then again, I can only change a few things here and there, as time and money allows. In the meantime I do exactly what the car was intended to do though, and I DRIVE IT. :)
I have a Mopar parts replacement washer bottle in my car too and after getting it I found out that 1967 Mopar B-bodies have a one year only version. It bothered me for a minute until I found out that it was expensive to replace and the differences (which I still don't know) are only detectable to the truest fans of the 67 model year. I figured I wasn't a truest fan and slept soundly.
You mean only the nerds can see the difference? Oh wait, I guess I fit that bill on certain cars.
Nerds. Lol, that's funny. A close friend of mine will be over and as we sit there talking endlessly about the most trivial of details regarding old cars, my wife will occasionally walk by and just mutter "nerds". Someone at work once called me a Charger-geek and I took that as a compliment too. :icon_smile_big:
I get called a freak around my household for being so engrossed with these old cars. I'll drop what I'm doing if I thnk of something off the wall and have to go digging through old magazines's or photo's to see if I'm right or wrong. Or digging through a stack of papers on 500's and Daytona's to see how many of them I can recite from memory. Call me crazy but I think its possible to memorize all the Charger 500 VIn's and their full fender tag's.
Oh yeah. It's just like birthdays and anniversaries and you never forget any of those right?
Thats funny, because I'm bad at remembering Anniversaries, and Birthdays. But I do actually do pretty well with remembering Charger 500 VIN's and such. This year at shows, the other times I saw a 500, I would try to tell my wife what I thought the VIN was from a distance, and she would go over and tell me if I was right. If I wasn't, I'd go check the car out. If I was, I knew I had already seen it before. Unless it was owned by someone I had chatted to before, and in that case I'd make it a point to get over there and talk to them and see how they were doing.
a 2003 mopar action has an F8 69 hemi 500 stripe delete car in it but has astripe on it now-MATT
Quote from: F8 69 CHARGER PUNK on December 20, 2005, 01:01:28 PM
a 2003 mopar action has an F8 69 hemi 500 stripe delete car in it but has astripe on it now-MATT
Matt, I assume you know that all '69 Charger 500s and all Daytonas left Hamtramck with a V88 Stripe Delete code on the Fender tag? Mopar Action was stating the obvious if they mentioned it was a stripe delete car - they all were.
There is no way to know for certain which stripe color was added at Creative Industries. A buyer or dealer could request a particular stripe color on the vehicle's order form (and according to the instructions, specify no stripe at all), but Creative industries pretty much did what they wanted to on the stripe color. There is no definitive record of what color stripe was put on which car. The only hope is to find some way of verifying that the stripe that is on it was on there before any restoration or other work was done to it.
the car in the issue it states on the window sticker for a charger 500 that it is a stripe delete charger 500-MATT
Quote from: F8 69 CHARGER PUNK on December 20, 2005, 04:45:12 PM
the car in the issue it states on the window sticker for a charger 500 that it is a stripe delete charger 500-MATT
The window sticker WILL say V88, stripe delete.. This would most likely be on ALL Charger 500's in '69.....
Troy
Quote from: hemi68charger on December 20, 2005, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: F8 69 CHARGER PUNK on December 20, 2005, 04:45:12 PM
the car in the issue it states on the window sticker for a charger 500 that it is a stripe delete charger 500-MATT
The window sticker WILL say V88, stripe delete.. This would most likely be on ALL Charger 500's in '69.....
Troy
:iagree: :iagree:
Haven't came accross a Charger 500 yet that isn't coded as stripe delete.
Was the F8 one your refering to in the article an automatic, console car? Low mileage, like 1,500 miles or so? Wound up being for sale at Legendary Motor's 2 years ago?