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Aluminum intake install?

Started by Cncguy, May 09, 2017, 06:06:22 AM

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Cncguy

I'm going to install an Edlebrock performer intake on my 383. Do I need to use paper gaskets along with the valley pan? Or can I just use a new valley pan?

c00nhunterjoe

Just the valley tray with good rtv for 99.9% of installs

303 Mopar

Get the FelPro 1214 kit.  It has the heat cross over block to help keep the intake/carb/fuel cool.  https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-1214/overview/

I put on black rtv underneath to make sure it seals correctly.
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firefighter3931

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on May 09, 2017, 11:24:52 AM
Just the valley tray with good rtv for 99.9% of installs


Yep

Quote from: 303 Mopar on May 09, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
Get the FelPro 1214 kit.  It has the heat cross over block to help keep the intake/carb/fuel cool.  https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-1214/overview/

I put on black rtv underneath to make sure it seals correctly.

Yep...again  :icon_smile_big:



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Cncguy

Thanks for the replies. This helps a lot.

Cncguy

Quote from: 303 Mopar on May 09, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
Get the FelPro 1214 kit.  It has the heat cross over block to help keep the intake/carb/fuel cool.  https://www.summitracing.com/parts/fel-1214/overview/

I put on black rtv underneath to make sure it seals correctly.

Will this have any impact on the choke? Temp style choke.

c00nhunterjoe

Yup. Wont work right. Aside from the crossover blocked off, aluminum heats and cools different then cast iron. Tune the carb properly and you wont need a choke.

ACUDANUT

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on May 13, 2017, 06:34:18 AM
Yup. Wont work right. Aside from the crossover blocked off, aluminum heats and cools different then cast iron. Tune the carb properly and you wont need a choke.

I never needed a choke on a big block.  :Twocents:
Small blocks are a different story.

rollo1504

Ok I'm in.... "Never needed a choke on a big block"....

How can I adjust my carb that I do not need a choke?

Without manual choke if engine is cold I will have to stay with my foot on the pedal until the engine warmed up...

Have a 4160 1850-9 holley carb, sec vac, manual choke installed.

???

Thanks

alfaitalia

Its also going to depend where you live....in the cold damp winter of England or worse still Scotland its just not going to start in the winter without at least a little choke....unless you have it running horribly rich to start with........I'm guessing it might be a little different in Arizona in summer!
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c00nhunterjoe

Mine would start as cold as 25° f with no choke and no problem. Little throttle (1800rpm) for about 60 seconds, after that it would idle on its own at 1300.

rollo1504

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on May 14, 2017, 01:49:03 PM
Mine would start as cold as 25° f with no choke and no problem. Little throttle (1800rpm) for about 60 seconds, after that it would idle on its own at 1300.

I live in central Europe and I will use my Mopar only in Summertime when the weather is nice and the temperature is around 68 to 86°F

Now it makes sense if you say a "little" throttle is 1800 RPM :-)

My Fast Idle Cam is set to 1200 RPM and Curb Idle is 800-850 RPM.... 

So I am also pretty sure if I set my carb to 1800 fast idle and curb idle to 1300 that it will not stall

I thought you are running without choke with a fast idle around 1000-1200 RPM or so....

Roland

rollo1504

Quote from: rollo1504 on May 15, 2017, 03:09:26 AM
Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on May 14, 2017, 01:49:03 PM
Mine would start as cold as 25° f with no choke and no problem. Little throttle (1800rpm) for about 60 seconds, after that it would idle on its own at 1300.

I live in central Europe and I will use my Mopar only in Summertime when the weather is nice and the temperature is around 68 to 86°F

Now it makes sense if you say a "little" throttle is 1800 RPM :-)

My Fast Idle Cam is set to 1200 RPM and Curb Idle is 800-850 RPM.... 

So I am also pretty sure if I set my carb to 1800 fast idle and curb idle to 1300 that it will not stall

I thought you are running without choke with a fast idle around 1000-1200 RPM or so....

Roland

Or do you mean with little throttle that after firing it up to put your foot on the pedal for around 60 seconds.... I would guess that instead of setting the fast idle cam to 1800 rpm right?

sorry for the dump question

c00nhunterjoe

I dont have a fast idle cam. Just a holley double pumper carb. My normal idle with the big cam was 1200-1300 rpm.