I've started on my Daytona clone project.
I plan on driving this thing all the time. So it will be very versatile, but scary. :icon_smile_big:
Rather than deal with the issues on this website with picture resizing... and since I already started a forum page at an easier site to deal with over at
https://ramchargercentral.com/ (https://ramchargercentral.com/)...
I'll post a link with the story and pictures to there...
https://ramchargercentral.com/other-rides/my-daytona-clone-project/ (https://ramchargercentral.com/other-rides/my-daytona-clone-project/)
you will be happy with the Janek parts they are good quality and work well
Quote from: erndog on January 26, 2021, 05:04:45 PM
you will be happy with the Janek parts they are good quality and work well
I really wanted a "real" glass back window.
But, checking all the sources... there's nothing out there anymore.
And after some digging... the guy that was making them out of a shop in Los Angeles, kinda as a hobby/ side project, died. Now nobody has picked up the ball and ran with it.
I even looked at 67-68 Shivett Impala rear windows... they're real close. But being tempered, you can't cut them without the risk of breaking them.
Oh well. I want to put hold straps on the back window anyways. Easier to put holes in the plastic than tempered glass.
Nice work Kurt!
That's the best use of a very rusty 70 Charger EVER!!! :2thumbs:
$9500 for a SCHWARTZ chassis is a 'big hit' but well worth it with your plan... :cheers:
Gotta be a VEGA Hatch for clones I'm afraid, not many options, (Viva la France clone).
Truly wonderful to see folks still doing THIS STUFF! :notworthy:
Got to be RamChargerMental.com :shruggy:
Chassis pic, needs more rubber on those rims methinks? :smilielol:
Quote from: aerolith on January 27, 2021, 04:43:29 AM
Nice work Kurt!
That's the best use of a very rusty 70 Charger EVER!!! :2thumbs:
$9500 for a SCHWARTZ chassis is a 'big hit' but well worth it with your plan... :cheers:
Gotta be a VEGA Hatch for clones I'm afraid, not many options, Viva la France clone
Truly wonderful to see folks still doing THIS STUFF! :notworthy:
Got to be RamChargerMental.com :shruggy:
Thanks for the nice comments.
Yep. I always wanted a Daytona ever since I saw my first one on the showroom floor at Anaheim Dodge back in '69. I was in the 9th grade and rode my Schwinn Sting Ray over there after school. I went home and told my parents all about it. We went over after dinner to look at it. They said it was the most impractical/ugliest car ever. I told them it would be worth a lot of money someday. They said no way and blew me off. Well...
That Schwartz chassis was a
bit more than that... that $9500 was their
BASE price. ;) I ended up with a full course meal there. But it's ALL done. I was looking around at chassis's for quite a few years and glad I settled on this one. Glad you liked my "Wood Years". Schwartz is the only company that ships this way. Makes sense to me.
I'll end up doing Janik's composite rear window more than likely. Not the best. But like I mentioned... I can drill through the plastic better than the tempered glass.
I thought I'd might be shunned around here for what I'm doing. :shruggy: But it isn't exactly a "number's matching" '70 Charger prime unit to begin with.
Yes to Ramcharger Central! They are the most knowledgeable group of characters I've meet on the internet. When it comes to Mopar trucks... there's no one better out there.
"I thought I'd might be shunned around here for what I'm doing"
Not by me, I love it!
Good luck with your fantastic progress :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs:
Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on January 27, 2021, 12:52:59 PM
"I thought I'd might be shunned around here for what I'm doing"
Not by me, I love it!
Good luck with your fantastic progress :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :2thumbs:
Thank you!
I appreciate that.
Hey Kurt. Glad to see you made it over here. As I mentioned on the RC board, some very knowledgeable folks over here when it comes to wing cars, or anything Charger.
Quote from: NHCharger on January 27, 2021, 10:23:24 PM
Hey Kurt. Glad to see you made it over here. As I mentioned on the RC board, some very knowledgeable folks over here when it comes to wing cars, or anything Charger.
Oh no!
Ramcharger Central is infecting DodgeCharger.com! :icon_smile_wink:
Only two ways to get a Daytona my friend?
Win the Lotto or build a clone!
503 made, maybe 400 still exist?
Nearly 8 billion people on the planet, half of them have got a driving licence.
If one percent want a Wingcar-Mopar then there's gonna be a lot of CLONES! :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
be like Seb, start 'em young...Viva la France!
Quote from: aerolith on January 28, 2021, 06:09:43 AM
Only two ways to get a Daytona my friend?
Win the Lotto or build a clone!
503 made, maybe 400 still exist?
Nearly 8 billion people on the planet, half of them have got a driving licence.
If one percent want a Wingcar-Mopar then there's gonna be a lot of CLONES! :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:
be like Seb, start 'em young...Viva la France!
Oh I started mine young.
My daughter is now 40. And shes owned 4 Challengers already. A '73 when she was in high school. A 2010 Classic R/T. A 2016 Shaker hood. Those last two she wore out driving a bunch. Now she has a 2019 SRT T/A...
(https://i.imgur.com/qYrhCQr.jpg)
My son, who is 37, is building a '41 Power Wagon that's finally almost done... https://ramchargercentral.com/mopar-trucks/my-son's-'41-power-wagon/ (https://ramchargercentral.com/mopar-trucks/my-son's-'41-power-wagon/)
My grand daughter is being indoctrinated into the Mopar fold to. She loves my truck... https://ramchargercentral.com/mopar-trucks/my-'74-power-wagon-i-ordered-from-dodge-on-873/ (https://ramchargercentral.com/mopar-trucks/my-'74-power-wagon-i-ordered-from-dodge-on-873/)
Shes a little scared of my sons '41... it doesn't have a windshield in it yet. :icon_smile_big:
Nice works
Aérolith thank you for my car and my son.
Quote from: XS29L9B2 on January 28, 2021, 10:10:45 AM
Nice works
Aérolith thank you for my car and my son.
Thanks!
That's your son? I thought Aérolith stole him. :icon_smile_big:
That's a really nice car, and son, you got there.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on January 28, 2021, 01:08:11 PM
Quote from: XS29L9B2 on January 28, 2021, 10:10:45 AM
Nice works
Aérolith thank you for my car and my son.
Thanks!
That's your son? I thought Aérolith stole him. :icon_smile_big:
That's a really nice car, and son, you got there.
Thank you , yes is my son thank for my car
Nothing to see here.
So we're back to work on the Daytona after a couple weeks worth of delays.
My son got the passenger side inner fender panel made up a few weeks ago. Today he got the drivers side done.
He loves playing with his bead roller. I need to get them both bolted up.
I temporarily installed the dash so we can move to the interior to install the roll cage next.
My ex- son in law told me today that I don't need the front support/ hood latch brace. I'll figure out how to build a Daytona soon. ;)
Also the headlight buckets are going quickly too.
Just leave it empty lol...
Keeps the engine cooler... :2thumbs:
Quote from: aerolith on March 16, 2021, 06:09:37 AM
Just leave it empty lol...
Keeps the engine cooler... :2thumbs:
I considered that.
But this thing is going to be a driver. And I wanted to protect the engine bay somewhat.
We started back again on the project finally after a long lull.
I pulled the fenders off and the inner panels my son built. So he could access the back side where they need to have mounts fabbed up. He cut off all the old mounts to clean that up...
He started on the roll cage while I did some stuff to his '41 Power Wagon.
Roll cage mocked up for welding...
https://youtu.be/tD8x2JZWo_4
That thing is looking GREAT Kurt! Thanks for posting
Bob
Quote from: taxspeaker on May 27, 2021, 08:43:54 PM
That thing is looking GREAT Kurt! Thanks for posting
Bob
Why thanks Bob!
Big plans are afoot.
I need to get this done before I get too old... or run out of money. ;D
I LOVE the plywood wheels!
Quote from: AKcharger on May 27, 2021, 09:56:33 PM
I LOVE the plywood wheels!
It's a simple solution that Schwartz Performance uses for transporting the chassis. And it works well. The other frame companies out there ship their product in a crate. Not conducive for easy movement.
reminds me of the good old days on Mythbusters with the manhole cover wheel episode, good times.
Quote from: armor64 on May 28, 2021, 08:34:54 AM
reminds me of the good old days on Mythbusters with the manhole cover wheel episode, good times.
And with about the same amount of traction. ;D
Mythbusters were great!
I was really concerned which way to go with the rear window plug. And then this happened...
But what are you going to use for the glass ??
Quote from: 70 sublime on June 19, 2021, 10:28:24 PM
But what are you going to use for the glass ??
Janak makes a composite piece that's the same as stock 500/ Daytona size.
Looking at that because I can run the glass straps easier that are required at Bonneville.
Nobody is making the original glass right now.
The guy that was making them as a side/ hobby project at his glass company in Los Angeles passed away about 2 years ago. And since then, nobody has started them up again.
Super-Cool that someone is making PLUGS!
But without a glass infill its a bit 'chicken and egg' situation. (one can't exist without the other).
Folks like the 'Vega hatch' design as its very close and of course, there is glass available...
Quote from: aerolith on June 20, 2021, 05:08:52 AM
Super-Cool that someone is making PLUGS!
But without a glass infill its a bit 'chicken and egg' situation. (one can't exist without the other).
Folks like the 'Vega hatch' design as its very close and of course, there is glass available...
I was looking at '67 Shiviit Impala rear window glass. It's big, fairly inexpensive and available.
BUT... being tempered, cutting it to size is very risky. At least that's what I've been told by experts.
So... I'm going to give Janik a call soon.
Still chipping away at the project.
A minor disaster happened a couple of weeks ago. Barrett, my son, was working on stuff in his shop and rolled the Daytona around for clearance. He parked it next to one of his roll up doors. He stopped for lunch in his house while he had a hose laying outside the door charged with water. It split open while he was in the house and sprayed water over the front end of the raw metal on the front of the car. And filled his garage with water. What were the odds? He dried it off immediately, but it instantly got a coating of surface rust. I'll wire wheel it off when I get a chance.
If we didn't live in the desert... I would have put a light coat of primer all over that bare metal. Of course, the body shop would have had to sand it all off anyways.
So, here we have what Barrett recently did mounting the new inner fender panels he fabbed up. Along with the hood hinge bracing. And the water job he did to the front of the car. :icon_smile_big:
I was concerned about the roll cage interfering with the glove box door. It looks like it'll clear fine. BUT... In my parts pile I don't think I have one. My friend, Sean Machado told me that door was a one year only unit made of plastic. And he doesn't have one either.
So if I can't dig one up I'll just cover it up. Or make a shelf there with a healthy lip to help keep things there. ;D
Kurt are you going to carlisle. Come to see me at bldg t or survivor tent. Ive got 3 or 4 daytona rear glass i think and a nos plug. Plug not for sale but can give exact measurements
Bob
Quote from: taxspeaker on July 02, 2021, 10:10:09 PM
Kurt are you going to carlisle. Come to see me at bldg t or survivor tent. Ive got 3 or 4 daytona rear glass i think and a nos plug. Plug not for sale but can give exact measurements
Bob
Bob!
Nope not going to make it to Carlisle. I've never been there... yet.
Thanks for thinking of me. And for your offer. AND... I will keep in contact with you depending which way I'll go for the final pieces to the puzzle. It's nice to know there are some rear glass still out there .
My plug I ordered from Stevens Performance should be here in a week and a half... should.
I went up to Barrett's yesterday... pretty much a Saturday thing... or an any opportune time that comes up.
I worked on his '41 Power Wagon carb tuning, (https://www.ramchargercentral.com/threads/my-sons-41-power-wagon.163391/) while he started on the rear wheel tubs in the clone.
A while back I mentioned I purchased the newly minted AMD widened rear wheel tubs. Another thing that helps with time... by not just adding to the width of the stock tubs by using a strip of metal grafted into the cut out (mini-tubs).
I ended up helping him mocking them up. Many trips in and out of the truck area by both of us.
And here's a shot of the new one on the passenger side totally fitted ready for welding.
Compared to the stock one on the drivers side...
And, of course, we had to remove the hinge set up for the deck lid. Which will need to be modified for the shorted Daytona situation.
Finally got back to work on the project last weekend.
It's been miserably hot and humid for quite a long time.
Saturday it dried up at least. Still hot, but bearable with a swamp cooler on high.
My son Barrett dove into the left wheel tub. And tacked it into place after massaging it into place. He also tacked the right one in.
Next on the agenda... I need to take my fuel cell up to his shop so he/ we can start building the truck floor around it.
More pictures when it happens.
Today was mock up day for the fuel cell and pre cutting for the mounts. Lots of thinking going on here.
This needs to happen to figure out the layout of the truck floor.
Ted from Steven's Performance called me yesterday. My window plug is done. But I'll have to wait a little longer for it. A fellow Mopar friend of his who lives near me is heading back there to deliver a car. To save a truck shipping fee... he thought it be best to wait for him to return with it. I agreed with that decision.
:coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Hey, very nice project! I went with the Alter-K-Tion front on my Bonneville Daytona. Car drove straight. I have thouvht many times about the Schwartz Performance chassis, great choice! I look forward to hearing how it performs!
Quote from: Lifsgrt on August 25, 2021, 10:37:21 AM
Hey, very nice project! I went with the Alter-K-Tion front on my Bonneville Daytona. Car drove straight. I have thouvht many times about the Schwartz Performance chassis, great choice! I look forward to hearing how it performs!
Hey. Thanks for noticing. i really like what you've done with your Daytona clone. And your exploits at Bonneville!
I'm going for a driver. I really want to enjoy this car. So it will be versatile.
FWIW, I put Lexan scratch resistant windows in my car from Pro Glass. The side windows including the vent windows fit very well put of the box. The windshield and back window (I think a Vega piece) also fit well, but are oversized so you have to cut them to size. Good quality stuff, just make sure you brace the windshield if going over 200mph! I have a 1970 glove box door I may noy be using if you need it. I plan to retrofit to 1969 dash pieces, which I also have.
I also recommend the A-pillar covers from DAYTONALO. They fit and look great!
Quote from: Lifsgrt on August 26, 2021, 09:07:52 PM
FWIW, I put Lexan scratch resistant windows in my car from Pro Glass. The side windows including the vent windows fit very well put of the box. The windshield and back window (I think a Vega piece) also fit well, but are oversized so you have to cut them to size. Good quality stuff, just make sure you brace the windshield if going over 200mph! I have a 1970 glove box door I may noy be using if you need it. I plan to retrofit to 1969 dash pieces, which I also have.
Yes to the glove box cover!
I'll talk to you tomorrow. I did get your phone number.
I talked to Sean today about the window bracing... a must! :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: Lifsgrt on August 26, 2021, 09:09:23 PM
I also recommend the A-pillar covers from DAYTONALO. They fit and look great!
Thanks for that tip. I'm probably not going to need the A- pillar covers. I'm shaving off the drip rails to eliminate that drag there.
BUT... if that doesn't do the job... I will look into those covers. I've been watching that post already here.
I was looking for side view mirrors for quite some time. I didn't really like the stock '68- '70 Chargers ones. They just really look like early 60's leftovers.
It's hard to find mirrors with a flat bottom mount because that's what those Chargers need to fit on the tops of the doors.
I found ones that should work from 521 Restorations. They're for a 70-76 Dart, Duster, Demon and 70 B Body Mopars. I saved my search about a year ago and decided last week to check on them. It's a good thing I did. They showed they only had one set left!
And, I now know, parts that run out, aren't replaced very quickly these days.
I received them today. It's something I don't need right away... but when I do... at least I have them.
Ummm the 70 Charger had that type of door mirror as an option
I thought the base of the mount had a bit of an angle to it to fit on the second gen door vs the later style
Maybe take the one mirror without the remote cable and place it on the door to see how it sits
Quote from: 70 sublime on August 30, 2021, 11:32:28 PM
Ummm the 70 Charger had that type of door mirror as an option
I thought the base of the mount had a bit of an angle to it to fit on the second gen door vs the later style
Maybe take the one mirror without the remote cable and place it on the door to see how it sits
My '70 was a "500", 383 car. Nothing special there. And it had a set of the old style chrome mirrors when I aquired it. So my car didn't have that option.
So that explains in the listing for a '70 B Body.
And your right. There's a small angle to them. I was referring to most all cars running around today, mount to the sides of the doors. I was looking for a "modern day" replacement initially.
I've got most of the parts together for the steering.
I went with Flaming River. They have a real basic tilt column in various finishes. Way more Mopar friendly than others when it come to selection.
All I lack now is the shaft/ u joints down to the rack unit. That should be fairly cut and dry.
Wow ! That's a lot of good work !! Looking forward in seeing the outcome.
Quote from: hemi68charger on September 01, 2021, 06:13:07 AM
Wow ! That's a lot of good work !! Looking forward in seeing the outcome.
Thanks.
Time... and of course, money!
I talked to my body/ paint guy I've picked out the other day. He's done a lot of custom stuff. In fact, that's pretty much what he does.
He's real excited to do a Daytona. It'll be his first.
:2thumbs: I have a Flaming River in both my 68 Charger and 69 Daytona clone. Nice units.
Quote from: NHCharger on September 01, 2021, 02:07:07 PM
:2thumbs: I have a Flaming River in both my 68 Charger and 69 Daytona clone. Nice units.
Most excellent!
So, while I've been working on my sons '41 Power Wagon... he's been on the Daytona.
He's been concentrating on the trunk area. That was probably the worst area for the rust.
And since we've never done a trunk in a B Body Mopar before... we were a little lost. I talked to my friend Sean Machado, who has done quite a few B Bodies, about where things go. He sent me some pictures which helped. But it was in one of his completed Daytona's. He was going to come up to my son, Barrett's house to point fingers, but I was watching a latest show of Graveyard Cars and they showed a Road Runner with it's rear fenders removed. The trunk pan was installed and you could see everything. That helped immensely for what needed to be done. We were having a hard time trying to figure out how the trunk floor extensions went in.
Problem solved...
He also tacked in the right rear quarter to see where he need to fit the passenger side trunk floor extension.
I worked on the rust issue on the old rear part of the frame by wire wheeling and using a rust preventative treatment on it. Also cutting off bad stuff and the old leaf spring mounts.
Manual labor stuff.
Here's something else I restored recently...
My parents bought me this in late '63. This is the second time I restored it.
I found out what these things are going for, so I put it back to stock specs.
It rides real nice.
Very COOL, love the car AND the bike.
Quote from: cdr on September 16, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Very COOL, love the car AND the bike.
Thanks.
Love your '68!
And the story behind it.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 16, 2021, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: cdr on September 16, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Very COOL, love the car AND the bike.
Thanks.
Love your '68!
So sorry to hear your friends with Sean , How do you put up with his huge HEAD :smilielol: :nana:
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 16, 2021, 06:30:37 PM
Here's something else I restored recently...
My parents bought me this in late '63. This is the second time I restored it.
I found out what these things are going for, so I put it back to stock specs.
It rides real nice.
I had the red metallic and my brother had the green one. Nice work.
Quote from: moparstuart on September 17, 2021, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 16, 2021, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: cdr on September 16, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Very COOL, love the car AND the bike.
Thanks.
Love your '68!
So sorry to hear your friends with Sean , How do you put up with his huge HEAD :smilielol: :nana:
That's nothing. He was married to my daughter at one point.
The reason for this build is pop his head. :icon_smile_big: Someone needs to put him in his place.
Kidding aside... he knows his stuff. Except, I can tune carburetors way better than he can. And my Daytona will be able to beat his Daytona
's
Quote from: tmaleck on September 17, 2021, 12:17:41 PM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 16, 2021, 06:30:37 PM
Here's something else I restored recently...
My parents bought me this in late '63. This is the second time I restored it.
I found out what these things are going for, so I put it back to stock specs.
It rides real nice.
I had the red metallic and my brother had the green one. Nice work.
All the guys in my neighborhood back in the mid 60's, all had Sting Rays. All different colors.
Then after a bit... the cheap Huffy's came out. Junk.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 17, 2021, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on September 17, 2021, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 16, 2021, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: cdr on September 16, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Very COOL, love the car AND the bike.
Thanks.
Love your '68!
So sorry to hear your friends with Sean , How do you put up with his huge HEAD :smilielol: :nana:
That's nothing. He was married to my daughter at one point.
The reason for this build is pop his head. :icon_smile_big: Someone needs to put him in his place.
Kidding aside... he knows his stuff. Except, I can tune carburetors way better than he can. And my Daytona will be able to beat his Daytona's
Oh no so sorry for you , you were related to him at one point . That must have been horrible .
Quote from: moparstuart on September 20, 2021, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 17, 2021, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on September 17, 2021, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 16, 2021, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: cdr on September 16, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Very COOL, love the car AND the bike.
Thanks.
Love your '68!
So sorry to hear your friends with Sean , How do you put up with his huge HEAD :smilielol: :nana:
That's nothing. He was married to my daughter at one point.
The reason for this build is pop his head. :icon_smile_big: Someone needs to put him in his place.
Kidding aside... he knows his stuff. Except, I can tune carburetors way better than he can. And my Daytona will be able to beat his Daytona's
Oh no so sorry for you , you were related to him at one point . That must have been horrible .
Have you met his dad? :smilielol:
They are knowledgeable characters.
Collecting parts because we need to see how things will fit together.
A Moroso On/ Off Battery and Alternator Kill Switch was the latest.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 20, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on September 20, 2021, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 17, 2021, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on September 17, 2021, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 16, 2021, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: cdr on September 16, 2021, 06:58:18 PM
Very COOL, love the car AND the bike.
Thanks.
Love your '68!
So sorry to hear your friends with Sean , How do you put up with his huge HEAD :smilielol: :nana:
That's nothing. He was married to my daughter at one point.
The reason for this build is pop his head. :icon_smile_big: Someone needs to put him in his place.
Kidding aside... he knows his stuff. Except, I can tune carburetors way better than he can. And my Daytona will be able to beat his Daytona's
Oh no so sorry for you , you were related to him at one point . That must have been horrible .
Have you met his dad? :smilielol:
They are knowledgeable characters.
yes !!
Barrett has almost all the pieces cut for the trunk floor area. He'll do some bead rolling on them. Some bracing will be added also. Along with miscellaneous small tabs/ fill areas. And the battery box will be recessed into the floor.
Then all will be spot welded/ seam welded into place.
More work on the trunk area...
Did I mention this before? I dislike posting pictures on this website.
Evidently, you can't post pictures vertically it throws the "oversize code".
So, I had to distort one of my pictures to make it legal. DodgeCharger.com really needs to get into the 2021 year.
For crying out loud... if the lowly Ramcharger Central can do it, certainly DodgeCharger.com can do it!
:scope: looking good :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
try this site https://picresize.com/ when it says what size do you want after up loading picture , select custom size from the drop down box , then type in the width box any where between 800 & 1000 next to the pixels box , scroll down & select format , Jpg then click on resize , then save picture
Quote from: tan top on September 30, 2021, 08:46:12 PM
:scope: looking good :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
try this site https://picresize.com/ when it says what size do you want after up loading picture , select custom size from the drop down box , then type in the width box any where between 800 & 1000 next to the pixels box , scroll down & select format , Jpg then click on resize , then save picture
Thanks for that info.
I'll give it a try next time I try to upload a picture.
Cool project! :popcrn:
Quote from: Hemidog on October 01, 2021, 01:14:01 AM
Cool project! :popcrn:
Hi Kurt, 07 October 2021
Finished reading this full thread. Fantastic project. You and your son are doing a fine job. Wishing you the best of luck with it.
What color have you selected for the body?
Thanks for the info you provided us.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
keep up the good work Kurt,
I did have a 73 Wagon myself too... :coolgleamA:
Wished I never sold her... :rotz: :-\ :'(
Quote from: Hemidog on October 01, 2021, 01:14:01 AM
Cool project! :popcrn:
Thanks for noticing. :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: 426HemiChick on October 08, 2021, 01:15:03 AM
Quote from: Hemidog on October 01, 2021, 01:14:01 AM
Cool project! :popcrn:
Hi Kurt, 07 October 2021
Finished reading this full thread. Fantastic project. You and your son are doing a fine job. Wishing you the best of luck with it.
What color have you selected for the body?
Thanks for the info you provided us.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Thanks for the kind comments.
My first choice was red. There's already 4 red Daytona's running around here in the Coachella Valley. Two clones. Two real ones.
I want this car to be obnoxious. So I'm going with one of the most obnoxious colors Mopar came up with... Citron Yella/ Curious Yellow with a red wing.
And to let all the purist know that this isn't a real Daytona.
That should be fairly obvious. ;D But the color should set that theory to rest.
And when my clone goes by someone, I want them to think "What the heck was that?"
And glad to be of help.
Quote from: aerolith on October 08, 2021, 03:21:29 AM
keep up the good work Kurt,
I did have a 73 Wagon myself too... :coolgleamA:
Wished I never sold her... :rotz: :-\ :'(
Do you know how many times I've heard that comment?
I always lecture the group over at Ramcharger Central to be wary about selling their trucks.
They say they get tired of this or that. Or there's too many things wrong with it.
I suggest they do what I've done to my truck these last almost 47 years when those thoughts come up to me.. Put a new radio in it! Reupholster the seat! Paint it! Put a new engine with more horsepower in it!
Anything but sell it!
Because in 3, 4 ,5, 6 years you'll be saying "I wish I never sold my old truck. Man I loved that truck!" :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 08, 2021, 11:27:00 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.
My first choice was red. There's already 4 red Daytona's running around here in the Coachella Valley. Two clones. Two real ones.
I want this car to be obnoxious. So I'm going with one of the most obnoxious colors Mopar came up with... Citron Yella/ Curious Yellow with a red wing.
And to let all the purist know that this isn't a real Daytona.
That should be fairly obvious. ;D But the color should set that theory to rest.
And when my clone goes by someone, I want them to think "What the heck was that?"
And glad to be of help.
Hi Kurt, 10 October 2021
Thanks for the info, we received the November issue of MCG Friday. Enjoyed the magazine, has a lot of good advertisers and articles. We subscribed for a year, will probably extend it once home in Laveen.
Your Daytona is coming along fine and looks great. Can't wait to see it when you have it finished.
Take Care.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Too True Kurt!
I sold my 73 manual truck to a friend as he was struggling with life!
He actually worked at a famous UK 'USA' dealership for Ford.
Got to work on all the those nice GT40 thingy's... :shruggy:
But his boss was a 'skinflint' and he struggled to make ends meet.
So I sold him the 73 truck (cheap) and it brought a smile to his face!!! :pity:
He was very happy for a while and then, totally 'outta da blue' 'had a stroke' so life can be cruel in may ways.
Back to Charger 500's and Daytona Clones... :coolgleamA:
The guy I bought my Charger 500 from, had already built a Daytona '22' clone.
Vey nice too and wanted me to buy her for $35,000, a lot of dosh back in 2003!
But he also had a 69 rolling Charger shell and the Daytona moulds too, for another project.
But out of the THREE options 'available' the Charger 500 was the definitely the BEST!!! :2thumbs: (at that time)
Now I'm thinking the Daytona project was 'more up my street' as an ex racer and NoN-resto kinda GUY! :slap: :scratchchin: :smilielol:
Difficult to make the right decisions sometimes??? :'( :'( :'(
For me it would have to be a Lunchbox clone lol... :pity: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
I always let the wife help me with my builds... :2thumbs:
Love the 'make-up' on the cheek... :patriot:
Quote from: aerolith on October 10, 2021, 04:15:50 AM
For me it would have to be a Lunchbox clone lol... :pity: :2thumbs: :coolgleamA:
I always let the wife help me with my builds... :2thumbs:
Love the 'make-up' on the cheek... :patriot:
Nice stories there!
That's a handsome couple there too!
Well, after a really long wait my rear window plug finally showed up yesterday...
I'll run it up to my sons shop so he can start stitch welding into place.
For us vega hatch fools could you measure how much metal is above the glass , how tall the glass space is and how much metal is below the glass ?
Just trying to decide how much of a metal spacer I would need to add at the top to get the glass positioned as close as an original one would have been using the vega hatch
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 27, 2021, 02:23:13 PM
Well, after a really long wait my rear window plug finally showed up yesterday...
I'll run it up to my sons shop so he can start stitch welding into place.
Things are looking really good.
By chance can you post a picture of the under side. I'm curious if it has any under structure supports.
Curt
Quote from: 70 sublime on October 27, 2021, 03:07:43 PM
For us vega hatch fools could you measure how much metal is above the glass , how tall the glass space is and how much metal is below the glass ?
Just trying to decide how much of a metal spacer I would need to add at the top to get the glass positioned as close as an original one would have been using the vega hatch
I'll get that for you. Give me a day.
Quote from: panhead on October 27, 2021, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 27, 2021, 02:23:13 PM
Well, after a really long wait my rear window plug finally showed up yesterday...
I'll run it up to my sons shop so he can start stitch welding into place.
Things are looking really good.
By chance can you post a picture of the under side. I'm curious if it has any under structure supports.
Curt
Sure. I tried with the top view... but this dorky, old fashioned web site said it was too big...
The 2nd picture is some channels that also came with it. Looks like the window channels to me.
This is all unfamiliar to me. I have Sean Machado to help if I need it. My son says "Oh, we don't need him!" Will see.
This unit is supposed to be "an exact replacement" of what Dodge came up with originally.
Will see.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 27, 2021, 06:07:44 PM
Quote from: 70 sublime on October 27, 2021, 03:07:43 PM
For us vega hatch fools could you measure how much metal is above the glass , how tall the glass space is and how much metal is below the glass ?
Just trying to decide how much of a metal spacer I would need to add at the top to get the glass positioned as close as an original one would have been using the vega hatch
I'll get that for you. Give me a day.
:2thumbs:
Quote from: 70 sublime on October 27, 2021, 03:07:43 PM
For us vega hatch fools could you measure how much metal is above the glass , how tall the glass space is and how much metal is below the glass ?
Just trying to decide how much of a metal spacer I would need to add at the top to get the glass positioned as close as an original one would have been using the vega hatch
Here you go. I hope this will help you...
:coolgleamA: :popcrn:
Thanks :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 27, 2021, 02:23:13 PM
Well, after a really long wait my rear window plug finally showed up yesterday...
I'll run it up to my sons shop so he can start stitch welding into place.
[
/quote] i think I would dry fit the glass before welding in. and do not urathane it use betuel .
Quote from: 69 500 on October 29, 2021, 08:19:43 AM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 27, 2021, 02:23:13 PM
Well, after a really long wait my rear window plug finally showed up yesterday...
I'll run it up to my sons shop so he can start stitch welding into place.
[
/quote] i think I would dry fit the glass before welding in. and do not urathane it use betuel .
Thanks for the pointers.
I don't have the "glass" yet.
I'm going to run a Janik composite piece because I'm going to strap it.
And besides... glass is somewhat unattainable at the moment.
where did you get the rear window plug ?
Thanks Charlie
Quote from: cdr on October 29, 2021, 05:24:45 PM
where did you get the rear window plug ?
Thanks Charlie
Hey Charlie!
If you go back to this post it should explain it all... http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,139275.msg1731666.html#msg1731666
Beware. This piece isn't cheap... not even close.
But it's a very accurate piece.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on October 29, 2021, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: cdr on October 29, 2021, 05:24:45 PM
where did you get the rear window plug ?
Thanks Charlie
Hey Charlie!
If you go back to this post it should explain it all... http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,139275.msg1731666.html#msg1731666
Beware. This piece isn't cheap... not even close.
But it's a very accurate piece.
LOL, I don't know how I missed that part, Thank you :)
Well, my cast alum wing was $2300 shipped, plus the trunk braces, nothing is cheap to build one of these. GREAT build you have there !!! I could build a plug myself if I had a sample to copy, I could by a Janak one & copy it but then I would be stuck with it & the money spent, I really dont want to use a fiber glass one because of cracking, I drive my car a lot & drag race it.
I bought custom glass from a fellow who used to supply glass for movie cars. He did the glass for the Fast and Furious Daytona. I broke a piece two years later and found out he had passed away but had sold his molds to another company when he retired. I was dealing with side glass but the new company as able to make me a new piece. I don't know if the rear glass is sized correctly but they probably have a mold. Anyway the company is Cinema Vehicles , 12580 Saticoy St. North Hollywood, Ca. 91605 1-818-780-6272.
Quote from: Stevearino on November 03, 2021, 07:18:11 PM
I bought custom glass from a fellow who used to supply glass for movie cars. He did the glass for the Fast and Furious Daytona. I broke a piece two years later and found out he had passed away but had sold his molds to another company when he retired. I was dealing with side glass but the new company as able to make me a new piece. I don't know if the rear glass is sized correctly but they probably have a mold. Anyway the company is Cinema Vehicles , 12580 Saticoy St. North Hollywood, Ca. 91605 1-818-780-6272.
Hey! Thanks Steve!
Yes, i knew about that guy... if it's the same one. He actually was supplying that glass to AMD.
I called AMD over a year ago planning my moves. They told me about him. And why they weren't getting the back glass anymore.
If? Maybe? I go that direction... I will check out that lead.
Good to know anyway!
My son is starting to attack the plug.
We talked about the original window opening a while back, and we were thinking we'll just removing it... made sense to us.
After looking at some original Daytona's, including some on this site, we noticed that they retained that framework? Okay. I talked to Sean Machado about this and he said that was correct.
Something about strength. Pooh on that.
Barrett and I think it looks dorky. He said he'll surely put some reinforcement behind whatever he removes. And tie it all together.
Here's the first picture of the plug... just laying there... :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on November 05, 2021, 09:28:12 PM
My son is starting to attack the plug.
We talked about the original window opening a while back, and we were thinking we'll just removing it... made sense to us.
After looking at some original Daytona's, including some on this site, we noticed that they retained that framework? Okay. I talked to Sean Machado about this and he said that was correct.
Something about strength. Pooh on that.
Barrett and I think it looks dorky. He said he'll surely put some reinforcement behind whatever he removes. And tie it all together.
Here's the first picture of the plug... just laying there... :icon_smile_big:
You really have some cool stuff going on there!!
Looking good :2thumbs:
Curt
Thanks Curt!
It's frustrating sometimes because I want this thing done NOW!
But, I realize it takes time for these kinds of projects. And I'm thankful my son is doing all the heavy metal work saving me tons of $$$ in the process.
I'm going to his "ranch" tomorrow to fix a couple of his trailers tail lights/ brake lights.
I work on his stuff... while he works on my stuff. :icon_smile_big:
Kurt
Barrett started to fix the old rear window channel problems.
He's making new panels where the sail panels/ window channels were.
The drivers side wasn't as damaged as the passenger side was. So he had to mimic what was a little better from the drivers side. A lot more fabbing involved there.
The last picture is the pile that's building up in the back seat area.
He informed me that was my job to clean up. :icon_smile_big:
Barrett really got into the rear window structure/ Dutchman panel yesterday.
Again, this area was the worst area for rust. The whole structure under the Dutchman was swiss cheesy and rotted out. Surprisingly the package tray/ speaker shelf was in decent shape.
After much discussion, we decided to eliminate that whole deal.
We now have a Charger "Business Man's Coupe". :icon_smile_big:
Now before some say "There goes the strength!"... Barrett is going to add side to side bracing under the panel. And will box in the ends down to the wheel tubs. And it will have the roll bar tubes going all the way back into the trunk. Along with the full frame which extends just past the rear axle. Then it ties into the old rear frame rails under the trunk floor.
And he will then run a full panel down to the floor board from the Dutchman. This will also give me the firewall required by some racing associations.
First picture... The Frankensteining in of the old rusted out sail panel area. See the previous pictures.
Second... The clear shot into the truck area with all the old underside, rotted bracing removed.
Third ... Where the fuel cell will sit.
Fourth... The bracing behind where the back seat used to go. This will be gone too. I'm putting bucket seats where the bench seat went. They will sit back a little further. And there will be room behind them for luggage. Since my trunk has become a fuel tanker.
Fifth... another mock up shot with all the old, damaged metal removed.
Quote from: Stevearino on November 03, 2021, 07:18:11 PM
I bought custom glass from a fellow who used to supply glass for movie cars. He did the glass for the Fast and Furious Daytona. I broke a piece two years later and found out he had passed away but had sold his molds to another company when he retired. I was dealing with side glass but the new company as able to make me a new piece. I don't know if the rear glass is sized correctly but they probably have a mold. Anyway the company is Cinema Vehicles , 12580 Saticoy St. North Hollywood, Ca. 91605 1-818-780-6272.
Well, I've been talking with Tyler over at Cinema Vehicles. He said he thought they had that mold. After asking the glass guy he said it looks like they don't have it after all.
Bummer. Because he said their glass guy is a wizard with auto glass. Tyler mentioned he could mold the holes for the window bracing. That would have solved an issue I needed done.
Looks like I'm having the same issues with the wheels I wanted to run.
Sheesh!
I ordered a big chunk of the kit from the Janak's the other day.
Barrett is still working on the trunk area.
I was up at his "ranch" Saturday helping him hold the metal for the trunk firewall he's die forming for it.
Pictures will follow once he ties the dutchman and other assorted pieces together.
:coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
Kurt.. Will the package tray structure be replaced? I would think it would supply additional strength and rigidity to the rear of the car...
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 30, 2021, 09:21:04 AM
Kurt.. Will the package tray structure be replaced? I would think it would supply additional strength and rigidity to the rear of the car...
My son, Barrett, will reinforce that whole area by by boxing in the sides down to the new widened wheel tubs where the package tray tied in with the sides originally. See the picture above.
He's going to run some small square tubing under the dutchman panel attaching it to that boxed in area for strength..
There will be a firewall also tying all those pieces together where there was nothing before. Stock just had the rear seat back there.
Not to mention, I now have a frame running from the front bumper area all the way past the rear axle that ties to the original rear frame area.
AND the roll cage will go trough that area tying the frame in the back.
We're removing the old V braces that were behind the rear back of the seat.
That all should make it stronger than stock.
All this will also give me some storage space for long trips. This is a good thing because the trunk is taken up somewhat with my fuel storage tank. :icon_smile_big:
Barrett's been chipping away at the rear trunk support area.
He finished the boxing in of the old "package tray" area.
This action really firmed everything up.
And it's like "third row seating" back there now.
Soon to start... the rear window plug.
will this have a back seat?
Quote from: mopar4don on January 04, 2022, 08:26:36 AM
will this have a back seat?
Yes. Going with two removable buckets.
:coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
More finishing out of the trunk area.
Those boxes are the "capping off" of the old package tray bracing.
If you look above at the last picture I posted, you'll see the inside portion of the same area.
Next he'll be adding a 2x3 rectangular tube piece from one side of the '"box" to the other side "box". This will give lots of support to the dutchman panel.
:2thumbs: looking good :yesnod: :coolgleamA: :popcrn:
Well, after months of delay, Barrett, my son, is finally starting to work on my Daytona again. He really got busy with work and a bunch of other things. And he whined about not getting paid for doing this work on the Daytona. Of course, I had to remind him of the numerous things I've done for him the last 40 years. :icon_smile_big: And just recently his windmill project that I helped put up in a 14 hour day.
I can understand not having money coming in while working for free on something. So we came to a compromise deal. He's going to really attack my car... unless something comes up where he needs to work on a project.
Progress...
He got the window plug welded in...
And fitting of the rear valance/ bumper/ tail light panel...
Barrett almost has the rear panel area done. And started the fitting of the trunk lid.
With the Daytona rear window plug , obviously one must cut the depth of the original lid. Barrett has been fretting doing the cut on the trunk lid.
So he dove into yesterday and realized it wasn't all that bad.
He also started the process of cutting and filling the bottom of the trunk lid...
Of course, I showed him a rear panel of a '68 Charger build in the latest Mopar Collectors Guide, and said I really like that setup. I think he's looking forward to doing it like that..
Just asking....but is there a reason for the base of the plug being so far forward (looks about 4 inches further up the roof line), past (in front of) the gas cap/filler?
MikeG
Quote from: DAY CLONA on August 15, 2022, 12:35:48 AM
Just asking....but is there a reason for the base of the plug being so far forward (looks about 4 inches further up the roof line), past (in front of) the gas cap/filler?
MikeG
Might be the angle of the picture?
Barrett mounted it flush to where the top of the sail panels ended at the roof line.
This plug is a direct replica of an original Daytona plug.
It filled the opening all the way down the sail panels from top to bottom.
Maybe your gauging the view from the open spot on the right side where he cut out some rust.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on September 07, 2022, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: DAY CLONA on August 15, 2022, 12:35:48 AM
Just asking....but is there a reason for the base of the plug being so far forward (looks about 4 inches further up the roof line), past (in front of) the gas cap/filler?
MikeG
Might be the angle of the picture?
Barrett mounted it flush to where the top of the sail panels ended at the roof line.
This plug is a direct replica of an original Daytona plug.
It filled the opening all the way down the sail panels from top to bottom.
Maybe your gauging the view from the open spot on the right side where he cut out some rust.
Your plug is definitely mounted high....looks like the top of the plug was cut off? (which is about 4" in width) your trunk leading edge should be before the gas cap (I assume that gas cap is in it's stock location?) FYI: the finished trunk lid side edges should measure 21 1/2 ", the finished trunk opening along the rear qtr edges INCLUDING the rear qtr potmetal caps installed, should measure approx 21 3/4"+, I only mention this so you don't get too far along, easier to make changes now...MikeG
You can also see in the trunk lid that you made to fit the hole is too long
The edge of your new made trunk lid has part of the shape that starts to taper in as it gets closer to the back window of the car
The trunk lid should be short enough enough all the taper part is cut off the lid
Good day Kurt,
Here is some measurement's that I have taken off my C-500 in regard to your widow plug.
Photo #1 this is from the top center of the windshield opening to the top center of the rear window opening of the plug.
Photo #2&3 Is of the lower half of the window plug (center)
Photo #4&5 Bottom corner of the plug to the end of the quarter with extension
I hope this helps; no disrespect intended
Curt
Yeah. My son cut off about 3.5 inches off the top of the plug. Something about the way it laid. :shruggy:
This is a clone... so I'll live with this.
Sean Machado told me he wished his truck lid was a little bigger every time he puts something inside of it. :icon_smile_big:
Barrett said we will move the gas fill and no one will notice... except for you guys. Oh well. I'm not running the stock fill lift off cap anyway.
Thanks for pointing out the errors.
Back at it.
Barrett's #1 welder is still up at the welder shop waiting for "The Factory" replacement switch.
He became such a squeaky wheel... they gave him a loaner welder. He has a few welders anyways, but the one he likes best for welding thin metal is still on the fritz.
So he started fiddling with the loaner and got it to work good enough.
He's attacking some of the skin cancer lately...
(https://i.imgur.com/pWHn1uql.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Q4ErXbol.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4Ru5SkMl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/q9j4hltl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4zV2Sdil.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rEjkezAl.jpg)
Drivers side..
(https://i.imgur.com/aTjY7Fkl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pW1VbDJl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dKjbOBhl.jpg)
He figured out the correct way to get the hinges cut and put together before I took a picture of Sean's original Daytona.
(https://i.imgur.com/yt0I2Fal.jpg)
And before you guys pointed out the error... Barrett already finished the truck area out... cleaned up the cancer around the truck area and finished up the trunk lid...
(https://i.imgur.com/YntOS3jl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LIrjqFKl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xKe4CONl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HdPTUJIl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/H1whcOel.jpg)
I finally found some exhaust tips I liked after searching quite a while. I needed to get them so Barrett can build them to fit into the rear pan area...
(https://i.imgur.com/wo5xMMnl.jpg)
Here is the almost completed drivers side rain gutter removal. Some tricky welding to eliminate those dudes...
(https://i.imgur.com/3WDpr2cl.jpg)
I ordered my wheels after some diligent searching.
My problem is I need 18" on all four corners because of the brakes. All kinds of choices for 15". Plus they need to be 12" wide on the rear and 9" on the front.
Not a lot of choices. I did find what I wanted style wise over 2 years ago. But they discontinued them.
So I found a compromise at U.S. Mags... they should be close to what I wanted originally.
I ordered them 6 weeks ago. They said 8 weeks. Soon.
I need to get them and the tires to check the fit on the front, inner fender wells. In case some trimming has to be done.
It's been a year last month I ordered my kit from Janick.
They've been having issues with their supply chain. They told me their wanting on some parts for the wing. And as soon as they get it they'll ship the kit to me.
I'm really tired of this supply chain issue.
:rotz: This web site is soooooo old fashioned. You can't delete post.
Or maybe it's me just being old, and I can't figure out how to delete. :icon_smile_big:
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Hi Kurt, 04 December 2022
Looks like you figured it out.
Project is looking great. One of these days I'd like to talk with you about a welder. I have been toying with buying a Miller Synchro Phase. I've had some work done with one and I loved the results. This is still down the road, have to finish the Knee Project first.
Best Always
Christine for the 426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on December 04, 2022, 04:51:54 AM
Hi Kurt, 04 December 2022
Looks like you figured it out.
Project is looking great. One of these days I'd like to talk with you about a welder. I have been toying with buying a Miller Synchro Phase. I've had some work done with one and I loved the results. This is still down the road, have to finish the Knee Project first.
Best Always
Christine for the 426 Hemi Chicks
Thanks for the kind words.
I'm an apprentice welder. I can do some stuff for myself that needs to be done.
My son is the expert there. He's the one you need to talk to.
Knee project?
I can help you there. I've had both of mine replaced. If that's what's happening to you... I can give you an earful.
Hi Kurt, 05 December 2022
Would love to talk knees with you. I need both replaced, doubt that they will do both at the same time. Both of mine are bone on bone and so worn that I have become drastically Knock Kneed. Didn't realize it until one day walking down the sidewalk with the sun to my back, I looked at my shadow and noticed the shadow of my legs looked like an "X". Got home and looked in the mirror and realized I had a serious problem. If I try to stand at attention like I used to do in the military, my knees touch and my feet are 6 inches apart.
I'm 9 days out from surgery, sometime the morning of 14 Dec 22.
I'll PM you with my info. Would love to talk with you and your son. When I was in high school, about 20 years ago . . . . or so, I took Metal shop which included welding. Loved doing it; my teacher was so proud of my welding that he hauled the stuff all over town showing it off. That was in the old days with a huge A/C motor driven D/C generator Welder. It was stick welding and did enjoy it. Now they have fancy computerized welders. My preference is TIG. I love the look of a good Tig weld. To me it's an art form I'd rather see than some painting hanging on a wall.
I'll PM you tonight. I'm busy getting ready for the first knee surgery. I have my pre-op the 9th and surgery 5 days later. Looking forward to getting a new set of Titanium hinges. If it's good enough for the SR71, it's good enough for me. Let me know a good time to call. We're on MST. I'd love to talk knees before the "Carpenters" start sawing away. I'm going to try and get them to let me watch the surgery, Doubt that they will.
I know I'll have long scars down the front of my legs from my thigh to my shin bone. Probably 12 inches long or longer that'll look like a railroad track. Good thing I prefer jeans and slacks, no shorts or, heaven forbid, skirts.
Thanks Amigo
Best Always
Christine for the 426 Hemi Chicks
My new wheels showed up today.
(https://i.imgur.com/ciHQ3Mlh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jgyzp5Nh.jpg)
I was surprised they got here when U.S. Mags said they would.
It took exactly 8 weeks.
Now I need to get the tires ordered. Get them mounted. Make sure things fit... or modify wheel wells for fitment.
Hi Kurt, 10 December 2022
Those wheels are almost exactly like what we had on our Daytona when we were driving it. They came off our Hemi Cuda, which we had a great dislike for. It ended up with leftovers.
When we had the sloted wheels on the Daytona it looked "Bad Ass" and it stayed that way while we were storing it. Eventually the tires would no longer hold air. When we decided to sell her, we used the front slots but Discount Tire would not mount regular tires on the rear slots as they were too wide, think 9 or 10 inches. So we used a spare set of wheels and had the same tires as we put on the front put on the rear.
The ones we had I believe were Anson. What I didn't like about them was the fact they didn't use Acorn wheel nuts. We had to spend extra effort centering each wheel, a real pain.
When we put the cars back together, we want a set like you have there. When we are ready, we'll bug you for info on where to order them.
On the knee front, we went to my pre-surgical checkup Friday, got there about 45 minutes early, they took my X-Rays then we sat, and sat, until we were an hour and a half late; the PA finally showed up, wasn't exactly overjoyed as we had another appointment at 2:00 PM the same day.
Turns out the PA was an absolute asshole. When we got done we headed home for our other appointment, a plumbing job.
After we were almost home, the the plumber was already there just as were were coming down the street. He was 30 min early, did a fantastic job and was on his way in an hour 30. We had new toilets installed in the two houses. They are the High Seat models, 19" bowl height. Easy on, easy off; they are ADA compliant. No longer have to sit there with my knees hitting my chin. Definitely not for folks with short legs.
After that chore was done I told Dena there was no way I was going to have the surgery by the folks where the asshole PA worked. He wouldn't answer my questions but expected me to answer his mundane BS questions. My surgery is planned for 1500 MST / 3:00 PM Wednesday 14 Dec. As soon as Monday rolls around I am cancelling all my appointments with them. I've come to the conclusion they're an Assembly Line operation. I'm going to write a post about the whole ordeal on my regular thread. We have yet to meet the doctor, get to do that just before the surgery. No way.
Anyway, I'll be off to find a new doctor for my knees next week. There's no way I'd trust those folks with my health and life.
Your Daytona is going to be one Bad Ass machine. Hope you get it finished soon. I'm sure you are anxious to get it done.
Take Care Kurt, thanks a bunch.
426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on December 10, 2022, 08:10:36 PM
Hi Kurt, 10 December 2022
Those wheels are almost exactly like what we had on our Daytona when we were driving it. They came off our Hemi Cuda, which we had a great dislike for. It ended up with leftovers.
When we had the sloted wheels on the Daytona it looked "Bad Ass" and it stayed that way while we were storing it. Eventually the tires would no longer hold air. When we decided to sell her, we used the front slots but Discount Tire would not mount regular tires on the rear slots as they were too wide, think 9 or 10 inches. So we used a spare set of wheels and had the same tires as we put on the front put on the rear.
The ones we had I believe were Anson. What I didn't like about them was the fact they didn't use Acorn wheel nuts. We had to spend extra effort centering each wheel, a real pain.
When we put the cars back together, we want a set like you have there. When we are ready, we'll bug you for info on where to order them.
On the knee front, we went to my pre-surgical checkup Friday, got there about 45 minutes early, they took my X-Rays then we sat, and sat, until we were an hour and a half late; the PA finally showed up, wasn't exactly overjoyed as we had another appointment at 2:00 PM the same day.
Turns out the PA was an absolute asshole. When we got done we headed home for our other appointment, a plumbing job.
After we were almost home, the the plumber was already there just as were were coming down the street. He was 30 min early, did a fantastic job and was on his way in an hour 30. We had new toilets installed in the two houses. They are the High Seat models, 19" bowl height. Easy on, easy off; they are ADA compliant. No longer have to sit there with my knees hitting my chin. Definitely not for folks with short legs.
After that chore was done I told Dena there was no way I was going to have the surgery by the folks where the asshole PA worked. He wouldn't answer my questions but expected me to answer his mundane BS questions. My surgery is planned for 1500 MST / 3:00 PM Wednesday 14 Dec. As soon as Monday rolls around I am cancelling all my appointments with them. I've come to the conclusion they're an Assembly Line operation. I'm going to write a post about the whole ordeal on my regular thread. We have yet to meet the doctor, get to do that just before the surgery. No way.
Anyway, I'll be off to find a new doctor for my knees next week. There's no way I'd trust those folks with my health and life.
Your Daytona is going to be one Bad Ass machine. Hope you get it finished soon. I'm sure you are anxious to get it done.
Take Care Kurt, thanks a bunch.
426 Hemi Chicks
I'm sorry for the ordeal your going through with the knee. It's good you figured out the problem before they put you on the table.
At least the toilets worked out. And I hope you can find a good doctor. You'd think being in the area where you are there would be one good orthopedic surgeon around. Instead of the Earl Schieb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Scheib (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Scheib) of knee replacements. Sheesh.
The wheels look like they are put together real nice. I'll test them to 240 and see how they work. :icon_smile_big:
They're 9" wide in the front and 12" wide for the rear.
I'm trying for Goodyear Supercars for the round black things.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on December 10, 2022, 11:28:32 PM
I'm sorry for the ordeal your going through with the knee. It's good you figured out the problem before they put you on the table.
At least the toilets worked out. And I hope you can find a good doctor. You'd think being in the area where you are there would be one good orthopedic surgeon around. Instead of the Earl Schieb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Scheib (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Scheib) of knee replacements. Sheesh.
The wheels look like they are put together real nice. I'll test them to 240 and see how they work. :icon_smile_big:
They're 9" wide in the front and 12" wide for the rear.
I'm trying for Goodyear Supercars for the round black things.
Hi Kurt, 10 December 2022
The PA was as arrogant as we have encountered in many years. He's a transplant from some third world country, another reason I was wary. He came on too strong, like he's going to intimidate me. All he did was give me the ammunition I needed to bail. I am going to try and find who heads up the organization so I can have a chat with him/her.
Dena's brother-in-law had both replaced the same day about a year ago. Going to ask him who he had do it and see if I can get an appointment with him right after Christmas.
Are you planning on hitting the salt with your Daytona? 240 would be a nice number and I'm sure you will make it. How much more work needs to be done before she can hit the road? We'd like to be there the day you take her out for the first time. Don't think you are too far from Phoenix, maybe 350 miles or so; an afternoon's drive.
You're lighting a fire under our buns to get our stuff together and go have some fun with it while we can still enjoy doing so.
Take Care, Thanks, God Bless, Wishing You, Your Family, Pets and Friends a Very Blessed, Happy Christmas and New Year !!!
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Like the old school look of those wheels.
Quote from: NHCharger on December 11, 2022, 04:18:37 PM
Like the old school look of those wheels.
Hi NHCharger, 11 December 2022
We agree, there's just something really cool about those slots. They aren't cluttered with useless do-dads, look strong and very muscular. Kurt's Daytona is going to be Bad-Ass as Bad-Ass can be.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on December 11, 2022, 01:01:52 AM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on December 10, 2022, 11:28:32 PM
I'm sorry for the ordeal your going through with the knee. It's good you figured out the problem before they put you on the table.
At least the toilets worked out. And I hope you can find a good doctor. You'd think being in the area where you are there would be one good orthopedic surgeon around. Instead of the Earl Schieb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Scheib (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Scheib) of knee replacements. Sheesh.
The wheels look like they are put together real nice. I'll test them to 240 and see how they work. :icon_smile_big:
They're 9" wide in the front and 12" wide for the rear.
I'm trying for Goodyear Supercars for the round black things.
Hi Kurt, 10 December 2022
The PA was as arrogant as we have encountered in many years. He's a transplant from some third world country, another reason I was wary. He came on too strong, like he's going to intimidate me. All he did was give me the ammunition I needed to bail. I am going to try and find who heads up the organization so I can have a chat with him/her.
Dena's brother-in-law had both replaced the same day about a year ago. Going to ask him who he had do it and see if I can get an appointment with him right after Christmas.
Are you planning on hitting the salt with your Daytona? 240 would be a nice number and I'm sure you will make it. How much more work needs to be done before she can hit the road? We'd like to be there the day you take her out for the first time. Don't think you are too far from Phoenix, maybe 350 miles or so; an afternoon's drive.
You're lighting a fire under our buns to get our stuff together and go have some fun with it while we can still enjoy doing so.
Take Care, Thanks, God Bless, Wishing You, Your Family, Pets and Friends a Very Blessed, Happy Christmas and New Year !!!
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Hang in there with the knee issues. You'll get it figured out.
I noticed you mentioned an issue with scars. Everyone I've seen, including me, scars are very minimal. Really just a fine line... maybe 6" long. A "three footer". Three feet away and you don't even see them.
Bonneville would be the goal. If it is still open. 240 is another "goal". The biggest goal is getting it finished. I know a lot of people who don't even get that goal finished. I don't want to be one of them.
Once my son gets the heavy metal done... it's off to my body guy. The body guy is anxious to do a Daytona (clone). So I'm hoping he moves quickly. I'll need to keep up with doo- dads and keeping the supply chain of the parts I need. Trying to think ahead. Things like the engine / trans/ seats/ wiring/ switches/ stereo... No time frame... other than just keeping the project moving. Once the body guy is done... I'll bring it back to my house and do all the final stuff.
I'm glad I inspired you two. Don't blame me on how much money you spend though. :icon_smile_big:
Yep. We live 5 miles from I-10. Your freeway too. We've been or driven though Phoenix many times.
You also have a good, healthy new year.
Quote from: NHCharger on December 11, 2022, 04:18:37 PM
Like the old school look of those wheels.
They weren't my first choice. I really wanted "holes". What are used on current and past NASCAR cars.
I talked with Bassett and Bart. They have the look I really wanted. And they were cheap. They only produced sizes up to 15". They did say they
might build bigger diameters soon.
U.S. Mags offered that type called the Baja. They were offered in many sizes like this "Indy" style I got. BUT they discontinued them just before I was ready to order.
These pills I got, weren't what you would call cheap. They build them to order. You know what that means...
And according to pictures I've seen in the past, they ran this style of wheel in NASCAR before.
Look at my "Daytona collection" for proof...
(https://i.imgur.com/V9KNHsVh.jpg)
Barrett's been chipping away at the rust spots and the passenger side rain gutter some more...
(https://i.imgur.com/JGe87abh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Nk5SiPbh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HlLp4WVh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IcyG70Sh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGBTXtVh.jpg)
looks like your bare metal is getting rusty. :scratchchin:
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 13, 2022, 11:12:37 PM
looks like your bare metal is getting rusty. :scratchchin:
Hi LEON, 13 December 2022
That's not rust, that's the patina that results from one's herculean efforts in building their Dream Daytona.
Looking good Kurt.
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Hi Kurt, 14 December 2022
Have a new Doc, will see him on the 21st. Probably only set back a couple weeks. If I had stayed with the original who knows what would have happened. I'm away from the jerk and that's what matters.
One of the questions I asked the PA was what you suggested: What choice in knees can I have? Ans: None !
Probably nothing on the surgery side until January.
Your work is looking good, hope we can get out there to see its first run.
Thanks for the suggestions. His answers said more than he realized. I'm hoping they fire him.
Best Always
Dena and Christine
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on December 10, 2022, 04:41:33 PM
My new wheels showed up today.
(https://i.imgur.com/ciHQ3Mlh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jgyzp5Nh.jpg)
I was surprised they got here when U.S. Mags said they would.
It took exactly 8 weeks.
Now I need to get the tires ordered. Get them mounted. Make sure things fit... or modify wheel wells for fitment.
nice wheels :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on December 13, 2022, 10:19:43 PM
Barrett's been chipping away at the rust spots and the passenger side rain gutter some more...
(https://i.imgur.com/JGe87abh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Nk5SiPbh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HlLp4WVh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IcyG70Sh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGBTXtVh.jpg)
:yesnod: :popcrn:
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 13, 2022, 11:12:37 PM
looks like your bare metal is getting rusty. :scratchchin:
Well, that wouldn't have happened if Barrett's water hose right outside of his roll up door didn't blow up one day 6 months ago. Sheesh.
Very light surface rust. We figured why primer when all they do is sand it all off before body work. Now a light sanding of the surface rust well be needed. :shruggy:
Here in this desert things don't rust normally. Normally.
Quote from: 426HemiChick on December 14, 2022, 09:59:49 PM
Hi Kurt, 14 December 2022
Have a new Doc, will see him on the 21st. Probably only set back a couple weeks. If I had stayed with the original who knows what would have happened. I'm away from the jerk and that's what matters.
One of the questions I asked the PA was what you suggested: What choice in knees can I have? Ans: None !
Probably nothing on the surgery side until January.
Your work is looking good, hope we can get out there to see its first run.
Thanks for the suggestions. His answers said more than he realized. I'm hoping they fire him.
Best Always
Dena and Christine
You have to watch the knee they install in you.
It's surprisingly how much payola is going on in the medical field. The doctors/ hospitals are paid to push a product. Beware!
Ask for Zimmer Persona! They have the tough stuff that last.
Watch out for the gimmicks.
Quote from: tan top on December 15, 2022, 07:25:44 AM
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on December 10, 2022, 04:41:33 PM
My new wheels showed up today.
I was surprised they got here when U.S. Mags said they would.
It took exactly 8 weeks.
Now I need to get the tires ordered. Get them mounted. Make sure things fit... or modify wheel wells for fitment.
nice wheels :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on December 13, 2022, 10:19:43 PM
Barrett's been chipping away at the rust spots and the passenger side rain gutter some more...
:yesnod: :popcrn:
I really wanted "the holes". Nobody offered those in the sizes I needed.
I saw a picture of someones clone project that had "the holes"... in 15". They were some current "truck wheels". They looked exactly what I wanted... very aggressive... no 18".
Moving on down the line...
(https://i.imgur.com/xlFjRK9h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/w3J57yEh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EPxplOxh.jpg)
Notice the filled door handle holes.
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on December 18, 2022, 07:44:29 PM
You have to watch the knee they install in you.
It's surprisingly how much payola is going on in the medical field. The doctors/ hospitals are paid to push a product. Beware!
Ask for Zimmer Persona! They have the tough stuff that last.
Watch out for the gimmicks.
Hi Kurt, 18 December 2022
Thanks for the heads up. We see the new Doctor this coming Wednesday 21 December 2022. We're hoping he's straight up. The previous Doctor we're not too sure about him one way or the other. What happened was between us and his PA. That guy is the biggest A-Hole we have encountered in our long careers in Engineering and dealing with the Government and private industry. The review we wrote, published in our thread, went to the top of the food chain within the hospital corporate structure. We hope they kicked him out. We think he was trying to push me around because of my age. Unfortunately, sometimes older folks are afraid to push back. We aren't dead yet and will not tolerate anyone pushing us around.
If things don't go the way we want, we'll just go back to Fort Worth and see the doctors there. One of the things they stopped doing is using General Anesthesia about 15 years ago because of the real danger it poses to older patients. Some folks never recover from it. The last two times I had it, it took about two months to get my mind back in order. I started researching it and found that it poses an extreme danger. The only time I would have to relent would be Open Heart Surgery; there are no other options; also with emergency surgery, one may not have a choice.
Thanks a lot Kurt, you have been a big help. When I asked the PA your question on: What options do I have on selecting a Knee?" When he answered: "NONE" I knew we were going to drop this jerk. In his boss' defense, he may not know what his PA has been up to; he does now and we hope he and the hospital are rid of the jerk.
One of the questions on the survey was: "Can we post your comments online?" I said "SURE!!!" Have a feeling they chose not to.
Your Daytona is progressing nicely. Sure do like those wheels; they are exactly what we have been wanting for our Hemi Road Runner, just didn't have a clue where to find them until you posted photos of yours.
You are so right about Rust and the Desert, just doesn't happen there or here. It's now a year and two days since we got home. We have had sunshine all but maybe 20 days during that time. Yes, it's cool in the evenings but the days are still nice. It is the way our winters are.
Take Care Amigo, thanks for the heads up.
Best Always
Dena and Christine
I finally got the wheels AND the tires sorted out...
(http://i.imgur.com/FkhKeXml.jpg) (https://imgur.com/FkhKeXm)
(https://i.imgur.com/w8hRY4Fl.jpg)
It took a couple of tries from America's Tire to get the front tires the right size.
I'm taking them up to Barrett's soon to see how the fronts clear and how much trimming will need to be done... if necessary.
285/ 40 x 18" on 9" wheels in the front.
315/ 40 x 18" on 12" wheels in the rear.
And my Daytona kit finally showed up a few weeks ago.
I've been so busy with work... it sat until I had time to unpack everything.
My initial takeaway... nice quality fiber-glassing. The Janak's do a great job with these parts.
(https://i.imgur.com/xgKKg0Gl.jpg)
Hi Kurt, 17 February 2023
Looks like you have a huge chunk of the Daytona parts. From your comment the body parts must be high quality. We can see in photos they look very well built. We hope you get her done soon. Let us know when you get ready to fire her up and take her for her first romp. If we can we'd like to head over and watch her make her maiden voyage.
Looking forward to seeing your Daytona on the road.
Take Care
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on February 17, 2023, 02:45:28 PMHi Kurt, 17 February 2023
Looks like you have a huge chunk of the Daytona parts. From your comment the body parts must be high quality. We can see in photos they look very well built. We hope you get her done soon. Let us know when you get ready to fire her up and take her for her first romp. If we can we'd like to head over and watch her make her maiden voyage.
Looking forward to seeing your Daytona on the road.
Take Care
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Maybe I'll just head to Arizona for a shakedown...
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on February 18, 2023, 01:15:32 AM
Maybe I'll just head to Arizona for a shakedown...
Hi Kurt, 18 February 2023
Hey, you're welcome here. We have lots of room.
17 Days and the knife and saw come out. Looking forward to getting rid of these worn out hinges. The Doc said I'd gain a bit of height. That was encouraging.
Take Care Kurt
Best Always
Christine for the 426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on February 18, 2023, 05:21:10 AMQuote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on February 18, 2023, 01:15:32 AM
Maybe I'll just head to Arizona for a shakedown...
Hi Kurt, 18 February 2023
Hey, you're welcome here. We have lots of room.
17 Days and the knife and saw come out. Looking forward to getting rid of these worn out hinges. The Doc said I'd gain a bit of height. That was encouraging.
Take Care Kurt
Best Always
Christine for the 426 Hemi Chicks
Hopin' and a prayin' all goes well with the new knees.
A fairly common surgery these days.
Work them regularly after they're installed. :icon_smile_big:
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on February 20, 2023, 12:48:45 AMHopin' and a prayin' all goes well with the new knees.
A fairly common surgery these days.
Work them regularly after they're installed. :icon_smile_big:
Hi Kurt, 19 February 2023
Thanks for the Blessings and encouragement. I'm really looking forward to having the new knees installed. The OE hinges have served me well through 82.5 years of "Ballet Dancing." I want to stick around for at least 17 more years. The aftermarket Strikers the Surgeon is going to install should last 35 years. I told him I'm going to hold him to it.
What has really been encouraging is my surgeon has seen me twice and will see me again about 8 days before surgery and then the morning of surgery before I go in the Surgery Suite.
The first surgeon I had never saw me, only his two lackey PA's, the last of which was a real AH. I wasn't going to see the surgeon until just before surgery.
So far everything is working out well and I think it will continue to do so.
If you get here we have lots of room. With 8 bedrooms we can always find a place where you can hang your Colt 45's.
We're looking forward to seeing you and your Daytona.
Thanks Again
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
t's been a while since I've been up to Barrett's to do some stuff on the Daytona.
Today I got a chance.
We figured out the new hinges for the hood. Barrett's been concerned about how they would work out. He worried for nothing. Surprisingly, there wasn't any issues. But I didn't get a picture of them. Next time I get up there I'll get a shot.
I did get the wheels/ tires on the car to check the fit...
(https://i.imgur.com/hfP2WP6l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3ZYg93Rl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yGNUeHjl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/V1HFmZal.jpg)
The front fenders will need a little clearance because of interferance. Not all that much though.
We also got the wing mocked up...
(https://i.imgur.com/hslDLPZh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LknZQe6h.jpg)
Good day Kurt,
Looking good!!! :2thumbs:
Curt
Hi Kurt, 09 March 2023
Looks like your Daytona is moving along quite well. The wheels and weenies look great. Do you think your wheels and tires would fit a 68 Hemi Road Runner without our having to make modifications to the body?
Our plans are to only make mods that can be bolted on. If at some point in time we decide to sell it, we can supply everything that will restore the car to original if that's what the buyer wants.
Can't wait to see your Daytona when she's ready.
Take Care
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
Quote from: 426HemiChick on March 09, 2023, 12:20:43 PMHi Kurt, 09 March 2023
Looks like your Daytona is moving along quite well. The wheels and weenies look great. Do you think your wheels and tires would fit a 68 Hemi Road Runner without our having to make modifications to the body?
Our plans are to only make mods that can be bolted on. If at some point in time we decide to sell it, we can supply everything that will restore the car to original if that's what the buyer wants.
Can't wait to see your Daytona when she's ready.
Take Care
Best Always
426 Hemi Chicks
I don't think they would fit a stock B Body.
The front wheel wells will require some radiusing. The rears have room left over probably because of the narrowed rear axle and the AMD wheels tubs.
looking good :drool5: :yesnod: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
It's been way to long for an update.
After much discussion... Barrett and I decided it's best to get the car to the body guy.
I have talked to Eric, the owner, for over a year now. This guy seems to be really on it. I've seen a lot of his work and it's pretty spectacular.
And he has a lot of really good ideas. And he can apply them to what needs to be done to my car. Plus, he's really excited to work on a Daytona. Even though it's not a real one! :icon_smile_big: He considers this as bragging rights.
As soon as we took it there... he had a plan formulated. He laid out what he's going to do the first week.
That's another reason why I decided to take it there because Barrett is a swamped with work and he doesn't get enough time to work on my car.
(https://i.imgur.com/sBbmUSTl.jpg)
When I went there the other day... he was crawling all around the car. And on the floor analyzing the underside. Asking me questions of what I wanted on the underside. He came up with multiple options. Talking a mile a minute. ☺
We even talked about the dash, center console, roll bar, trunk lid, paint code, Daytona callouts, tires/wheels, side mirrors, hood issues, console shifter, cup holders, stereo system, speaker location, heater hoses/ air conditioning lines, nose cone, turn signal deletes, floor pan finish, rear seats, tailpipes through the valance.................................
Before we took it to Eric's... I've been trying to get the nose cone together.
When you assemble these things from scratch... it like a puzzle. Especially if you've never done anything like this before.
(https://i.imgur.com/emRWCfDl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6SMticEl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/klIYGMjl.jpg)
I've been visiting every 5 days or so. I ordered and then delivered steering components today.
Some progress pictures...
(https://i.imgur.com/2qWSaXHl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3i7csQkl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/twDscuQl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MsMsctZl.jpg)
And Eric's got the roll bar figured out. Along with the trunk lid. He wants to get the steering column mounted and working.
He's going to finish getting the drivers side down to bare metal. Then start aliening panels. Mock up the roll ball.
I've been talking to Indy Cylinder Heads about big engine components. Along with Whipple Superchargers. Getting ready to throw money at them soon.
I was up at Sean Machado's house the other day. I've been giving him parts off my '70 that I don't need . He's been giving parts I need. And a lot of good advice.
I asked him "What about the front turn signals?"
He produced these rare gems for me...
(https://i.imgur.com/3JO93ocl.jpg)
Nice to get the turn signals, they're getting harder to come by. :2thumbs:
Just so you are aware, Layson's sells reproduction lenses for these, I bought a set because of the hairline cracking in my lenses.
Quote from: Old Moparz on September 14, 2023, 12:39:05 PMNice to get the turn signals, they're getting harder to come by. :2thumbs:
Just so you are aware, Layson's sells reproduction lenses for these, I bought a set because of the hairline cracking in my lenses.
Thanks for that info!
Surprisingly those pills are in pretty good shape.
I'm trying to keep ahead of the progress going on.
I've got the block and heads ordered from Indy Cylinder Heads. They should be ready soon.
And my supercharger parts showed up from Whipple last week. These are the unit with the throttle body and the intercooler...
(https://i.imgur.com/VJXjfZcl.jpg)
All this so I can mock up these pieces to make sure they fit. Or make them fit if that's the case.
Another shot into of the intake side of the blower...
(https://i.imgur.com/MAypsTKl.jpg)
And the underside of the intercooler...
(https://i.imgur.com/hgrCvJNl.jpg)
Some more of the latest.
Roll bar is pretty much mocked up. Lacking the back kickers.
(https://i.imgur.com/W8Zyhx1l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LRZ0wadl.jpg)
Eric got rid of the under structure of the hood. It was rotted out all along the front part anyways. He'll add his own bracing when it's decided what's going to happen with the hood.
Because of that big weight savings... the hydraulic struts that came with the Eddie Motorsports hinges were way too strong. He'll use way less stronger units.
(https://i.imgur.com/5UTX4Jzl.jpg)
He's been lining up all the body parts.
Here's the nose cone/ hood lined up...
(https://i.imgur.com/uyVrlwFl.jpg)
He got rid of the fiberglass Z Brackets. He bent some lightweight units out of aluminum.
(https://i.imgur.com/KLlbeOsl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cjs0fSil.jpg)
This along with the new aluminum latch tray... which will provide access to the "air tunnel" to the radiator and coolers. And allow mounts for the hood pins...
(https://i.imgur.com/48NBHwAl.jpg)
A key component for the mocking up the engine in the bay showed up...
(https://i.imgur.com/DoTKSYWl.jpg)
These are TTI units with 2 1/4" primary tubes and 3 1/2" collectors.
They make my 1 7/8" tubes on my truck look small.
I had an ad from an old National Dragster magazine I tore out probably 8 years ago for a set of valve covers I knew I wanted for this build way back. It was from a company called Billet Fabrications.
I called them up. There were 3 different phone numbers I traced down. They all were dead ends. I finally e- mailed them. The owner responded back with the message they were out of business and sold all their equipment. I told him what I was looking for. He said he had one set of the Hemi covers still left... for a 392 Hemi. Rats!
So searching around I found a lot of the same cheap Chinese things that looked like some kid put together.
After an extensive search, I found what I was looking for... one company only making the ones I was after. They're for Top Fuel engine.
(https://i.imgur.com/2VQGBdrl.jpg)
I'm going to have to install a bung and cap for an oil fill location.
And make some sort of adapters for the old school NASCAR breather setup I'd like to run.
:2thumbs: good stuff :yesnod: :cheers: :popcrn:
Eric had my car in this paint booth for a while.
He decided to move it out for more working room.
He took these shots while it was out free...
(https://i.imgur.com/dfhJAq0l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JdeGDLLl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rPqII71l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/s0dz8snl.jpg)
Those Wood Year 'tires' are awesome! Car looks great too :icon_smile_big:
Hood pins are mounted...
(https://i.imgur.com/5sZ3dSnl.jpg)
Since the real Daytona stock cars ran three pins with center one laid bent on top of the crease in the hood... we determined It just wouldn't look right that way on the hood.
(https://i.imgur.com/m58xFhel.jpg)
So we decided to go with a symmetrical pattern.
To each their own, but I think 4 is overkill.
the three pin set up looks good & its what they use to run back in the day :coolgleamA: :yesnod:
think if i was building a charger daytona to run on the salt / top end stuff , would use the four pins same set up :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Quote from: WINGIN IT on November 11, 2023, 10:01:27 AMTo each their own, but I think 4 is overkill.
It shouldn't lift at 240. :icon_smile_big:
And since I'm not going to run the safety latch...
And besides... this car is pretty much just overkill.
I was talking to Sean, and he told me the the story of Bobby Alison who lost one of the three pins at the '70 Firecracker 400 race. And after that event.. they went to four pins.
Quote from: tan top on November 11, 2023, 04:45:32 PMthe three pin set up looks good & its what they use to run back in the day :coolgleamA: :yesnod:
think if i was building a charger daytona to run on the salt / top end stuff , would use the four pins same set up :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Yeah.
I was looking at Sean Machado's "race" Daytona. And that center pin over that hood crease just doesn't look right. :rotz:
Eric has the front almost completely mocked up.
He welded the roll bar up. And has moved to the back of the car.
Here he's started on the "end caps" that are normally just bolted on to the rear fender ends. Kinda cheesy looking stock. Looks like an add on.
I decided early on to mold them onto the fenders to make them look like part of the body for a more updated look. He agreed.
So here a shot of the first process on the passenger side. Along with my fuel cell, which he's going to re-mock up from what my son Barrett started on months ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/UbaIlk6l.jpg)
Latest front view...
(https://i.imgur.com/698FYXPl.jpg)
Quote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on November 11, 2023, 08:02:14 PMQuote from: tan top on November 11, 2023, 04:45:32 PMthe three pin set up looks good & its what they use to run back in the day :coolgleamA: :yesnod:
think if i was building a charger daytona to run on the salt / top end stuff , would use the four pins same set up :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Yeah.
I was looking at Sean Machado's "race" Daytona. And that center pin over that hood crease just doesn't look right. :rotz:
thats because Sean Machado is just not right
Quote from: moparstuart on November 21, 2023, 03:57:01 PMQuote from: KurtfromLaQuinta on November 11, 2023, 08:02:14 PMQuote from: tan top on November 11, 2023, 04:45:32 PMthe three pin set up looks good & its what they use to run back in the day :coolgleamA: :yesnod:
think if i was building a charger daytona to run on the salt / top end stuff , would use the four pins same set up :yesnod: :2thumbs:
Yeah.
I was looking at Sean Machado's "race" Daytona. And that center pin over that hood crease just doesn't look right. :rotz:
thats because Sean Machado is just not right
He's helped me out quite a bit.
But he keeps telling me that I'll never beat him around the track at Willow Springs. :icon_smile_big:
One's thing for sure... he'll be a very small image in my rear view mirror down the main straight... if nothing else. :smilielol:
I got the spool mounts for the Hemi...
(https://i.imgur.com/NiOd3Nul.jpg)
My block and heads are coming from Indy Cylinder Heads next week.
We'll mock things under the hood and check for clearance when my manifold shows up from Hogan's.
And the LED rear tail light units...
(https://i.imgur.com/Q64lxavl.jpg)
Some major engine components showed up today...
(https://i.imgur.com/ntI9zOsl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kETAEytl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/djrwPXql.jpg)
I can lift that block by myself.
(https://i.imgur.com/DlKgVCUl.jpg)
Cripes Kurt,
That INDY stuff is pure PORN!
Happy Christmas to you and hope to see your Super-car next year when I visit the Valley!
I'm sure you will be cruising Van Nuys and Reseda BLD lol...
Great build and ever so slightly jealous DOH!
Quote from: aerolith on December 24, 2023, 01:42:54 PMCripes Kurt,
That INDY stuff is pure PORN!
Happy Christmas to you and hope to see your Super-car next year when I visit the Valley!
I'm sure you will be cruising Van Nuys and Reseda BLD lol...
Great build and ever so slightly jealous DOH!
Thanks a bunch!
And a Happy one to you too!
After I got this block, I started to come across other Hemi blocks offered out there.
At first I was a little worried I might not have got the better of the blocks.
My worries were unfounded. I'm glad I "stumbled" upon probably one of the better units out there.
Eric is trying to get the interior metal wrapped up.
Welding up the gaps and unused holes.
And almost finishing the back firewall area.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z986O0Wl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GqNgNJMl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IrcKD94l.jpg)
He now has the back roll bars going to the back frame rails.
I'll get a picture of that soon.
We also got the bare engine block in the bay to see what's happening as far as clearances go. And then pulled it out.
And determined that a transmission needs to get ordered. So money is flying at Hughes Performance transmissions.
And we noticed the passenger side engine mount needs to be moved forward.
We also figured a dry sump oiling system might be the best route to go. A shallow oil pan with an oil reservoir. Instead of anything close to a deep sump with kick outs to get any kind of capacity needed. Not to mention issues with G- forces driving the oil away from a wet sump pickup.
Here's the "storage" units for the dry sump.
The crank driven, Gilmore belt, 3 stage pump is coming.
(https://i.imgur.com/mfZSyQCl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gtfvOCcl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KtdRL6il.jpg)
Still waiting on the transmission. Maybe a 3 week more wait from Hughes Performance.
I called Hogan's Intakes back in North Carolina... 2.5 weeks more from them.
Major holdups for mocking up the engine/ trans in the frame.
Another key component... and a pricey piece of the mock up puzzle.
A 1500 hp rated 4L80E, lock up billet convertor, manual valve body.
(https://i.imgur.com/7ha91BDl.jpg)
One good thing... the pricey pieces are winding down.
I took the block, trans and oil pan to Eric's shop today.
He want's to start mocking up under the hood and make sure the bellhousing will clear the firewall.
He's moving the frame engine mount on the passenger side because Schwartz Performance Chassis didn't place it like the offset Mopar setup.
(https://i.imgur.com/PG1WRDWl.jpg)
And when Hogans sends me the intake/ supercharger/ intercooler... we'll be able to put the heads on with the intake/ headers and check other clearances out.
Checking progress today.
My Daytona was airborne!
(https://i.imgur.com/W5WNEWul.jpg)
Eric noted that both engine mounts needed to be moved.
And the trans mount on the frame was upside down.
I'm glad he's finding and fixing these errors now.
The reason for the mock up process.
Eric made sure I knew that everything under the block/ oil pan and trans was padded very well. :icon_smile_big:
Now if Hogan's would let me know if my intake is done yet.
Eric has the block and trans mocked up in place...
(https://i.imgur.com/76TmDfpl.jpg)
He had to clearance the firewall and tunnel. We kinda knew this would happen...
(https://i.imgur.com/deWJvmXl.jpg)
He stuck the whole assembly a bit lower and a bit back from stock. Which should enhance handling somewhat.
:drool5: :coolgleamA: :2thumbs: :popcrn:
(https://i.imgur.com/LEhjTS7l.jpg)
Initially we were concerned about the passenger side header clearance. Well, it slipped right in!
The drivers side is an issue somewhat.
The steering shaft is in the way. Eric said it is an easy fix. He says that about everything. :icon_smile_big:
Just have to move a few of the tubes... that's all.
I also am going to run a mini starter over to him to make sure that fits before any more modification.
A few shots of those mods...
(https://i.imgur.com/p7Zf5FJl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/N2VZgbbl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MkgQw6Il.jpg)
And some views from above...
(https://i.imgur.com/HzEwQz0l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/o3JkNaZl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Vqz9Zd9l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/C7L16Ydl.jpg)
Eric said maybe I should get a "clocking" starter. I mentioned this is a Mopar and the starter mounts very close to the block. looking at it further he concluded that the mini starter I brought him this morning should clear fine. :yesnod:
Good day Kurt :icon_smile_big:
I see that great strides are being made. I bet your starting to get excited as things come together.
Curt
Quote from: panhead on March 22, 2024, 07:21:37 PMGood day Kurt :icon_smile_big:
I see that great strides are being made. I bet your starting to get excited as things come together.
Curt
Indeed!
My friend Eric is cranking on my car. I love his ideas and his work.
He has about 7 cars in his shop... each one at different stages.
Yesterday he pointed at each one of those cars and said "See these cars? All I want to do is work on your car because it's the coolest one in here!" He said once we get this stuff mocked up to make sure it fits... things will go fast.
I'll get the engine out to my builder to get the long block assembled. Hopefully he won't take many months to get that done.
The biggest hold up was waiting for those big ticket parts that are all here now... except for my intake.
I called Hogan's Intakes a week ago. Tim told me one more week. Come on Tim!
He called my intake "The Intense Intake!" :icon_smile_big:
A new revamped fuel cell that fits way better than the first.
(https://i.imgur.com/W4PhYa6l.jpg)
Eric figured the first one could work, but it wasn't the right deal.
He drew up a design on a piece of paper and I sent it to Pyrotect Fuel Cells. The guys at Pyrotect said his drawing with dimensions would have been 65 gallons!
So it was shortened up a a bit. The final figure now is 34.5 gallons.
He mocked it up the other day so the exhaust can be sorted out...
(https://i.imgur.com/CNOR2tGl.jpg)