Wonder what became of this 69 Daytona

[nascarxx29]

It was from a 1975 wingcar newsletter.All we know to date is that it was in AL and Bryson Hills .I recall  hearing that Stephens mopar salvage yard which is also .In Alabama had or has a demised daytona in its possesion.Wonder if this is the car in the yard.Anyone know of this cars fate

[Charger_Fan]

That's a sad sight.

[mustanghater]

What color is it? Even though the pic is black and white by the tone of the sun light on the car I'd guess its bronze?

[nascarxx29]

Not bronze looks red

[Shakey]

My guess would be red or orange! 

[nascarxx29]

Im wondering if its the cal gas daytona .As this short paragraph describes.And both cars have a white wing[[[In 1977, the Daytona was involved in a wreck that left the [nose cone damaged on both sides and one fender dented]. The car sat until late 1979, when it was finally shipped to a body shop in Bloomfield, Missouri. During the years it sat at the body shop, it developed a bad case of rust in the quarters and the engine froze up]].

http://wwnboa.org/cgd.htm

[hemigeno]

I don't think so, since the same article says that the car was orange from the factory, got painted blue, and had been repainted yet again in bronze when the accident happened in '77.  The article also says that when it was repainted bronze the owner left the stripe off.  I suppose when the accident happened the car would not have had a stripe on it, as the one in the photo from AL has.

Didn't you mention that the photo was from '75?  If so, then the CalGas car was probably still on the road, wearing either blue or bronze paint from what the NBOA article says...

Guess there were several cars that met their (temporary) demise in that fashion.  That's a close match, but I personally think it's a different car.  If the values had not skyrocketed, the ones that were damaged like the one you posted the picture of and the CalGas Daytona would almost certainly have been left to rust away to nothing.

[69_500]

If I'm not mistaken the CalGas Daytona is now in New Zealand. I believe that it has been restored back to origional condition as well.

That car in the picture looks like it took a pretty hard hit that is for sure. Don't know if it would have even been thought of as being repairable back in 1975, considering it was only a 6 year old car was probably listed as totaled and sent on the way of the junkyard. I remember a Daytona being in the junkyard here in Indiana when I was really little that only had damage to the nose cone but was in the junkyard. That car wound up being pulled out of the junkyard and is got back on the road.

[chrisII]

  while on the subject of destroyed wing cars, anyone know what happened to the super bird that was destroyed in a fire with like 30 other classic cars , in lake mills WI? this was like 7 years ago, and made the cover of MCG. the guy is a collector of indy pace cars and i remember him having a chally convert pace car parked in that shed several years prior. at one point i almost had a job as his mechanic when i was like 19. the building was really set up wierd. on the north end was the mechanic shop , where the cars and his lp powered step vans , used in his drycleaning buisness were worked on. then there was an area like 30 x 100? that was all car storage. then on the other end was a body shop where the cars were restored, and some body and paint work was done.

[nascarxx29]

Story was it was a parade pace car of some type.And the garage blew up when heater kicked on

[chrisII]

yes, i know the story quite well. the cars in storage were  mostly cars not of museum quality, or cars being rotated out of the museum.  what i was wondering is what had happened to it after the fire. the pic you posted is obviously after it was pulled out of the buildings remains. the most current one that MCG had i think was still in the burned building. I would hope somebody did something to bring this car back, even tho it would seem like it would nead to be "rebodied"  the last time i took a drive down that rd there was nothing there at all so i dont know if the shop was ever rebuildt. the fire was caused by a leaky LP tank on a truck igniteing when the heat kicked on after the over head door was opened.

[Ghoste]

Since we are talking about totalled out wing cars,and even though any pics might be less graphic, has anyone heard much about cars that were submerged by Katrina last year? 

[694spdRT]

Since we are talking about totalled out wing cars,and even though any pics might be less graphic, has anyone heard much about cars that were submerged by Katrina last year? 

I have been watching many go through the Copart auction's. The last was I found was a nice looking '72 Challenger.

[chrisII]

Since we are talking about totalled out wing cars,and even though any pics might be less graphic, has anyone heard much about cars that were submerged by Katrina last year? 

I have been watching many go through the Copart auction's. The last was I found was a nice looking '72 Challenger.

did you buy it? or at least try? that car looks bad azz

[694spdRT]

According to the site I don't think the auction has happened yet. I will not be bidding anyway because it is too far away but, I hope someone can save it.

[Ghoste]

As long as they are upfront to people about what they are buying.  Those could be some bad projects a few years down the road.  Saltwater submersion will do that to a car.

[694spdRT]

As long as they are upfront to people about what they are buying.  Those could be some bad projects a few years down the road.  Saltwater submersion will do that to a car.

Copart is an insurance company auction so they are upfront about it. I would imagine that all of the Katrina cars have titles branded going through the auction as the insurance companies don't want the liability. Where they go once sold is another thing. The ones to really worry about are those that were flooded but, kept by the owners. The titles may very well not be marked.

The main problem with one's like this Challenger is that they have been sitting for a long time now after the salt water flooding. The corrosion issues will not get any better with time. Anyone buying these had better figure on replacing/rebuilding nearly everything mechanical, electrical and interior wise. The body will be the main issue as the salt has penetrated nearly every nook and cranny. 

[69_500]

I would think that if you did something with those cars right away you would be alright. I could be wrong though. In the long run I think it has about the same chance to survive as any old car did being sold new in the North. Where they salt roads all winter long.

[Ghoste]

I don't know, I tend to think that a saltwater submersion is gonna be a lot worse than the northern spray.  At the very least it's a much accelerated version of the salted roads.

[69_500]

I was thinking more along the lines of the salt effecting these cars back in the late 60's and 70's when they were nothing more than a used car. Consider how many of our cars were bought by young kids who beat them and trashed them. So you would figure not many of them bothered with actually washing the undercarriage after driving it on the salty roads back then. Things like that.

[Arthu®]

Well about the salt water issue, I would think that if you would have just taken out the interior and the battery as soon as it had happend. And you would have hosed it down very well with regular water than you would have far less problems, drill a couple of holes in the floor and make sure you hose everything down. There is no hazzard of ruining anyways as you can already conisder it ruined.

Arthur

[Ghoste]

I was thinking of all the salt up inside the frame rails and in the bottom of door panels and 1/4 panels.  It'd be a HUGE task to get it all out with anything short of rotisserie resurrection.

[hemigeno]

I agree with Ghoste... 

Apart from immersing the car up to the same level in something to remove or neutralize the salt, how do you get rid of it in all the concealed areas?

[Arthu®]

That is what I said drill holes. In the frame rails and all the other concealed area's. I know it's a far from perfect solution, but will eventually keep the car a lot longer on the road than it would if you did nothing. Eventually no matter what you do the car will be scrap, salt is just a real bitch to metal. So I would clean it all up as good as possible, enjoy it for the years and when it would start to rot too bad. Then you can always decide to toss it or restore it. Depends on the level of rot.

Arthur

[Arthu®]

Btw I have experience with this except for the fact that it wasn't salt water but regular. It was an older beetle that hit a pole and nose dived into a pond. We took the interior out, drilled holes in the frame rails, doors, quarters than started digging all the sand and soil (sp?) out with loads and loads of water. Luckily it was summer and a black car so it got pretty hot. Than we steam cleaned it inside out. We took the plugs out of the engine and let the water run out, changed the oil, dried up all the parts put in a battery and voila it was working again. Sure it was a good 2 days work cleaning it up and yes there is probably still some moisture left in the frame rails and quarters, but it is pretty dry inside and so far hasn't developed any kind of extreme rust issues or smelling issues as of yet. This car has been on the road again for a year and a half now.

Arthur

[Arthu®]

Btw you probably tried this and it was a long shot but I tried searching the white pages for a Bryson Hill in Alabama and it came up with a Bryson Jr Hill in Toney Alabama. Well he might be the son of the owner. Btw the white pages only came up with one Bryson Hill in the entire state of Alabama, maybe his dad the owner already passed away.

Arthur

[nascarxx29]

Phonebook results for bryson hill al
Bryson Hill Jr, (256) 828-1957, 10285 Pulaski Pike, Toney, AL 35773 .I  never called or wrote to inquire.But same name and town