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Plastic Chrome Platers: Any Suggestions? **PICS ADDED**

Started by bill440rt, November 20, 2013, 10:06:15 PM

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bill440rt

Yet another project is in the works, re-doing the plastic dash bezels in my '68.
Years ago in the '80's I restored them with Bare-Metal Foil. Looked great at the time, but over the years they have discolored and yellowed just a bit. Time for a well-deserved upgrade.
Well aware repros are out there, but I'd really prefer to have my originals restored.

I used to use American Plastic Chrome, but I've heard since they have folded.
Any recommendations on who to use to restore/rechrome the dash bezels?
Anyone have any good/bad experiences?
:cheers:

"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

resq302

There had been a place up in Washington State that I think has since closed up but someone has taken over the tools to do it.  Maybe someone here remembers who it was.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

A383Wing

CV Platers was just up here across the border of Washington State...but they closed years ago.....

Not sure if Mr' G's is still doing them...I have heard issues with them from other people

bill440rt

Quote from: A383Wing on November 21, 2013, 12:28:04 AM
CV Platers was just up here across the border of Washington State...but they closed years ago.....

Not sure if Mr' G's is still doing them...I have heard issues with them from other people


Good to know.
I've heard issues as well with Mr.G's.
I see Instrument Specialties and PCG has a dash bezel resto service also.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

4cruzin

If it is just trim areas, I would just do it myself with a silver paint pen . . . looks just as good IMO . . .  :yesnod:  Before and after shown . . .
Tomorrow is promised to NOBODY . . . .

WHITE AND RED 69

Bill, I used these two places to chrome 2 sets of a/c vents and both came out pretty good. MM Metalizing had a very fast turn around and did a great job but was a lot more expensive. But they also did extra prep work. The Chrometech USA came out great as well and they just chromed the entire vent and I painted over the areas I didn't want chrome.

The big difference was the speed and price. MM charged more but I had them back within 2 weeks(would have been sooner but they only accept money orders so it took a little extra time to get the money order in the mail). Chrometech waits for a batch of items to do so they only do the chroming once every few weeks. So it took almost 2 months to get mine back cause they didn't receive them in time to make it in that months batch. MM pricing was I think $80 with shipping and Chrometech was like $30 with shipping. Both will give you accurate quotes if you send them a picture. But I think the price MM will quote for your bezels will be way too high. If you aren't in a hurry check out Chrometech.

http://www.mmmetalizing.com/pricing.html

http://www.chrometechusa.com/


:cheers:

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

histoy

Special-Ts (Bill Petro) did the dash for my '64 Belvedere several years ago. 

Troy

I was doing research on this recently. CV is out of business. A lot of other companies that advertise seem to farm it out to some company with the equipment that only works business to business. GCar http://www.gcartrim.com seems to have good reviews and apparently does a lot of work for Mopar specialists.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

bill440rt

All great suggestions guys, thanks!  :cheers:
I have to remove the dash cluster bezel yet, then it's time to make phone calls.  :yesnod:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Nickrc3

Very pleased with Mr. G's. They did the plastic chroming on both my 68' & 69'.


A383Wing

Quote from: Nickrc3 on December 14, 2013, 07:52:04 PM
Very pleased with Mr. G's. They did the plastic chroming on both my 68' & 69'.


how long ago was this done by them?

Nickrc3

Quotehow long ago was this done by them?
June 2012

War wagon

National moparts up here in Canada used to offer that service. Not sure if they still do

peepsrock

Quote from: Troy on November 22, 2013, 03:09:47 PM
I was doing research on this recently. CV is out of business. A lot of other companies that advertise seem to farm it out to some company with the equipment that only works business to business. GCar http://www.gcartrim.com seems to have good reviews and apparently does a lot of work for Mopar specialists.

Troy


I've used gcartrim, for my 67 dash, been a couple of years ago.  Really nice work, easy to work with.  I'd recommend them, use them again when I need it.

Wes

bill440rt

Well, a little update after some research. This is not to bash nor promote any particular business. Just passing along my findings if it helps others.

Mr. G's no longer offers this service.  :scratchchin:
PCG won't restore bezels unless they do the whole cluster soup to nuts. (Ka-ching!)
Instrument Specialties was the most expensive, with the second longest waiting list at up to 12 weeks.  :whistling:
RedLine sublets their work to G-Car.  :yesnod:

Right now it's a toss up between G-Car and Chrometech.
G-Car is a bit more expensive, but their turnaround time is at 4 MONTHS.  :o    I don't mind paying a bit more for a quality job, but the wait time isn't very appealing.
Chrometech was the least expensive, with the fastest turnaround time of 6-8 weeks. Their examples of their work on their website also looked very nice. They also specialize in replating small model car parts (delicate work), and the owner is a model builder/enthusiast so that at least tells me he has an eye for detail.

I'm hoping to send them out this week, I've narrowed it down to those two companies.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

A383Wing

Price difference between getting yours done and repops?

I know you would rather have yours, but who would know?

Bryan

bill440rt

It would be more expensive to buy a set of B/EA repro's vs having either Chrometech or G-Car restore mine.  :cheers:
FWIW, call me crazy but I'd have no problem whatsoever installing a set of repops in my '69. These are the original dash bezels in my '68, so I'd prefer to keep 'em.  :yesnod:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

el dub

I had mine done by gcartrim in 04 and they still look good. They are out of Hollister, Ca. if its the same one you are talking about.
entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

Ghoste

I'm like you Bill, I have no problem with repros (as long as they are indistinguishable from original)

kpkube

Has anyone used this place: Vacuum Orna Metal "Detroit's Oldest Custom Vacuum Metalizer" Since 1954

http://www.vacuumorna-metal.com/content/restoration

Ghoste

Never heard of them but close enough to check out one day.  Thanks.

The70RT

I have to get my dash bezels done and someone referred me to this link for the do it your self-er. Thinking of the stuff in the video down the page a bit. There is 51 pages of do it yourself info and products. You could even do some parts you don't need and make your money back. Armrest base's are dirt cheap that need refinished  :scratchchin:


http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=674441
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Ghoste

Hmm, interesting.  I do wish there was an affordable way to get into the vacuum method on a small scale though.

bill440rt

Just posting a follow-up.
I received my dash parts back yesterday from being replated & detail painted by ChromeTech. I sent him all my dash bezels, the little fratzog emblem, and the two center A/C vents.
They did a GREAT job on them.  :yesnod:   Chrome is nice, black is the right shade, and they were re-lettered.
He was very reasonable in price, and turnaround was quick. About two months, as promised. Best of all I know they are original pieces.
Highly recommended.  :cheers:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Ghoste

That is awesome to know Bill as there are so few of these places left and your endorsement carries some weight IMO. :cheers:

bill440rt

Thanks!
I'll post some pics soon of the bezels and as the dash comes together as well.  :cheers:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

bill440rt

Here are some pics of the restored dash pieces.
I'm going to reassemble the center dash A/C vent as outlined in another resto thread I created. It is an original non A/C car, maybe A/C is in the plans "someday" so I have the pad, vents & stuff just in case.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

Carrnutt

1969 Rest-O-Fied Charger 383HP, Disc brake conversion, electronic ignition.
1993 D350 Curmmins
2006 Magnum R/T AWD
2003 Ram 3500 Cummins

JB400

Looks like he done a good job. :2thumbs:  Not that it matters, but how was the back of the bezels finished? :popcrn:

In my book, good parts look good from the front, great parts look good from all sides.

bill440rt

Quote from: JB400 on March 10, 2014, 03:09:59 PM
Looks like he done a good job. :2thumbs:  Not that it matters, but how was the back of the bezels finished? :popcrn:

In my book, good parts look good from the front, great parts look good from all sides.

The backsides are chrome plated. In case you're wondering, original parts weren't "mint" on the backsides, either.
In my book, I would much prefer these than Chinese repops.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

TUFCAT

Quote from: Ghoste on March 06, 2014, 05:36:18 PM
That is awesome to know Bill as there are so few of these places left and your endorsement carries some weight IMO. :cheers:

Absolutely like he said! :2thumbs:

WHITE AND RED 69

1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster


fy469rtse

Start a thread Bill , it's a nice car  and I would love to see lots of photos , it will help the new guys on here undertaking similar work of late

tan top

 :coolgleamA:  that's a real nice job on them Bezels ,   :coolgleamA:    deffo a better way to go than repops if possible  :Twocents:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

PlainfieldCharger

 :drool5: :drool5: Incredible...too bad you weren't doing some woodgrain ones...so I have a thread to follow...  :yesnod:

bill440rt

Finished up the dash today, what an improvement! :yesnod:

Quote from: fy469rtse on March 11, 2014, 05:18:20 AM
Start a thread Bill , it's a nice car  and I would love to see lots of photos , it will help the new guys on here undertaking similar work of late

I just may do that. There are a few threads floating around out there, maybe I'll just combine them into one thread also.  :cheers:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

WHITE AND RED 69

Looks great Bill!

But I have to ask, why not freshen up the gauges?  :stirthepot:
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

bill440rt

Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on March 18, 2014, 07:39:25 PM
Looks great Bill!

But I have to ask, why not freshen up the gauges?  :stirthepot:


:lol:
I wish it was in the budget.
Actually, they really aren't that bad with the exception of the speedo. Perhaps that will be the project for next winter!  :yesnod:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

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