Barret jackson white super bird auction on tv today

[petercharger]

Crazy what people pay for cars..no wonder they are all hard to find to find ...any mopar...so it's on fox channel


$. 500k.  And wow wow wow

[War wagon]

  another one that will end up tucked away from sight.
Crazy what some folks will pay!!!!!

[FJ5WING]

Im looking at how awful the body work is and that what I see from TV!

When was that one restored? the belly was body color and the nose to fender seals are in backwards and my wife even noticed the deck lid didn't line up not to mention how much she laughed at the nose to fender alignment.

500 for a bench seat white car???

[PettyMower]

Yup.....the recession is officially over!

[histoy]

Yup.....the recession is officially over!

I think that's true only in a few places... DC, East & West coasts.   That's where the folks with the big bucks, who are willing to spend crazy money, are living.

[DAY CLONA]

Geez, and it's touted as the finest restored HEMI SB in the country with blessings from Dave Wise and the beloved GG....lots of glaring resto mistakes, poor assembly, so-so fit/finish, some fool was parted out of some serious cash!

Mike

[nascarxx29]

Was it the 16 K mile seat belt light optioned 426 hemi 4 speed RM23ROA170172

[Aero426]

Was it the 16 K mile seat belt light optioned 426 hemi 4 speed RM23ROA170172

No, this one was an automatic.    Not the same car.

[Wingnut426]

Anybody interested I'll take $400K for my car, 7K miles and race history!

[1974dodgecharger]

pure CRAP  I mean for 500k

[Hemi Runner]

poor assembly, so-so fit/finish

Mike

So what you're saying is it was restored to how they originally came from the factory with the poor assembly, so-so fit/finish.......

[ws23rt]

The most asked questions I've seen here are about how much is something worth.

When a selling price is known there seems to be much controversy about it. In this case it seems to be amazement. But Barret Jackson is not the market place.

This car sold for this much at this auction on this day.

The sun will come up tomorrow  and the market will be as it was. This will be a small push in the direction of up but it's not enough to bank on.

It's too bad that we see asking prices all the time and seldom see selling prices.

[rainbow4jd]

YES! YES! YES!  FREAKIN' YES!      This just drove non-Hemi's up $100K!      Weeeoooooo!


Now any POS bird is worth $200K, and we can look forward to 100s of more What's It Worth posts like....


"I still have the original air in my spare - what's it worth?"

[boss429kiwi]

It actually sold for $550k, as we are forgetting about the 10% commission.

[1974dodgecharger]

The good thing is that means maybe some folks out there will now find their old superbirds hiding away in the garage and we can get an influx of parts or something etc...there was what 2k of superbirds sold?

[StoneCold]

Was it the 16 K mile seat belt light optioned 426 hemi 4 speed RM23ROA170172

RM23R0A162319

[War wagon]

So a white HEMI bird sold for 500k and a white 440-6 bird sold for 130k
Just no rime or reason to prices at this sale.
Guess it just depends on who is in the room and who wants it more......

[Kowal]

The bird was really, really, nice.   And the timing was great...several big dollar cars before, crowd on a roll due to the Salon collection.

The money on the Charger 500 was remarkable...165K prior to fees.  Engine bay needed detailing.

[69_500]

How many more times can that Hemi 500 come up for sale with the same false statements. It does not only have 1,295 miles. That's how many miles since it was first restored in the 80's. Car had many thousand more miles on it at that point.

[Wingnut426]

I don't believe the mileage on the White Hemibird was ever mentioned.  I'd be interested in knowing how many miles were on it before it was restored.  That car is identical to mine except it had a remote drivers mirror.  My car has California emissions. WINGNUT426

[Kowal]

How many more times can that Hemi 500 come up for sale with the same false statements. It does not only have 1,295 miles. That's how many miles since it was first restored in the 80's. Car had many thousand more miles on it at that point.

Agreed!   The engine bay was pretty dirty for what it claimed to be.   Looked like it had 12,950 miles!    Body/paint was nice.

Heck, for obvious reasons, I was glad to see it.   Yes, I know each of these are just "one off" stories, but what the heck.    I was trying to talk my buddy in to buying it, given the TLC needed I figured it would go for a 100K or so and be a great deal for him.   We stood on stage and watched as it blew past that dollar range fast.

[Kowal]

Engine bay.   Can't see in the pic but the battery tray was black (and dirty), the tray support was corroding bare metal.   Nothing fatal, which was why I was trying to talk my friend in to it, but at B-J normally a lot of these big dollar buyers aren't exactly the guys that will work on their own car to fix details like you can see here.  The battery was an aftermarket with a battery topper.   Obvious issues with the upper radiator hose and master cylinder (remember, it went for 181.5 with fees).

[Kowal]

But it looked darn good though, particularly on a sunny Saturday afternoon

[Kowal]

The white Bird though really was nice, very nice, with a fresh appearing resto.   The 440-6 car could have used a bit more elbow grease before going up on the block, that would have helped it.

[69_500]

I would have to go back to look at my notes but if I remember right that car had more like either 35 or 80k miles on it in the 80's. There is a thread on the car on the board where a previous owner chimed in on it.

[69_500]

If you do a search for board member hctub you will find pictures of the car from when he owned it.

[Kowal]

How many more times can that Hemi 500 come up for sale with the same false statements. It does not only have 1,295 miles. That's how many miles since it was first restored in the 80's. Car had many thousand more miles on it at that point.

So silly me.   I kept thinking about this comment and did some research.   This '500 sold at BJ in Arizona in 2008 for 181.5, West Palm in 2010 for 148.5 and then again in Arizona this past weekend for the remarkable 181.5.

The first two times they bragged about the miles, this time the comment was missing (though I didn't think to stick my head in to check the odometer).

I suppose those that have been on this site for years already knew this.    Since in '08 and '10 I was completely obsessed with Lift Off Hood cars, I totally missed it.

[arrow]

  Was the black hemi 500 from Montana at BJ 

[Kowal]

  Was the black hemi 500 from Montana at BJ 

No

[Ghoste]

I've noticed the trend with a lot of sellers, and more especially dealers, and too many of the auctions where they discount the mileage prior to the restoration.  Sort of like saying the panels and paint are new so therefore the miles are too.
The auction houses keep saying, well thats what the odometer indicates and that is what the seller claims, who are we to prove whether its 1000 or 101000. 
Sad really sad in my opinion.

[Kowal]

I've noticed the trend with a lot of sellers, and more especially dealers, and too many of the auctions where they discount the mileage prior to the restoration.  Sort of like saying the panels and paint are new so therefore the miles are too.
The auction houses keep saying, well thats what the odometer indicates and that is what the seller claims, who are we to prove whether its 1000 or 101000. 
Sad really sad in my opinion.

My friend and I were looking at a Buick that he had interest in at BJ.   We asked about the mileage and the owner/restorer immediately said "oh, I turned that back to zero"!   It does seem to be new trend, ridiculous.    We know its an old car and it was driven before!

[70Sbird]

I'm guilty of this "rollback" as well......
When I sent my speedometer and gauges off to be overhauled, I had them reface the odometer wheels and set the odometer to "0"
Of course the odometer had 99,704 on it when I sent it in and now my car has 105,000 miles on it +/-

[Ghoste]

How would you call it if you were telling people interested in buying it?  (and obviously yours was nearly zero again anyway so...?)

[70Sbird]

How would you call it if you were telling people interested in buying it?  (and obviously yours was nearly zero again anyway so...?)

The car has 105K +/- If I'm asked...I was just trying to be a smart-ase.
If I was not within a margin of error (296 miles) of being at 100K miles (zero on the odometer) I would have put it back at the displayed miles.

I believe that a cars "actual" mileage is part of that cars history and documentation. I'm not a fan of resetting to zero just because the car has beed "restored". Where does that begin or end? What if I just restored the engine, or the instrument cluster, the interior, or the ashtray, or replaced the battery? at what point is it justified?
I dont thing it is ever "OK"

[Kowal]

  Was the black hemi 500 from Montana at BJ 

Wasn't at B-J, but was at Russo-Steele.   Their website said it sold for 220K.    Big money!

[ACUDANUT]

Im looking at how awful the body work is and that what I see from TV!

When was that one restored? the belly was body color and the nose to fender seals are in backwards and my wife even noticed the deck lid didn't line up not to mention how much she laughed at the nose to fender alignment.

500 for a bench seat white car???

Any pic's of what you are talking about.  I did not notice it. ?

[Aero426]

Car definitely had some things to straighten out.   Nose gasket stuck out like a sore thumb.   Wing decals mounted were too high.   

[Montreal Wing Car]

Image gallery here:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/1970-plymouth-hemi-superbird-barrett-jackson-2014/#photo-2162683/

Ben