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Started by 73rallye440magnum, July 16, 2014, 05:55:30 AM

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73rallye440magnum

Current- 70 Charger XH29G Y3, F8, F8

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8

tan top

 :o  good find  :yesnod: :cheers:


:popcrn:


EDIT:  "Photos courtesy of Kevin Mocyk, may not be reproduced."
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

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 :popcrn:


EDIT:  "Photos courtesy of Kevin Mocyk, may not be reproduced."
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

 :popcrn:    :o  auto speed / cruse control   :o


EDIT:  "Photos courtesy of Kevin Mocyk, may not be reproduced."
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

hemi68charger

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Wingnut426

One loaded Daytona.  Six-way seat, AM-8 track, lighting package, door edge guards and all the S/E goodies!  Only thing missing is power windows.  Wingnut
HEMI Daytona Convertible

Ghoste

That seems about it doesn't it.  :drool5:

hemigeno

Thanks for posting the ad.  

405182 - it's listed as originally selling from my college-days hometown of Columbia, Missouri, although I've heard the original owner was from Arkansas.  Whether the car sold from Columbia Dodge or was dealer-traded, who knows.

There's a few things which have been changed out over the years, although it's very well optioned for sure.  There's also a note in the spreadsheet about the fender tag almost certainly being a repro though -- but if the original Broadcast Sheet is present, all the options could be confirmed anyway.

Cool car, but IMHO they're asking strong money in the current market even with it being a SE, other options & unusual color.

:Twocents:


P.S.  There's at least 10 SE Daytonas, not seven as listed in the ad; and I'm sure a couple more would surface if we had all the cars' information.


nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

the craigslist ad itself, for prosperity's sake


EDIT:  "Photos courtesy of Kevin Mocyk, may not be reproduced."
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

oldchevelle541

beautiful car but compared to the Superbird never realized how small the trunks are on these.

rob-dirt

 :shruggy: Well Now  $245,000. Yesterday it was  195,000. :shruggy:

Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: hemigeno on July 16, 2014, 08:33:07 AM
Cool car, but IMHO they're asking strong money in the current market even with it being a SE, other options & unusual color.




The price just went up  another 50 grand overnight. 245 large for a driver quality car; seriously?  ::)

73rallye440magnum

Maybe he had too many offers at the original price.  ;D

Or, he doesn't really care to sell it, much like any of us wouldn't.

Sneaking into that hemi 4 speed premium territory though!
Current- 70 Charger XH29G Y3, F8, F8

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8

fc7_plumcrazy

and?
Is it still out there or has it been sold

jaak

I wonder if it is an early built car. I noticed it has a 68 shifter knob. My 69 (Charger, not Daytona... I wished) was built in Aug of 68, and it had 68 shifter knob, and black button door handles on it (before I fixed it up), it now has the 69 parts since it is not all original anyways. When were Daytonas built? Sorry if that is a simple question, I just don't know a lot about Daytona's.

Jason

BS27ROB

Hamtramck, assuming you mean as a 69 Charger before modification.

hemigeno

Quote from: jaak on July 31, 2014, 10:58:11 PM
I wonder if it is an early built car. I noticed it has a 68 shifter knob. My 69 (Charger, not Daytona... I wished) was built in Aug of 68, and it had 68 shifter knob, and black button door handles on it (before I fixed it up), it now has the 69 parts since it is not all original anyways. When were Daytonas built? Sorry if that is a simple question, I just don't know a lot about Daytona's.

Jason

With only one exception, Daytona production at Hamtramck started in late April 1969 and ran through late June of that year.  None of the cars "should" have had black button door handles, although your August '68 is certainly within the window when that trait was still common.

The "1968 shifter knob" issue you referenced is somewhat of a misnomer.  While it's anything but a steadfast rule, you will find quite a few late-production 1969 model cars/Chargers which have the chrome console automatic shift knob.  There could be examples of unrestored Daytonas with woodgrain knobs, but none of the unrestored cars I've ever seen had the woodgrain version.  Several restored Daytonas now sport the woodgrain knob, but restored cars aren't as dependable for establishing original patterns.  Personally, I'd be more inclined to have a chrome auto knob than a woodgrain for use on a Daytona or any other mid- late- '69  - but that's just me. 

No harm in asking the questions you did, as some of this stuff isn't common knowledge even for seasoned Mopar fans.

:cheers:



wingcarenvy


jaak

Quote from: hemigeno on August 01, 2014, 10:43:49 AM
Quote from: jaak on July 31, 2014, 10:58:11 PM
I wonder if it is an early built car. I noticed it has a 68 shifter knob. My 69 (Charger, not Daytona... I wished) was built in Aug of 68, and it had 68 shifter knob, and black button door handles on it (before I fixed it up), it now has the 69 parts since it is not all original anyways. When were Daytonas built? Sorry if that is a simple question, I just don't know a lot about Daytona's.

Jason

With only one exception, Daytona production at Hamtramck started in late April 1969 and ran through late June of that year.  None of the cars "should" have had black button door handles, although your August '68 is certainly within the window when that trait was still common.

The "1968 shifter knob" issue you referenced is somewhat of a misnomer.  While it's anything but a steadfast rule, you will find quite a few late-production 1969 model cars/Chargers which have the chrome console automatic shift knob.  There could be examples of unrestored Daytonas with woodgrain knobs, but none of the unrestored cars I've ever seen had the woodgrain version.  Several restored Daytonas now sport the woodgrain knob, but restored cars aren't as dependable for establishing original patterns.  Personally, I'd be more inclined to have a chrome auto knob than a woodgrain for use on a Daytona or any other mid- late- '69  - but that's just me. 

No harm in asking the questions you did, as some of this stuff isn't common knowledge even for seasoned Mopar fans.

:cheers:




Thanks, that was very informative.

Jason

69DAYTONASE

Time to clear some things up here. I have owned this car now for 30 years. It was sold new at Columbia Dodge in Columbia, Missouri to a career Air Force pilot who's home state was Arkansas. Yes, I have the original broadcast sheet and the car is a numbers matching car. NO options were added or changed. In as far as erroneous information others may comment about relative to my car, I am sure this stems from a certain person wanting copies of all of my pertinent numbers related items on the car just to make up the plastic VIN tag for the door. Needless to say what I told him to do. I have been aware of numbers and document gathering being funneled to a certain individual who profits off that information for many years now. Apparently, they think Daytona owners are dumb enough to be tricked out of copies of their broadcast sheets! I have also read in several publications that a certain numbers hero has said that all Daytona fender tags end in either EN1 or EN2. This simply is NOT true! I have many examples of Daytona tags that end in END, as does my original tag.
Another point- there were 7 US and 3 Canadian SE Daytonas built making them rare indeed when comparing production numbers to Hemi equipped versions. How far do we go with my car? I did change my mind about selling it, 10 years from now $245k will seem like a real bargain for a 1 of 1 on several accounts concerning the options my car carries.
To my knowledge all Daytonas were produced with the chrome shift knob, red pie pan on the air cleaner, and I have never seen one with black door handle buttons. Mine are chrome.
"My other car is a farm tractor"

held1823

as one of the daytona owners dumb enough to be tricked out of posting his broadcast sheet -  wait, i did that without anyone asking, in order to help create a better database for fans of these cars -  i'd like to say hello and welcome.

i'm not seeing who or what you're setting straight, but the people you typically run into here are fanatical about the aero cars and only seek to help each other learn all that we can about these special machines. i've yet to see any of the old guard here try to deceive anyone or profit from shared information. you will not find a more knowledgeable group of wing car fans anywhere on the planet. hopefully you'll join in and become another one of us oddballs.

your car is certainly one to be proud of.
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

I think I know that car its Kevin M Baldwinsville NY SE 405182 it was Vic G in Dover DE back in the day

shiplist info on it  405182   89   mo      Columbia Dodge, Columbia, Mo   8/24/1969

Back in the day he also had a 69 1/2 bee Got a old ad
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Ghoste

Welcome to the group and I also hope you stick around.  No one here is trying to profit from information and we all just want to collate and verify as much information as possible.  If your car isn't in the 69 Charger Registry I hope you will at least consider it, its strictly for the benefit of all.

maxwellwedge

Quote from: 69DAYTONASE on November 12, 2014, 09:03:25 PM
Time to clear some things up here. I have owned this car now for 30 years. It was sold new at Columbia Dodge in Columbia, Missouri to a career Air Force pilot who's home state was Arkansas. Yes, I have the original broadcast sheet and the car is a numbers matching car. NO options were added or changed. In as far as erroneous information others may comment about relative to my car, I am sure this stems from a certain person wanting copies of all of my pertinent numbers related items on the car just to make up the plastic VIN tag for the door. Needless to say what I told him to do. I have been aware of numbers and document gathering being funneled to a certain individual who profits off that information for many years now. Apparently, they think Daytona owners are dumb enough to be tricked out of copies of their broadcast sheets! I have also read in several publications that a certain numbers hero has said that all Daytona fender tags end in either EN1 or EN2. This simply is NOT true! I have many examples of Daytona tags that end in END, as does my original tag.
Another point- there were 7 US and 3 Canadian SE Daytonas built making them rare indeed when comparing production numbers to Hemi equipped versions. How far do we go with my car? I did change my mind about selling it, 10 years from now $245k will seem like a real bargain for a 1 of 1 on several accounts concerning the options my car carries.
To my knowledge all Daytonas were produced with the chrome shift knob, red pie pan on the air cleaner, and I have never seen one with black door handle buttons. Mine are chrome.

Welcome to the site.  :cheers:  As an owner of a bunch of Daytona's through the years I would like to clarify a few things based on what I have, have had and have seen. There are actually at least 4 Canadian SE's ....I currently own one (originally from Ontario) and used to own another (originally from BC). A friend has the third one (originally from BC) and there was a Quebec SE as well. There may be others.....they keep popping up! Two of the 4 I have owned had chrome knobs, two were wood knobs. I do agree that it seems most I have seen that were deemed to be original, were chrome knobs. Same agreement on the door handle buttons. After quickly checking just 2 tags - One was END the other EN2.
I hope you get every cent you are asking for....but I am biased  ;)
Cheers

73rallye440magnum

Welcome to the site. Please stick around and enhance the Aero community.

:yesnod:
Current- 70 Charger XH29G Y3, F8, F8

Past- '73 Rallye U code, '69 Coronet 500 vert, '68 Roadrunner clone, XP29H8, XP29G8

tan top

Quote from: 69DAYTONASE on November 12, 2014, 09:03:25 PM
Time to clear some things up here. I have owned this car now for 30 years. It was sold new at Columbia Dodge in Columbia, Missouri to a career Air Force pilot who's home state was Arkansas. Yes, I have the original broadcast sheet and the car is a numbers matching car. NO options were added or changed. In as far as erroneous information others may comment about relative to my car, I am sure this stems from a certain person wanting copies of all of my pertinent numbers related items on the car just to make up the plastic VIN tag for the door. Needless to say what I told him to do. I have been aware of numbers and document gathering being funneled to a certain individual who profits off that information for many years now. Apparently, they think Daytona owners are dumb enough to be tricked out of copies of their broadcast sheets! I have also read in several publications that a certain numbers hero has said that all Daytona fender tags end in either EN1 or EN2. This simply is NOT true! I have many examples of Daytona tags that end in END, as does my original tag.
Another point- there were 7 US and 3 Canadian SE Daytonas built making them rare indeed when comparing production numbers to Hemi equipped versions. How far do we go with my car? I did change my mind about selling it, 10 years from now $245k will seem like a real bargain for a 1 of 1 on several accounts concerning the options my car carries.
To my knowledge all Daytonas were produced with the chrome shift knob, red pie pan on the air cleaner, and I have never seen one with black door handle buttons. Mine are chrome.





hello & welcome  :cheers:  :coolgleamA:  :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

nascarxx29

A friend of had sent me a picture of this Daytona at Dover Air Force Base Delaware.Had a CB antenna on trunk lid .Vic Giangrant had the car in hemmings I have the hemmings ad for it .Also Vic is on facebook he owns a car wash in De     https://www.facebook.com/westsidecarwashde

Ad was from 82 or 85 hemmings   
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69DAYTONASE

How about posting that pic?   :popcrn:

BTW that ad is from Jan 85 Hemmings   :popcrn:
"My other car is a farm tractor"

nascarxx29

I Sent that picture that I scanned to Dave Patik .My friend in MD who had a 69 Daytona and worked for the NSA seen it on the Dover base .And got me a pic .I seen the ad in hemmings myself..I was looking before and after the accident that took my superbird out in 85.I still have all my hemmings
I can put you in contact or email with him
iRM23VOA179697





Superbird 1/4 Souvenir

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69DAYTONASE

It must be the same photo I have of the car at Dover AFB. It is the passenger side view when it had aluminum slotted mags on it. :icon_smile_cool:
"My other car is a farm tractor"

nascarxx29

Yup I recall it had slots/ alum wheels .That's the picture I forwarded.If you hadn't seen it before I sent it to Dave Patik.My friend Took the picture   :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

shiplist page
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69DAYTONASE

Isn't there another list like the typed one shown elsewhere on this site?

Car 80 on the list "Lake Ave Dodge" Syracuse NY
I have never heard of that dealer, not sure that dealer ever existed.

Car 90 on the list, one up from my car on the list and by VIN went to a dealer in Binghamton, NY not that far from me, ironic!
I wonder if that is the Daytona rumored to be in Cortland. NY somewhere. That car was supposed to be black with a red interior and the rear window plug Swiss cheesed with rust. I know several people who have seen this car.

Great stuff, thanks for searching & posting it.
"My other car is a farm tractor"

nascarxx29

The black/red Daytona might be the old James lucy car from Wallkill NY ..My girl and I did this shiplist breakdown on this link keep scrolling its long  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,75320.0.html
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69DAYTONASE

Does anybody have a pic of it? I seem to remember being told the interior was red leather which would make it an SE car ?
"My other car is a farm tractor"

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69DAYTONASE

Sure matches the description I was given back in the late '80's I remember being told it had a red stripe. Has Charger script on the sail panel so not an SE. Gotta be super rare in this color combo :popcrn:
"My other car is a farm tractor"

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

69DAYTONASE

I remember looking at Bill Cards B5 Daytona the summer after the restoration was finished at the CNY Mopar Assoc. Show when it was at Weedsport, NY. sharp car and a great history. The one time I forgot my camera was at that show :slap:
"My other car is a farm tractor"