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Anybody ever tried FI Tech fuel injection?

Started by Rubberduck, October 28, 2015, 07:14:46 AM

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Rubberduck

ยด68 Charger, 505 by CWE, 4-speed


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WHITE AND RED 69

I've installed it on my 69 but am having some issues. Not with the unit itself but with my crappy wiring.  :brickwall:

I did have it running for a while and it worked great. It started right up after getting the air out of the system and self tuned in minutes. Throttle response was a major improvement and its nice to be able to set idle, rev limits, and a/f ratio from the seat with a push of a button. I'm very happy with the quality and service of the product.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

John_Kunkel

I recently installed their GO4 unit on the 360LA in my '56 Plaza, I used their Command Center (bottom left core support) to simplify the fuel delivery. Love it, self-learn after simple initial programming with all kinds of options for more programming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuGpwP687lA
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tan top

 :coolgleamA:    looks a interesting set up    :think:      an alternative  to the msd atomic


been looking  up all the info on  the msd atomic  recently :scratchchin:

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John_Kunkel


The Atomic was gonna be my choice until I discovered the FI Tech. Does the same thing as the MSD (including controlling the ignition) for a whole lot less money.
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WHITE AND RED 69

Big thing for me is there is no ecu to mount on the firewall. Everything is in the throttle body so that made it a clean install.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

tan top

Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on October 29, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Big thing for me is there is no ecu to mount on the firewall. Everything is in the throttle body so that made it a clean install.
Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 29, 2015, 01:06:59 PM

The Atomic was gonna be my choice until I discovered the FI Tech. Does the same thing as the MSD (including controlling the ignition) for a whole lot less money.


  appreciate the feed back Guys  :cheers: :cheers:
  yes  , think your right  !!  seems the better set up  :yesnod: 
  think I will go for this  , at some point  in the future ,
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
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darbgnik

Subscribed for updates. Looks like a bargain!
Brad

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Brad

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rt green

im thinking their duel quad set up on my tunnel ram. can you imagine. one that ran right. how does it affect the  timing curve in the dist?
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John_Kunkel


There is no timing curve in the distributor, the distributor advance is locked out and the EFI takes control of the timing curve via the hand-held controller.
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rt green

thanks John. you just pull out the weights?
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myk

Quote from: John_Kunkel on November 08, 2015, 04:25:30 PM

There is no timing curve in the distributor, the distributor advance is locked out and the EFI takes control of the timing curve via the hand-held controller.

That is so cool...
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John_Kunkel

Quote from: rt green on November 09, 2015, 07:59:25 AM
thanks John. you just pull out the weights?

No, if you just pull the weights there is still movement between the shaft and cam plate so you have stop that movement by welding or pinning. If the vacuum advance chamber is removed, the breaker plate must also be held rigid by pinning or the use of a strut.
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rt green

ok. I understand. I guess that's one way to get a mopar perf dist to work right.
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CFMopar

Anyone ever do some before and after dyno runs? Curious.
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WHITE AND RED 69

Quote from: CFMopar on December 07, 2015, 08:00:34 PM
Anyone ever do some before and after dyno runs? Curious.

Against a properly tuned carb the difference in horsepower would be minimal if any.

I do have before dyno numbers but have not gone back yet with the efi. It will happen soon but my carb was not tuned to fully maximize the power so I should see an improvement.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

Derwud

HP hopefully will be the same. But, Driveability and mileage would be the bigger benefit.
1970 Dodge Charger R/T.. Owned since 1981

Dino

Clayton have you done any road tests with the new system yet?
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WHITE AND RED 69

Quote from: Dino on December 09, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
Clayton have you done any road tests with the new system yet?

I've only done about 100 miles or so but everything is going smoothly. I did have the idle air control waaay off for about 40 miles but a quarter turn with a screwdriver and the push of a button and it was all good. Still no mileage numbers as I have been playing with it and letting it idle in the driveway for long periods but I can already tell its better in every way.  :2thumbs:

My only issue is I need to move my fuel vapor canister to a higher point in the trunk. But that has no effect on the efi unit, just me being crazy.  :lol: 
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

Dino

If crazy made your car the way it is then have at it brother!   :lol:

How much would you say the total investment is including that tank, pump, lines and whatever else you need?  My current budget requires me to buy a carb next year but once I'm done with grad school EFI is going back on the short list.   :yesnod:
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WHITE AND RED 69

I went a bit overboard with some of the parts so it can be done cheaper but here is what I spent:

EFI unit- $995
Weld in O2 bung- $10 (kit comes with a clamp on one but I wanted it welded in)
Tank- $245
In tank pump- $220
Sending unit- $35
Billet Fuel filter with clamp- $119
Fuel Vent Canister- $245
20 feet of braided fuel hose- $110
25 ft of 3/8 steel fuel line- $25
Assorted -6an fittings- around $150?

So in total i'm in for about $2,100 + maybe $75 for shipping fully installed and running. The fuel vent canister, billet filter, and -6an fittings were just my preference and can be done without them for a bit cheaper install.

Another option if you have room in the engine bay is Fitech offers a fuel command center (shown in John's pic above) for $395. This lets you use the stock lines, stock tank, and mechanical pump. This will supply the high pressure needed without messing with the tank or lines. So for $1400 you could be all in and running.

http://fitechefi.com/default.asp.pg-GoEFISystemFuelCommandCenter

:cheers:
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee 75th edition
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
1972 Plymouth Duster

Dino

Thanks for that breakdown.  :cheers:

That's a lot cheaper than what I was thinking actually which is good news for a change!   :lol:
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