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« on: July 22, 2016, 04:02:03 AM »

Hello all,

I just joined this forum - been lurking in the shadows for several years though ( and shamelessly been using all the great knowledge and pics as references when building my version of Daytona).
During the buil up i did not take too many pics, donīt know why i didnīt and now regret it....

i bought the Charger in ī90, already a previous owner had changet the original 383 to a 440 six pack.
The original green was long gone and the car was white with blue stripe when i got it.

the first pic here is from late 90īs with new repaint over the last one, new vinyl roof, new wider tires - looks quite nice in the pic but the truth is that the super cheap repaint is just as good as the price was...



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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 06:46:38 AM »

Welcome!
That was a sweet looking ride to begin with...so how far along are you?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 01:10:06 PM »

Hello all,

I just joined this forum - been lurking in the shadows for several years though ( and shamelessly been using all the great knowledge and pics as references when building my version of Daytona).
During the buil up i did not take too many pics, donīt know why i didnīt and now regret it....

i bought the Charger in ī90, already a previous owner had changet the original 383 to a 440 six pack.
The original green was long gone and the car was white with blue stripe when i got it.

the first pic here is from late 90īs with new repaint over the last one, new vinyl roof, new wider tires - looks quite nice in the pic but the truth is that the super cheap repaint is just as good as the price was...



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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 06:10:46 PM »

Can't wait for pictures. yesnod yesnod yesnod
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2016, 06:23:08 PM »

subscribed.  2thumbs I love aero cars! (real or fake no matter)
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2016, 06:41:00 PM »

Looks like my car! Can't wait to see the build.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2016, 10:57:32 PM »

Waiting some pics...  2thumbs
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2016, 10:49:25 PM »

Thanks for the kind replies !

I try to add pics everyday - so the build up will be quite fast.
Actually took about ten years to complete.
There were a couple of years when nothing much happened, it sat at the painters for quite long time, i did a little house renovering - i have to think a little more to find some more very good excuses...

Anyway, here is a pic were it looks like not much has happened but actually this was quite a big change:
One badge outside, but it meant 471" Hemi from Ray Barton, reinforced 727 and dana60.


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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 04:28:38 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2016, 01:21:53 AM »

Fast forward a couple of years....

I did have one very eventful year :
I enjoyd the Hemi Charger as much as anyone can - some car shows, car happenings all over Finland, attended the big european gathering at Västerås, Sweden, tried a little roadcourse driving ( where I found out that with 11,5" discs front and drums in the back just were insufficient - the brakes faded arter a lap or two ending that fun too soon). Tried the car a couple of times in the strip were the best was 11,5 / 120. Last one was disastrous - a lifter broke -> some bent & broken valves, couple broken pistons and severe damage to the heads.
Did not touch the car for a couple of months...

Eventually the engine was lifted and we started to think what now ?
Thought that this is the perfect time to do the car over - complete dissambly, blasting and building it better than it ever was.
Then we got the idea : what would it take to change the car to a Charger 500 clone ?
We had not seen one 500, Daytona or even a Superbird live at that point....

I was a member at Moparts.com and asked one member would it be possible to take a few pics and measurements of his car and sent them to me ?
I was overwhelmed when the answer was : no problem !!!
It took him a couple of days to make the arrangements and then my e-mail was full of pics inside the trunk and inside the car to try to explain how the back window is located. Also very good measurements were provided to me. It is still unbelievable how some people are willing to help others they have never met and ask nothing for me in return !

Here is a pic of the car dissassembled, blasted and possibly started the back glass makeover


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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2016, 12:58:22 AM »

Another year or so has passed and the story goes on....

The Vegahatch assembly nearly done I found out that you could actually get the parts to go all the way building a Daytona.
So, the gameplan changed and now we were doing a first Daytona clone in finland.
Contacted Ted Janak and ordered all the parts he made - thought that it covered everything - all the big parts were there but some little parts, nuts, bolts, vacuum harness etc. did not.
Allways looking for more knowledge I then found out about Dayclona and member Mike here.

We were a little puzzled (or quite alot) with all the parts and how they are assembled -> we wanted to see a real Daytona !
That was easy, ordered plane tickets and off to -05 Mopar Nats.
There we saw a couple of Daytonas + Superbirds + Janak + Mike (Thanks again for the parts you brought to the Nats for me !).
At the Nats the people I met were all more or less helpful and had more or less time to answer all my questions.
That helped a lot but most was forgotten when home - total sensor overload !
The most helpful was when Mike sent me the instructions how to assemble the nose cone done by Dave Patik.

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My project with Vega hatch assembled, Janak parts - what ? how ? where ?, We were there !


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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2016, 04:26:00 PM »

Hei stipendiaatti Mopar innokas harrasstaja,

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It's been a few years, glad to see you here! looking forward to some pics of your Daytona

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2016, 01:19:08 AM »

Hei stipendiaatti Mopar innokas harrasstaja,

Hope I got that right?


It's been a few years, glad to see you here! looking forward to some pics of your Daytona

Mike

Hello Mike,
Sure has been a few years, hope that you are doing great !
I am suprised that you even remember our visit - maybe you are not so often talking to a couple of super eager enthusiasts from northern Europe...

A couple more pics:
now the metal work is done and the last test fitting of nose cone and wing (and of course doors etc. were tested) before painting


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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2016, 06:06:43 AM »

Looking good !!!   2thumbs
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2016, 05:40:44 AM »

Thanks !

I can only hope that the comments will be as positive as they have been so far....
Now we started to paint the car and I can say that the color choice has not been to everyones liking here so letīs see how you all take it.
Also I wanted to drive this car which meant big breaks -> not original diameter rims.
Engine bay is not original type restoration etc....

first, Base urethane done in our shared garage


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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2016, 12:00:54 AM »

Two pics from the paint shop


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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2016, 04:52:41 AM »

A couple more.
First one is a couple of days after it was painted. Donīt remember if the clear was on at this point or did someone just sand something near it and the dust settled on the car. I remember that i thought that what the he.. did not look like that when i chose the color. A couple of days more and it was cleaned up and ready to move back to our garage....and looked much better.

Anyone want to guess what color this is ?
Hint: it is a Mopar color.


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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2016, 06:22:24 AM »

A couple more.
First one is a couple of days after it was painted. Donīt remember if the clear was on at this point or did someone just sand something near it and the dust settled on the car. I remember that i thought that what the he.. did not look like that when i chose the color. A couple of days more and it was cleaned up and ready to move back to our garage....and looked much better.

Anyone want to guess what color this is ?
Hint: it is a Mopar color.

looks good ,  2thumbs coolgleamA

Red ?  scratchchin   my first guess was the late model Chrysler inferno red ,  although looks a little dark   on my screen ......  shruggy
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2016, 11:17:32 AM »

FK5 Burnt Orange?
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2016, 01:22:01 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2016, 01:43:29 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2016, 03:34:38 AM »

Atleast 1/2 point maybe 1- goes to Tan Top.
It is understandably hard to see on screen the exact color.
I am not even sure if there is a difference between my color and inferno red.
Anyhow this is PR6 Primal Red from 01-03 color chart.

More pics:
First had to see how the stripe fits with the color.
Then added some chrome around it - bumper, wheelvell chrome etc.


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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2016, 03:45:26 AM »

Oops, wrong picture....
How do i change it when i have already posted ?
Letīs try with another post.


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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2016, 06:50:59 PM »

That is just jaw droppingly gorgeous. I love that color.
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2016, 02:04:55 AM »

That is just jaw droppingly gorgeous. I love that color.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2016, 02:53:34 AM »

Thanks !

The color looked a tad darker in the chart but i am very pleased how it turned out to look.
Most of the comments i have heard have been positive, but there is allways someone who says i should have used 69 color...or smaller rims or different this or that.

After paint the progress was really, really slow.
My friend found from Moparts that a guy was selling his half done engine.
actually it was a pile of parts - all the machine work not yet done etc.
To me it was a dream pile with price i could agree with myself worth paying
Old engine quickly sold, the parts shipped here and about one year assembling and I had a 604" KB, stageV all alu Hemi.

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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2016, 04:10:36 AM »

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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2016, 04:21:57 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2016, 06:41:18 AM »

Wow! Nice!
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2016, 12:47:27 PM »

That is just jaw droppingly gorgeous. I love that color.
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Wow, so do I!! Really beautiful paint color.
And a nice huge HEMI to boot, this car is gonna be great! drool5
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« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2016, 04:58:06 AM »

Thanks for all your encouraging comments !
I really hope that you all still like it when you see it finished....

Engine ready so i could just throw it in ?
I did test fit the old engine in the engine bay and it went in so this was gonna be easy.
Well, it wasnīt.
Should have test fitted with ALL the new stuff that I got.
K-member was the same but the old block was with rb motor mounts, now i used Schumacher mounts, new Borgeson steering box (smaller than the old stock one, but should have test fitted before assembling anyhow), new TTI 2 1/4 headers, new a little wider alu valve covers.
The engine hit the right shock tower and those damn headers hit to the Borgeson box, steering shaft, torsion bars, and what else ? Canīt remember but if they can hit somewhere they did....
So, a little shock tower hammering and new paint.
Not so little header hammering and several test fittings and in it went !

Heres one pic.


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« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2016, 07:12:27 AM »

If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.  Great job persevering through the challenges.  I hope it performs as good as it looks, because it looks great!!
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« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2016, 09:10:45 PM »

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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2016, 10:44:07 PM »

If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.  Great job persevering through the challenges.  I hope it performs as good as it looks, because it looks great!!
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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2016, 12:35:57 AM »

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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2016, 02:26:52 AM »

Thanks again !

There were times (everyone has those moments ?) when i was ready to drive the car to the nearest lake and throw all the tools with it  brickwall
Come next weekend and wife asks what are you going to do ?
Me: Go to the garage ofcourse and this time do something right...

Next - assemble the lights to the nose cone. i had great instructions how to do it so that wasnīt such a struggle.
Some of the fasteners or assembly parts which came from Janak were just too flimsy - did not think they would ever work, so i made some of them from thick aluminium and used stronger bolts etc. using Janak parts only as a reference.

Also had to test how the wheels and tires fit. Fenders were not installed yet but hoped to see how it stands and how (too) big those wheels and tires look like.
This time i wanted the car to break also -> big brakes, 13" Baers front & 12" Wilwoods back -> 17" wheels minimum but could not find big enough tires so had to choose 18" wheels and 285/40/18 tires back & 255/40/18 tires front.
Could use a little more tyre i think but maybe after these are gone...


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« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2016, 02:48:12 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2016, 12:46:50 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2016, 12:43:08 AM »

Thanks neighbor, i am very interested to see how yours is progressing !

Three pics once again:
First time out and a couple from a magazine shootout.


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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2016, 12:59:17 AM »

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« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2016, 01:08:03 PM »

Very Nice!...glad to see your dream come true

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« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2016, 05:26:45 PM »

Great. Now I have to paint my car red.  lol Man that is killer.
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« Reply #42 on: September 03, 2016, 09:34:00 AM »

Mike, I waited, hoped, dreamed etc. of the day when i actually drive my own Daytona !
Really a dream come true !

Steveriano, your car is so awesome and special that i gladly take your compliments of the color.

The car was finished last year - this year was to be the one when i drive it, go to happenings and test it in the 1/4 mile and so on.
Well that did not happen - once again...
100 miles test driving and then started fixing the little gremlins : inadequote charging and cooling was so and so. I had my charger rebuilt and thought that it might also help with the cooling - i have eletrical water pump and i am not sure if it worked perfectly when all my electrics did not work as it should.
Again some test driving - did not get anywhere before i got some noice from the engine - lost a couple lifters and cam is wiped. Not a disaster but this summer was done  brickwall
E-mails once again start to fly between me and Tim Banning (FHO)...

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« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2016, 01:01:20 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2016, 02:16:03 AM »

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« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2016, 06:44:25 PM »

Man that is a stellar looking ride! cheers

 May I ask the reason why you chose not to do the tail panel black out?
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« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2016, 11:40:51 PM »

I thought and thought how it would look like with the chosen color and one tough one was the taillight blackout. I just came to the conclusion that with that huge black wing it does not need to draw any more attention to the rear of the car. Instead i did paint the grille black which "should be" painted with the body color.
So, just personal preferencies....
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« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2016, 11:06:26 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2016, 06:25:02 PM »

More pics, More pics, and I say AGAIN, More pics!!!!!!

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« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2016, 11:11:22 AM »

NICE!!   cheers cheers cheers
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« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2016, 08:18:41 PM »

Man, I love that color combination, thanks for showing it off! drool5
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« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2017, 08:30:51 AM »

That is just jaw droppingly gorgeous. I love that color.
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« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2018, 06:19:09 AM »

No pics at this time, but I did find a you tube clip of my car.
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSM4IkQFn_8


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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2018, 08:54:36 PM »

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