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My 1970 Charger 500 is almost done

Started by darbgnik, January 20, 2017, 04:14:44 AM

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darbgnik

Just thought I'd do a quick update. I decided to get the shop to repaint the V21 hood treatment, and add the tail strip back on the car before I get it. The delivery truck is tentatively scheduled to pick the car up on June 18th, so I should see the car a week after that. Of course that puts the car arriving while I'm over a thousands miles away, on a 1250 mile offroad motorcycle trek...... figures.

The last pic is my car between the shop owners 442 and his 68. The same 68 I looked at, and said make mine look like that.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

Baldwinvette77


DeltaV

Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning. - Erwin Rommel

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crj1968

Car looks great !    :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:

275/60/15's on back? 

darbgnik

Quote from: crj1968 on June 10, 2017, 10:47:13 AM
Car looks great !    :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA: :coolgleamA:

275/60/15's on back? 

IIRC, yes. But it's been a few years since I've had my eyes on her!
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

darbgnik

Well, it's finally home! After many years of sitting, job one is getting the oil and coolant swapped, and insurance appraisal so if the unthinkable happens, I actually get something out of it.

First pic is when it arrived, while I was doing an offroad motorcycle trip from Jarbridge Nevada to the Canadian border. Second is sitting on my lift awaiting some love.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

darbgnik

 I figured I might as well update my own thread with what I've done in the last couple weeks since getting the car home.

Replaced the speakers in the dash with two Focal 4"  speakers where the original dash one was, and two Focal 5x7s in the rear deck lid. Those rears actually give a little mid bass.

Went through a bunch of wiring. Got the hidden headlights working like they should. Replaced the single "on accessory" aftermarket blade style fuse box the previous owner installed with two 6 circuit blocks. One on accessory, and one on constant power.

Dropped the oil and coplant to find out the chrome water neck the last guy installed was made in Taiwan and corroded to all hell inside, gumming up the Thermostat and probably the system. Driving it with a flush agent and water for a while, before putting coolant and water in for good.

Redid the Mopar aluminum valve covers for the third time to stop a major leak onto the drivers side header. Rubber gaskets. Leaked. Moroso blue gaskets. Leaked. Morose blue gaskets and a ton of black RTV. Sealed.

Greased the front end and u joints.

Now just waiting on parts for the drivers window slider on the front edge and 316 u joints to install the 3.55 center section with the larger yoke vs what's in there now.

It's great to something to fiddle with..
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

lukedukem

I too had a chrome thermostat housing, and it started leaking. Went back to factory.

Are your tires lettering green to match the paint or just off white. I can't tell cause I'm color deficient
And are your rims 15x7 all around? Or 15x8 in rear
Really like the build. Can't wait for efi stuff.

Luke
1969 Charger XP29F9B226768
1981 CJ7 I6 258ci
2016 F150, 5.0, FX4, CC

darbgnik

Quote from: lukedukem on July 14, 2017, 07:24:15 PM
I too had a chrome thermostat housing, and it started leaking. Went back to factory.

Are your tires lettering green to match the paint or just off white. I can't tell cause I'm color deficient
And are your rims 15x7 all around? Or 15x8 in rear
Really like the build. Can't wait for efi stuff.

Luke

Luckily, I just measured the rears today when I had one off looking at the axle preload adjustor. They're 8" with 275/60R15. Also the front tires are 255/60R15 and they look right.

The lettering is actually yellow. Old Nascar style Goodyear's. They're old but surprisingly not all cracked up yet.  They haven't made those in years.

I've got a bunch of little things to finish up before I rip the whole fuel system out for EFI. But she'll get it eventually.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

Kern Dog

The chrome water necks always seem to leak after a short time. I'm about 100% sure that they are CHEAP Chinese pot metal that fatigues under the heat of the coolant. They develop an actual arch in the middle. I dressed one with a belt sander 2 different times before I tossed that Chinkenese piece of shit into the trash.

CDN72SE

Love the look, beautiful car, definitely a lot of excellent work done  :2thumbs:
1972 Charger SE

darbgnik

Quote from: Kern Dog on July 14, 2017, 11:24:47 PM
The chrome water necks always seem to leak after a short time. I'm about 100% sure that they are CHEAP Chinese pot metal that fatigues under the heat of the coolant. They develop an actual arch in the middle. I dressed one with a belt sander 2 different times before I tossed that Chinkenese piece of shit into the trash.

Yeah, it sucks that so much is made in China these days. So much so, that you actually have to recalibrate yourself to it. I bought a MAC Tools electronic caliper set the other day, to replace a cheap one I have, and............ made in China. Not surprisingly, when the replacement non chrome water neck showed up....... Made in China. Hopefully it's that elusive good Chinese shit.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

nvrbdn

70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

GreenMachine

Quote from: darbgnik on July 14, 2017, 05:54:07 PM
I figured I might as well update my own thread with what I've done in the last couple weeks since getting the car home.

Replaced the speakers in the dash with two Focal 4"  speakers where the original dash one was, and two Focal 5x7s in the rear deck lid. Those rears actually give a little mid bass.

Went through a bunch of wiring. Got the hidden headlights working like they should. Replaced the single "on accessory" aftermarket blade style fuse box the previous owner installed with two 6 circuit blocks. One on accessory, and one on constant power.

Dropped the oil and coplant to find out the chrome water neck the last guy installed was made in Taiwan and corroded to all hell inside, gumming up the Thermostat and probably the system. Driving it with a flush agent and water for a while, before putting coolant and water in for good.





Redid the Mopar aluminum valve covers for the third time to stop a major leak onto the drivers side header. Rubber gaskets. Leaked. Moroso blue gaskets. Leaked. Morose blue gaskets and a ton of black RTV. Sealed.

Greased the front end and u joints.

Now just waiting on parts for the drivers window slider on the front edge and 316 u joints to install the 3.55 center section with the larger yoke vs what's in there now.

It's great to something to fiddle with..




I used Prestone coolant system flush on and old engine, followed the directions, and it seemed to work very good. After that I put in some fresh 50/50 and  about 200 miles later my new water pump gave out and started spewing from the weep hole. This was a name brand aluminum water pump. Might just be a coincidence, but something to look out for.
If it ain't broke, fix it 'till it is.

Kern Dog

You are making "Green" cool again. I like the look of the car with the wheels too, sort of a street brawler/nascar vibe.... :2thumbs:

darbgnik

Quote from: GreenMachine on July 16, 2017, 12:19:50 AM
Quote from: darbgnik on July 14, 2017, 05:54:07 PM
I figured I might as well update my own thread with what I've done in the last couple weeks since getting the car home.

Replaced the speakers in the dash with two Focal 4"  speakers where the original dash one was, and two Focal 5x7s in the rear deck lid. Those rears actually give a little mid bass.

Went through a bunch of wiring. Got the hidden headlights working like they should. Replaced the single "on accessory" aftermarket blade style fuse box the previous owner installed with two 6 circuit blocks. One on accessory, and one on constant power.

Dropped the oil and coplant to find out the chrome water neck the last guy installed was made in Taiwan and corroded to all hell inside, gumming up the Thermostat and probably the system. Driving it with a flush agent and water for a while, before putting coolant and water in for good.





Redid the Mopar aluminum valve covers for the third time to stop a major leak onto the drivers side header. Rubber gaskets. Leaked. Moroso blue gaskets. Leaked. Morose blue gaskets and a ton of black RTV. Sealed.

Greased the front end and u joints.

Now just waiting on parts for the drivers window slider on the front edge and 316 u joints to install the 3.55 center section with the larger yoke vs what's in there now.

It's great to something to fiddle with..




I used Prestone coolant system flush on and old engine, followed the directions, and it seemed to work very good. After that I put in some fresh 50/50 and  about 200 miles later my new water pump gave out and started spewing from the weep hole. This was a name brand aluminum water pump. Might just be a coincidence, but something to look out for.

Thanks for the experience. I'll keep an eye on it. But looking at the gunk on the old thermostat, I'm stuck flushing it anyways.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

darbgnik

Quote from: Kern Dog on July 16, 2017, 12:29:52 AM
You are making "Green" cool again. I like the look of the car with the wheels too, sort of a street brawler/nascar vibe.... :2thumbs:

Yeah man. That's the same thought I have of how it turned out.

Those old 15s don't exactly handle turns or acceleration that well, but man, do they ever handle potholes! Lol.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

darbgnik

Figured I'd post a few pics along with this and the last update.

Got the 4.10 third member swapped out to a 3.55 last night with the help of a buddy. Overall a pretty straight forward job really. Didn't even make that much of a mess cracking the case open. Seeing as I had to replace the rear u joint with a 316 instead of the combo that was on there, I replaced the front as well. I ordered a C clamp type ball joint press off of Amazon a couple days before, and it might have been the best hundred bucks I've ever spent. Pushed those old and new u joints like butter. The only shitty thing was that I chipped a tooth on the ring gear in old third member laying on the lift tray, rendering that whole unit basically a case and a sure grip.  :brickwall:

What I will say is that I really like the improvement the 3.55's make. Sure, it neutered the car a little off the line, but I can actually cruise at 60 mph now without spinning the life out of the engine. Second and third gear actually make sense now for normal driving, without being too much of a dog.

Also posting the pics of the new Grant leather wrapped "Tuff like" steering wheel and custom plate for the two 4" speakers in the dash made of expanded ABS so it wont soften up like the last wooden plate I made.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

cdr

LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

darbgnik

Not much to report this week, save a new set of fan belts, no help from the parts counter in finding the correct ones. But I got to take her out and enjoy the old girl a bit last night. There's been a heat wave of sorts up here, well, hot for this far north anyways..... But makes for great evenings.

Surprisingly, my girlfriend actually loves being in this old, loud, squeaky dashed, dinosaur. I think she thinks it's as cool as I do.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html

imabozo

Your profile says Alberta, but I could've swore the pic with your car at the shop was in Newfoundland. I saw a green '70 parked by it a few years back. Maybe I'm hallucinating.

Simonic

This is a really interesting thread.Thank you for sharing your experience with us  :2thumbs:
Mopar owner in the UK..

darbgnik

Quote from: imabozo on July 28, 2017, 12:05:34 PM
Your profile says Alberta, but I could've swore the pic with your car at the shop was in Newfoundland. I saw a green '70 parked by it a few years back. Maybe I'm hallucinating.

You're not hallucinating. The shop I used was a family friends. Cranfords Auto Body in Roaches Line.
Brad

1970 Charger 500. Born a 318, AC, console auto, now 440/727
Build thread:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,127291.0.html