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repro junk AGAIN!!! GEEZ

Started by 400sforever, September 01, 2017, 04:30:10 PM

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400sforever

I am getting so sick and tired of informing these retarded "original restoration" type companies that they are consistently making junk! OER appears to fall in that same category with no phone number in which to get ahold of them with...maybe if I harass classic industries enough I can get through to them since I think they are in charge of OER. Anyways im a stickler for details and this caught my eye. I usually buy my center caps through wheel vintiques for my chrome road wheels. They are supposedly out of center caps until October, so I bought these center caps from OER and compared the inner bulls eye details to my wheel vintiques cap. I have some original center caps from 69 and they appear to match the wheel vintiques center cap EXCEPT the very inner circle is not painted silver on my original 69 as far as I can tell. Are you all in agreement or have seen the same problem that the OER caps are wrong and maybe even wheel vintiques?
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

400sforever

look at bullseye details
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

400sforever

wheel vintiques center cap bullseye details
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

400sforever

side by side with OER on the left compared to wheel vintiques.
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

400sforever

these are center caps from MCB restorations in Michigan. The only difference between theirs and wheel vintiques is that the very center circle of the bullseye is not painted silver like wheel vintiques is. My 69 center caps appear to have not been silver in the very center either. Are these the most correct factory ones?  I'd like to know who signs off on "authentic restoration product" for all these companies!
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

400sforever

my '69 original center cap
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

JB400

Paint the outside of the bulls eye on the OER center silver to match the original set, and call it a day.  Let OER know about the problem so they can fix the issue.

400sforever

I think the little curved raised portions on the bullseye are supposed to be "chrome" appearing whereas the OER ones are a flat finish. The factory ones appear to have a chrome-look also
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

odcics2

Quote from: 400sforever on September 01, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
I think the little curved raised portions on the bullseye are supposed to be "chrome" appearing whereas the OER ones are a flat finish. The factory ones appear to have a chrome-look also

I believe I have some NOS center stickers.  I'll dig them up and post a pic.
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Sublime/Sixpack

OER may have some good stuff, but some of their parts I've purchased has been junk!
Good luck in your search for the correct center pieces.
1970 Sublime R/T, 440 Six Pack, Four speed, Super Track Pak

400sforever

Thanks! That'd be nice to see nos ones for sure
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

Nacho-RT74

and we are all expecting the 73/74 headlight fillers from them? ooooh... I think won't be something to be proud then
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

400sforever

Hopefully they get those right! They need to make themselves more accessible so we can comment on quality control issues like I've noticed
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

DAY CLONA

Quote from: 400sforever on September 03, 2017, 01:09:32 PM
Hopefully they get those right! They need to make themselves more accessible so we can comment on quality control issues like I've noticed





If you'd like to voice your opinion on quality control or other product issues, go to the source that decides what you the consumer buys, contact Robert Horton at....  mopar@trilicensing.com    as long as it pertains to products carrying the "Authentic Mopar Restoration" license logo

Nacho-RT74

Nooow thaaaats an interesting post!
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

8WHEELER

Quote from: 400sforever on September 03, 2017, 01:09:32 PM
Hopefully they get those right! They need to make themselves more accessible so we can comment on quality control issues like I've noticed


They are also a t0 mm screw now on the caps, not a big thing, but I had already got out the correct socket for the factory style caps, that I have worked on for 39 years now.
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Ghoste

It is kind of a big thing, it isn't like the SAE ones are not available or that they would add hundreds of dollars to the cost.  They substituted metric because it was easy, thats all.  IMO

400sforever

Are you guys in agreement that the mcb center caps have the correct bullseye? They look like my original 69 center caps. I'm going to call them today and order theirs most likely
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

odcics2

Vintage NOS stickers that go on the cap.  I got them right from the original vendor, many, many decades ago.  :coolgleamA: 
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

400sforever

Perfect!! Thank you for doing that. I called Matt at mcb restorations and I decided to try a set that they sell. I believe they are as correct as your originals. I never noticed the small differences in these until recently. Now its going to drive me nuts since I have too many of the wrong centers on other cars! Grr
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

Ghoste

Now I need to go home and look at the ones on my own car.  lol

odcics2

Quote from: 400sforever on September 05, 2017, 02:03:10 PM
Perfect!! Thank you for doing that. I called Matt at mcb restorations and I decided to try a set that they sell. I believe they are as correct as your originals. I never noticed the small differences in these until recently. Now its going to drive me nuts since I have too many of the wrong centers on other cars! Grr

My NOS appear to be more 'crisp' looking - the raised areas are higher.
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Mytur Binsdirti

The title should read "Repro junk still".

Kern Dog

I thought you were going to Alaska???

400sforever

I'll post pics as soon as the Michigan ones arrive and see what you guys think
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

Nacho-RT74

I like what OER description says under they product parts list

The leader in quality reproductions is here! OER stands for Original Equipment Reproduction. When you see the OER logo, you can be assured that every part is manufactured to exact factory specifications and will fit and function just like the original part. What's more, many OER products are officially licensed and carry a full one your warranty against defects and workmanship.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Ghoste

Nice bit of comedy there. they need to drive that thought into the manufacturing facilities in China.

DAY CLONA

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on September 11, 2017, 07:19:06 AM
I like what OER description says under they product parts list

The leader in quality reproductions is here! OER stands for Original Equipment Reproduction. When you see the OER logo, you can be assured that every part is manufactured to exact factory specifications and will fit and function just like the original part. What's more, many OER products are officially licensed and carry a full one your warranty against defects and workmanship.




Ironically their statement is "correct", Mopar's licensing dept work's on the same "creed"... "will fit and function just like the original part" the part where it was suppose to say  "looks like the factory part in every detail" is obviously not their or Mopar's licensing dept concern?.... 

Nacho-RT74

probably these also "will fit and function just like the original part"

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Ghoste on September 11, 2017, 08:15:14 AM
Nice bit of comedy there. they need to drive that thought into the manufacturing facilities in China.

if we were paying for cheap repros, I think would care less since would be our own fault on buy them... but licensed, expensive and still incorrect look ?

China is able to make from pieces of $hit up to nice good parts ( Apple products are made in China same as many other stuff, althought it says "assemblied" just to sway the word "made" )... but why we can trust paying an iPhone made in China ? because the brand is backing them and we get a customer service!!!!

That brings me up to the wrong color shades on gradated 73/74 Repro Rallye stripes on $300 ( initially $400 ) and LICENSED, proudly made in USA. ( and when I let to the manufacturer know about that, simply didn't care )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

another "LICENSED PRODUCT" which not even existed back in the days since they are originally PAINTED not decals

http://www.ebay.com/itm/QG-461-1972-76-DODGE-CHARGER-CHALLENGER-DART-HUB-CAP-DECAL-KIT-LICENSE-/302162799809?var=&hash=item465a4e6cc1:m:m6EiuLPrDHYX5nvP-RgrP9Q&vxp=mtr

which is good to get that option from any manufacturer, but... licensed ?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

400sforever

Ya it's annoying that we have to pay the high prices and then spend hours calling and emailing people to tell them how incorrect their expensive repro part is!
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

alfaitalia

Obviously the knowledgeable folks on this forum are excluded from the following!.....but the manufacturers are probably fed up hearing from whinging owners complaining about every part (even if it's correct). I'm sure you all know people who "know better" and love telling you a part is incorrect on your car when you know it isn't. An elderly friend of mine almost came to blows with an "expert judge" at a show after he said that the wheels and inner door panels are wrong on his Porsche 356b. He has owned the car since he picked it up brand new from the showroom. Lol!

The makers of these parts must think "here we go again" pretty much every time the complaints phone rings. Not defending poor parts though......
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Ghoste

I wonder if there is actually much complaining to them though or if its mostly just amongst ourselves?

400sforever

this is a center cap from MCB restorations in Michigan. It too appears slightly different from their posted picture on ebay. I wish people would take a picture of the exact part!! I like wheel vintiques center cap since the raised portions around the bullseye center are actually chrome appearing but they painted the center of the bullseye silver and its not supposed to be that way. MCB's center cap is brighter looking than the pictures of the NOS centers that are posted in this thread. they don't have a dull enough brushed aluminum look around the raised portions of the cap. im annoyed with these details and cant decide which ones to use now
1974 dodge charger se 512 cubic inches, 3.91 suregrip

TONY

the funny part to me about these wheel centers is that i have some nos sets available for $130

they arent dated from the 1970s, but i believe they are from the 1990s

so if anyone wants some original chrysler wheel centers get ahold of me

I have the whole set of center caps for $130 set of 4, not just the decal/inlay discs

thanks
tony