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Author Topic: POSTING PICS AND UPDATES THE RESTORATION AS IT UNFOLDS ON MY 69 DAYTONA CLONE  (Read 3361 times)
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2017, 03:59:48 AM »

Looks like part of the regular 69 bumper is still on the car
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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2017, 01:27:28 PM »

  I took some pics of the brackets,  are these regular 1969 brackets Huh these are at a angle all the others I have ever seen come straight out.  




What you have are fiberglass repro brackets/Z bars that have been "fubar'd", all the other steel brackets/braces and what appears to be the stock 70 Charger front bumper are all hiding in there, it appears they used the 70 Charger bumper as the hanging point as well as the construction point to create a Daytona nose..... FYI: factory Z bars are steel, they are supported by steel C frames that bolt on where the factory stock Charger front bumper brackets were, the latchtray bolts to the top of the Z bars and to a brace welded onto the front of the radiator yoke, I suspect the hidden bumper/brackets inside your nose cone are doing all the support work, you need to decide if your going to rip it all out?, or just fabricate what you need to do to mount a latchtray, your front directionals, etc, etc


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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2017, 06:02:19 PM »

Thanks I will need all this info when I send it off to the body shop.  I am sure they have never dealt with this kind of thing before  cheers
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2017, 02:33:38 PM »

So spoke with the engine shop, said my block (1973 block) is toast, something to do the the main oil port is done.  So guess what engine they are going to build up.  Yes the date coded 1970 block the one they through out.  Glad I went and got it from the metal recyclers.
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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 04:31:49 PM »

Make sure you get the other block back. I have a hard time believing anything can be wrong with an oil port on it judging by what they did with your other block. Even if the threads are messed up on the oil pickup, they can be drilled and tapped for a 1/2 oil pickup.
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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2017, 07:32:26 PM »

I will double check thanks, something about the number 1 main being 50 thousand of  inch.  Way out of my league when it comes to old engines.
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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2017, 05:51:41 PM »

I'd be so pissed they took the block to the dump that I would take my business elsewhere even if it cost twice as much!
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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2017, 03:07:15 PM »

Here's a picture of the heads getting done, we talked about getting headers for the car instead of regular exhaust manifolds, said maybe 45 more hp and better cooling.  Also looked at the engine that was knocking in the car, definitely bearing knock, the back main bearing was completely worn down.


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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2017, 07:56:19 AM »

So I was looking at my rear plug and hate it, way too high, I always seem to look at the worst part of my car when I am looking at it.  So I found a vega plug a little rusty at the bottom, but it should work, window is clean and chrome ok, I know I need to change the upper trunk molding with a "Plymouth Dutchman panel" I am not too sure were I would get one of those.  Getting parts for this car is becoming a pain in my ass.   I read ADM sells them for a few $100s, but what year and model would I get HuhHuh


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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2017, 10:15:48 AM »

I can't give any guidance on  the Vega/Dutchman panel, just wanted to encourage you to keep up the good work.  These cars can be a challenge, but are a blast when you drive them and make it all worth it.

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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2017, 10:36:30 AM »

Think what you have to decide is did they cut the trunk lid off in a straight line ( easier to do and bend the edge over) or are you going to try to go more original look and make the front edge of trunk lid have a curve to it
On mine I think I can live with it just being straight
I have a couple 73 B body parts cars around and have been told the trunk filler on them will work to get the right shape for the gasket to sit in along the front edge
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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2017, 11:11:01 AM »

Oh I thought with the vega window, it's absolutely necessary to get the Dutchman, I can live with a straight edge, most people would know the difference, I didn't when I saw it for the first time even having owned 2x 1970 chargers 1x 70 Challenger since the late 80's.  But now (since I been on this site) with that window being so high and not curved, it truly bugs the hell out of me.    icon_smile_dissapprove
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2017, 10:31:37 PM »

Oh I thought with the vega window, it's absolutely necessary to get the Dutchman, I can live with a straight edge, most people would know the difference, I didn't when I saw it for the first time even having owned 2x 1970 chargers 1x 70 Challenger since the late 80's.  But now (since I been on this site) with that window being so high and not curved, it truly bugs the hell out of me.    icon_smile_dissapprove




If your going to do the Vega plug, and want to simulate the Daytona/Charger 500 trunk lid/Dutchman curvature, use the 71-74 RR/GTX/SAT/Charger B body dutchman panel (new are available from AMD) your only going to use the trunk gutter from the panel and graft it to the Vega plug
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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2017, 06:34:37 AM »

Got ya thanks for the info
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2017, 02:10:43 PM »

Went by the engine shop here's the 70 date coded 440 block they sent to the metal recyclers with the main caps on it lol, they start Monday rebuilding it. Also Got the 69 valiant signal lights (for the front cone) in today lens and body really good shape but the blubs had rusted to the inside of the blub reciprocal, easy fix I think.  


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« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2017, 06:35:32 PM »

Went by the engine shop they are almost done getting the engine together they are putting in Keith Black pistons, and Comp Cam Extreme Energy, considering TTI headers aswell instead of the H.P manifolds.  shruggy


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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2017, 02:11:45 PM »

Ok so the car back from the shop with new motor, had overheating problems as per a post I put up, but that seems resolved. So heres what has been done so far.

New Engine  including: 1970 date code 440, ported a poshlished  original heads.
ARP Bolts
New Battery Cable
Competion Cam Mopar Extreme
Aluminator Rad and shroud
New Rod and Main Bearings
New Oil pump and screen
Keith Black pistons
Molly Rings
Hedderman Headers, (Had TTI Header but had clearance problems) also still need racing starter for the Headermans (clearance issues)
Street Roller Lifters
New Valve Springs
Edelbrock Intake / 750 carb
Dyno at 450 ish hp.
etc etc

They lowered the front end (was way to high), took the airbags out of the front and replaced with KYB shocks.

Had a rear passenger side cylinder leak on the brakes (fixed).



 


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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2017, 02:17:54 PM »

Finally found a rear hatch from a Vega in mint shape.

So Have been looking for long time only one found was at autowrecker guy wanted $500.  Ouch.  Anyways put an add on kijiji and 3 months later I get a reply, super nice guy he's a firefighter, wants some of my police badges, so I trade straight across for some shoulder flashes
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« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2017, 05:20:12 PM »

Finally found a rear hatch from a Vega in mint shape.

So Have been looking for long time only one found was at autowrecker guy wanted $500.  Ouch.  Anyways put an add on kijiji and 3 months later I get a reply, super nice guy he's a firefighter, wants some of my police badges, so I trade straight across for some shoulder flashes

Know the similarity between Police and firefighters?

They BOTH want to be Police.  2thumbs
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« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2017, 10:32:44 PM »

LOL firefighters need heroes too
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« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2017, 01:43:34 AM »

Over here the other services certainly don't want to be Police. A common phrase about cops from the other services is "last on the scene - first to leave!".
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« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2017, 11:12:53 AM »

Well done kev on getting the 440 together!

I was gonna ask about the rust staining in the rear bore?
Did they put a liner in there?

Good luck on the Vega hatch fitment.
Myself I would go all-in for a real plug and glass.
Same amount of work just a little dearer on parts... scratchchin

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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2017, 05:49:59 PM »

So now Pro Stock here in Edmonton did my engine there website has my car on its website, as per the link below thank you Pro Stock.   Anyways the A pillars are fiberglass with 3 screw holes so I called a company here in the city they can chrome the a pillar covers for $100 way better than $800 usa. just got to fill the holes with resin as per the pics.



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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2017, 06:15:14 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2017, 09:34:33 PM »

IMHO, spend the money on stainless A pillar moldings, scrap the fiberglass ones...


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