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Hemi bird hits Toronto auction

Started by BIG ZAZA, September 06, 2017, 09:43:35 PM

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BIG ZAZA


nascarxx29

Was this former NJ car of Mark Decastro
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

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birdsandbees

At least the listing admits that they stamped the non-original engine block with the VIN #. Bet that's forgotten on the next flip when it becomes a numbers matching car..  :icon_smile_big:. Better to leave / mill the pad blank, almost be honest, and call it a warrantee replacement if you're going to play games.

Beautiful car!  :o
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Beep Beep Dave

Who is this noted expert?

a noted Mopar authority and restoration expert thoroughly inspect it to ensure it was as correct as possible, and upon completion gave the car his stamp of approval.

Dave
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
Maple Leaf Mopars your Canadian Mopar site.

1970 Charger R/T


Ghoste

Rumoured to be Mauro Bracca.  Without his permission though it would be improper for the auction house to use his name.

alfaitalia

Nice!...but he could have waited a little longer before he put the plug leads the the guides..then the paint might have been dry!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

hemigeno

Quote from: alfaitalia on September 07, 2017, 04:26:00 PM
Nice!...but he could have waited a little longer before he put the plug leads the the guides..then the paint might have been dry!

That's deliberate.  Same thing observed on OEM installations.





BIG ZAZA

Quote from: hemigeno on September 07, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
Quote from: alfaitalia on September 07, 2017, 04:26:00 PM
Nice!...but he could have waited a little longer before he put the plug leads the the guides..then the paint might have been dry!

That's deliberate.  Same thing observed on OEM installations.






Hey guys we did do alot of updates to car after the current owner purchased the car. When the car was reassembled during the resto the owner had passed and the family did the best they could to finish the car.

The job went well with the help of some awesome NOS parts we found and original parts. I would have loved to do an OE resto on it but you can't do them all.

Good eye on noticing the orange paint on the wires. Yes this is what happened on the production line.

The car is a real hemibird and all original panels and good solid car.


Previous listing and discussion on here

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,125031.msg1556053.html#msg1556053








dual fours

Would the two grove pulley on the alternator be on this particular car?
I'm still fussing over which "Goodyear Polyglas GT" tire to look for, the early ones (up to 10-31-69) without the raised white size numbers or the late ones (11-1-69 to 12-31-69) with the raised white size numbers. Cars build date Oct.15,69. Just how close did the assembly line workers adhere to the dates? Or was it a mandatory date limit.
I can't see the pentastar on the right fender, I must be going blind.
That Superbird looks so smooth.
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

held1823

Quote from: dual fours on September 07, 2017, 10:29:45 PM
Would the two grove pulley on the alternator be on this particular car?

correctly so
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

alfaitalia

Quote from: hemigeno on September 07, 2017, 05:22:35 PM
Quote from: alfaitalia on September 07, 2017, 04:26:00 PM
Nice!...but he could have waited a little longer before he put the plug leads the the guides..then the paint might have been dry!

That's deliberate.  Same thing observed on OEM installations.






Hmmm.....Ok. But if you go into that much detail, where are the paint runs and the poorly finished interior paint, the bad panel gaps. etc etc. IMO you either make it as it should have been built in an ideal no expenses spared world that no factory could/would do in the 60s/70s (like this car mainly is).....or you try to do it as Day One, which to be honest you never really see except on those very rare mint, stored survivors.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Ghoste

As big zaza explained though, the initial restoration was completed by the family of a deceased previous owner and was therefore rushed.  The current owner had some things done to correct some of things done to the car before but the current owner bought the car to flip, not to re-restore.  Perhaps the next owner will spend the time and money to take it to the next level?

Aero426


maxwellwedge

Quote from: dual fours on September 07, 2017, 10:29:45 PM
Would the two grove pulley on the alternator be on this particular car?
I'm still fussing over which "Goodyear Polyglas GT" tire to look for, the early ones (up to 10-31-69) without the raised white size numbers or the late ones (11-1-69 to 12-31-69) with the raised white size numbers. Cars build date Oct.15,69. Just how close did the assembly line workers adhere to the dates? Or was it a mandatory date limit.
I can't see the pentastar on the right fender, I must be going blind.
That Superbird looks so smooth.

2 groove on a Hemi Alt  - yes....on 69-71...not sure on 68 and prior.

You can go size or no size tires on a Bird - no one can dispute that.

The spark plug wires can have paint all over them...many engines were dressed while the paint was still wet.

I think Mauro did a great job with the detail items...like Ghoste mentioned - the car was already restored when it was given to him to straighten out the nuts and bolts. If Mauro and Jeff Cabot were doing the entire car it would be Gold worthy.

Aero426

Back in the good old days.    $2800 with a running 440.       

maxwellwedge


Aero426

Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 08, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
Great pic Doug!


Thanks.   It is spring 1980.     The Bird and Spoiler II were owned by the same man in Louisiana.   Dad bought the Spoiler II first ($680!) and drove it back.   He then flew back down and drove the Superbird back.    He never looked at the VIN on the paperwork until he stopped at a rest area.     He bought thinking it was a 440 car.    When he got it home, the first time I saw the car,  I saw the R and freaked.      This is one that dad wished he would have kept.     

Beep Beep Dave

Great picture and story Doug...what was the going rate for a Hemi Superbird sporting a 440 in 1980?

Dave
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
Maple Leaf Mopars your Canadian Mopar site.

1970 Charger R/T


Aero426

Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on September 08, 2017, 12:20:45 PM
Great picture and story Doug...what was the going rate for a Hemi Superbird sporting a 440 in 1980?

Dave

$2800 bucks.    It was resold later that summer for $5200, delivered to New Jersey.    The guy who bought it,  his dad kept saying,  "That's a lot of money.  Do you think the kid will be able to get his money out of it?"    True story.       That guy owned it for many years.   I am sure he did OK on the back side.    :cheers: