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Trailering your car without "rash"

Started by birdsandbees, November 24, 2017, 09:15:54 PM

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birdsandbees

Curious what you guys/gals are doing to strap in, hold down, etc when trailering your freshly restored beauties to shows without that nice undercarriage getting "trailering rashed".

Just ordered myself a new spread axle 8.5 x 24' Atlas enclosed (being built an extra 12" high, as well as a drivers side escape door) to replace my current 20' Pace and want to outfit this one right. Have 2 months before I get my new trailer, so have time to get everything I should need to haul my Bird or Bee correctly.

Any pictures of your set ups appreciated!

Thanks, Wayne
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Charger-Bodie

Use the straps that hold over all four tires.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

69bronzeT5

Quote from: Charger-Bodie on November 24, 2017, 10:44:37 PM
Use the straps that hold over all four tires.

I've seen a couple like this around. I'd love to get a UHaul style trailer; I love those front over the wheel straps. The trailers are way too short though and don't like our B-bodies on them.
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

birdsandbees

That's how I use to haul both cars on my deck trailer!

Guess I'll need to put the tracks down and use the clip in attachments, or I guess the better thing to do would be add 8 flush rings in the floor exactly where I need them since both cars are identical in wbase. Anything else I haul could just use the existing 4 flush rings at each end of the trailer.

Picture is only 27 years old...
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

alfaitalia

Now that is a BIG car trailer. Would not even be legal to tow a trailer that long in the UK.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

ACUDANUT

That trailer is being pulled by a Van ??

birdsandbees

Yep.. went everywhere with it. 1987 GMC cargo van upgraded to 3/4 ton axles with a 350 in it. Still have it actually.. for storage behind my shop.

Pulled like a champ and better than a pickup for weight distribution and braking. Was a great wind block for the cars toooo !

Now back to my enclosed trailer loading question..   :lol:
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

gtx6970

Sorry , not a fan of the method shown over the tires. That will move for and aft . No thanks.

Having done my share of transporting cars.

1st and for most, a winch to pull them in ( that way no dire need for a exit door on the trailer ,,,although if building a new trailer I'd probably still add one )
heavy duty D rings bolted the trailer frame itself,,not just the wood floor .

4 heavy duty binding straps , crossed on both ends to prevent side to side movement

Never had any issues to date with this method

alfaitalia

"Sorry , not a fan of the method shown over the tires. That will move for and aft . No thanks."

Then you are doing it wrong...(as my wife often says to me!!!). I only use that method.....although I don't like those single straps....mine have a separate split strap across the top of the tyre (difficult to describe...will try and find photo!!) ....but even with the above method you should be able to get it tight enough not to move. Tyres/wheels should be rock solid with that method and all the pros tie down using this method in the UK. You do get a little movement up and down on the suspension but no fore and aft movement at all. Seen to much damage of chassis and suspension parts to want to hold cars down any other way.

EDIT...Pic found....mine are like this. Because of the length of the trailer I use the front bumper of the car usually only an inch or so from the winch....not had enough movement forward to touch the winch ...yet!!



No idea why two pics showing....only one link pasted!!
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

birdsandbees

Thanks Bill.. what do you do on the straps to hoop the axle?

Thought X strapping would be smart, to stop any sideways sliding if all hell breaks loose! Never an issue for you?

On a side note, I never had any issues running the straps over the tires on my flat deck. The cross bars worked out perfect though to get the straps tucked nice and tight. Never lost a strap, never had a car move and I hauled for 100's of miles at times.

Already grabbed an, overkill 10,000 lb, winch on a Black Friday sale for 1/2 price yesterday with both cord and wireless remote.
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Petebell68

I used the over tire straps on the front - the nice thing about these is they just clip into a track on the trailer floor and are very easy to adjust
for tightness and fit .
On the back I used a cross pattern over the rear axle under the brake lines on top of a rag .
No rash marks or movement at all .

Pete

birdsandbees

Thanks Pete!!  :cheers:

Keep your trailering methods coming guys, I have another 1.5 months to get everything together to do it right!
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

c00nhunterjoe

I dont like straps over the tires for the exact reason shown in the pic with the red car. It deforms the belts.

alfaitalia

The deformation is not permanent though.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

Lennard

I would do what the pros do. The car haulers that carry 8 cars at a time use the "over the tire straps" like the pictures with the green Mustang above.

RJS

I had a car trailer ed once with the tire type holddowns and the tire went flat causing the car to move and touch the wall in the trailer.
Ron

Lennard

Quote from: RJS on December 07, 2017, 10:05:29 AM
I had a car trailer ed once with the tire type holddowns and the tire went flat causing the car to move and touch the wall in the trailer.
Ron
When a tire goes flat, the tension will loosen on the strap regardless of which way it's being used.

c00nhunterjoe

Not if the chassis is blocked to eliminate suspension movement like i do with the race cars.

birdsandbees

Any pictures Joe? I'll be hauling my fresh Bee around in it to shows and then possibly my Bird all the way to Taladaga in '19. That's over 1100 miles for me..
1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

6pkrtse

I just use D rings straps up over the K Frame in front & rear axle in the back in my enclosed trailer. I don't like the over the tire straps due to some of our cars sitting way too low over the tires to get them on & some have too large of slicks in the rear to fit over the tires on others.
1963 Belvedere 413 Max Wedge
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 sixpack.
1970 Challenger R/T Drag Radial 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Road Runner 383 4 BBL
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 4 BBL
1996 Dodge Ram 2500 V-10 488 cu in.
2004 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD Dually 6x6
2012 Challenger R/T Classic

Lennard

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on December 07, 2017, 01:13:46 PM
Not if the chassis is blocked to eliminate suspension movement like i do with the race cars.
We weren't talking about transporting race cars with fragile/sensitive shocks and expensive suspension parts.

Old Moparz

I have a set of axle straps & cross them diagonally at the front & rear. The diagonal method prevents the car from moving sideways while it also prevents it from going forward & backwards. Towed many times without ever screwing up paint & once as far as NY to VA with my friend's car when he moved. Another time I added a second pair at the rear while trailering my Road Runner through NJ on the Garden State Parkway where there are way too many idiots in narrow lanes.  ::)

(Just noticed that the Road Runner photo was before I had 8 large D-Rings welded to the front & rear of the trailer.)

Got them here.....

http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/product/pro-pack-premium-tie-down-kit-with-axle-straps/Package-Deals
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birdsandbees

1970 'Bird RM23UOA170163
1969 'Bee WM21H9A230241
1969 Dart Swinger LM23P9B190885
1967 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S
1966 Plymouth Satellite HP2 - 9941 original miles
1964 Dodge 440 62422504487

Old Moparz

               Bob                



              I Gotta Stop Taking The Bus

Petebell68

Never have I once had a problem with tires and belts with the straps .A friend of mine has towed his car like that all over Canada .
It keeps the car secure not sure what straps you've used .