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Author Topic: REAL Daytona hood - has these 2 indents near the bottom. Anything else?  (Read 1279 times)
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« on: November 30, 2017, 12:30:48 PM »

I was asked about the differences between a 70 Charger hood and a real Daytona hood.

There are the 'lumps' near the front.   2 hood pin holes.
The 'scallops' near the bottom are small, like a 1969 hood.
Then there are the 2 indents, one on each side, near the bottom.

Anything else?     


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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2017, 01:01:58 PM »

Well, that's nice !!!  2thumbs
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2017, 05:23:08 PM »

Well, that's nice !!!  2thumbs

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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2017, 07:02:31 PM »

My 70 Charger hood had the structural "lumps" at the front on the underside...I had to remove them in order to get the hood to close correctly
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2017, 07:05:44 PM »

My 70 Charger hood had the structural "lumps" at the front on the underside...I had to remove them in order to get the hood to close correctly

Latch tray in the way!
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2017, 08:23:54 PM »

i think there is a difference in the small holes near the bottom as well?
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 09:13:25 PM »

No hood wiring holes.
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 10:43:05 PM »

I have these 2 hoods
The one on the left has the crash ribs on the front and the hood blinker wiring holes
The one on the right  has no crash ribs and no wiring holes
Neither hood has the dents in the cross member closest to the hindges


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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 12:08:30 AM »

the hole differences i referred to are clearly visible in your photo


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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 05:10:52 AM »

Need to see the scallops under the rubber seal, along the bottom edge of the two hoods pictured above .
70 hood is large, 69, and 69 1/2, is small.  
 
Any differences in the hoods you have, 70 sublime??

Would be cool to get some pics of 100% original Daytona survivor hoods of the details mentioned above.  coolgleamA
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 11:00:32 AM »

Taken yesterday, legit unrestored Daytona hood.  Today I pulled back some of the leftover hood pad insulation, and there is no hole for the turn signal wiring as I expected.  It's all smooth (I just didn't snap a picture of it yesterday with the camera).



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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 11:11:42 AM »

Taken yesterday, legit unrestored Daytona hood.  Today I pulled back some of the leftover hood pad insulation, and there is no hole for the turn signal wiring as I expected.  It's all smooth (I just didn't snap a picture of it yesterday with the camera).


mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, need that old hood any more Mr. Geno?   icon_smile_big
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 11:17:22 AM »

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, need that old hood any more Mr. Geno?   icon_smile_big

Actually, no.

I also spied a small locating(?) hole that did not appear to be on another photo of a '70 Charger hood I had...  see below.  Is this another '69-specific trait?


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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 12:06:29 PM »

if i only had some spare change.....

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2017, 01:30:26 PM »

Taken yesterday, legit unrestored Daytona hood.  Today I pulled back some of the leftover hood pad insulation, and there is no hole for the turn signal wiring as I expected.  It's all smooth (I just didn't snap a picture of it yesterday with the camera).



Here's a 70 Charger hood with the large scallops near the bottom. Note: it does not have the indents like hemigeno's photo of an original Daytona hood.   

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2017, 02:31:54 PM »


Here's a 70 Charger hood with the large scallops near the bottom.

I've seen '70 Charger hoods with small scallops though.  Interestingly enough, they had no holes for the turn signal wiring either but did have crash ribs up front.  

From what I've seen so far, there are at least 3, if not 4, versions of '70 Charger hood stampings (apart from what MAY be the '69-Daytona-only pattern)
     1.  No crash ribs, no turn signal holes, (unknown rear scallop size, but I'm guessing small scallops), no indentations near hinges
     2.  Crash ribs, no turn signal holes, small rear scallops, no indentations near hinges
     3.  Crash ribs, turn signal holes, large rear scallops, no indentations near hinges
  
There's 1 or two other ideas I have about possible differences, but haven't had a chance to properly research them yet.


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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2017, 02:35:48 PM »

Dodge Don can shed more light on the wiring holes (or lack of) in the 70 hoods.....I think the early 70 hoods didn't have the turn signal wiring holes
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 04:37:20 PM »


Here's a 70 Charger hood with the large scallops near the bottom.

I've seen '70 Charger hoods with small scallops though.  Interestingly enough, they had no holes for the turn signal wiring either but did have crash ribs up front.  

From what I've seen so far, there are at least 3, if not 4, versions of '70 Charger hood stampings (apart from what MAY be the '69-Daytona-only pattern)
     1.  No crash ribs, no turn signal holes, (unknown rear scallop size, but I'm guessing small scallops), no indentations near hinges
     2.  Crash ribs, no turn signal holes, small rear scallops, no indentations near hinges
     3.  Crash ribs, turn signal holes, large rear scallops, no indentations near hinges
  
There's 1 or two other ideas I have about possible differences, but haven't had a chance to properly research them yet.




Looks like a Daytona only hood has: indents near hinges, small rear scallops, no crash ribs, no signal holes...
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 09:05:21 PM »

I moved a bunch of junk so I could get a picture of the bottom of my hood


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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2017, 08:54:30 AM »

I moved a bunch of junk so I could get a picture of the bottom of my hood

What size are the scallops along the bottom edge?
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2017, 09:02:59 AM »

I moved a bunch of junk so I could get a picture of the bottom of my hood

What size are the scallops along the bottom edge?

I pulled the rubber off the bottom edge and took some pictures
I have to resize the pictures so I can post them later this evening when I have time
Will you be able to post a picture of that same area on a real Daytona hood ?
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2017, 10:14:02 AM »


Jeez seems like this stuff was a big secret the last time we discussed it here. Guess its out in the open now. Shot of another real unrestored Daytona hood. The scallops are 1.9 " long at the bottom and 2.7 inches long where they blend in at top. So far I have not found Geno's locating hole in it. I wondered if you still had that hood Gene.


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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2017, 11:40:16 AM »

I moved a bunch of junk so I could get a picture of the bottom of my hood

What size are the scallops along the bottom edge?

I pulled the rubber off the bottom edge and took some pictures
I have to resize the pictures so I can post them later this evening when I have time
Will you be able to post a picture of that same area on a real Daytona hood ?

First photos on this thread are of a real Daytona hood...
The size of the scallops along the bottom edge are easily seen.   Small compared to a 1970 Charger hood.
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2017, 11:43:45 AM »


Jeez seems like this stuff was a big secret the last time we discussed it here. Guess its out in the open now. Shot of another real unrestored Daytona hood. The scallops are 1.9 " long at the bottom and 2.7 inches long where they blend in at top. So far I have not found Geno's locating hole in it. I wondered if you still had that hood Gene.

Photo posted shows an indent.
The scallops are along the bottom, usually obscured by the rubber seal. 

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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2017, 12:13:35 PM »


The scallops are along the bottom, usually obscured by the rubber seal.  


Here are a couple more pics without the rear hood seal. I might be missing exactly where the scallops are.  shruggy  Go figure!!   lol  I need to dig out a regular 70 Charger hood and compare the 2 side by side close up.



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