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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2018, 04:42:07 PM »

This board has a problem I encountered plenty of times back when I sold cars.

If you're selling a car, then all types will come out of the woodwork to nitpick your car, tell you you're way overpriced, and that they wouldnt give scrap price for your worthless junk. They're valuing your car like it's 1982, and old Chargers are worthless.

Now, if they're selling a car, it's usually listed for well above market value because "you'll never find another like it", and it just needs "a little" work to be perfect. They're valuing their car like it's 2005, the great recession hasn't happened, and Barrett Jackson fever is in full swing.

Every. Freaking. Time.
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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2018, 03:33:33 AM »

must be the guy from Australia who started a thread 


lol nope not me mate. if that was over here for 11k id buy it in a heartbeat. Something like that would go closer to 50k aussie lol.
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« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2018, 07:49:17 AM »

Car sold to a US buyer
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« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2018, 07:49:40 AM »

This board has a problem I encountered plenty of times back when I sold cars.

If you're selling a car, then all types will come out of the woodwork to nitpick your car, tell you you're way overpriced, and that they wouldnt give scrap price for your worthless junk. They're valuing your car like it's 1982, and old Chargers are worthless.

Now, if they're selling a car, it's usually listed for well above market value because "you'll never find another like it", and it just needs "a little" work to be perfect. They're valuing their car like it's 2005, the great recession hasn't happened, and Barrett Jackson fever is in full swing.

Every. Freaking. Time.
Exactly!
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« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2018, 07:52:28 AM »

I still want to know what did the discovery show say it was worth?
Please don't make us wait till it airs, LOL!!!!!!

they said 25-30K



WOW,!!!!
How do you think they valued it?
High, low, or right on the money?
Are the 2nd gen Chargers really THAT HOT?Huh
It makes me think about selling mine!!!!LOL, but then I could never, ever afford one again!!!!!

I would have thought it would be a $20,000. car
But I am not an auto appraiser.
yes, the market is really that hot, economy is good, and they aren't making them anymore... lol
I knew the car was worth $30k, and worst case that's what it was worth to me, which is why I was firm on my price.
Now on to shopping/hunting for a 68!
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« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2018, 09:37:58 AM »

Maybe it's just I don't WANT to believe they are worth that much, because then I will NEVER afford an R/T again!!!
I only got my second 1969 in 12/16 and paid $15,000.On ebay, I bid $16,000 and thought the car would go for $20 easy.(69,#'s 383 auto, solid CA car)
SO A) I got lucky
B) I don't know a thing about the value,LOL!!!

Good luck with your 68 search!
any 68, or a 1968 R/T?
You looking for a project or finished car?



 
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« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2018, 01:58:33 PM »

Well it makes my $700 dollar even better....
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« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2018, 03:17:19 PM »



Now on to shopping/hunting for a 68!


85 grand and it's all yours.....








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« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2018, 03:19:10 PM »

Ill take 45k for mine 
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« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2018, 04:27:55 PM »

The word "WORTH" is bullshit in respect to a cars value. An impulsive idiot pays a stupid price and now the car is deemed to be "WORTH" that price?
Wrong.
The car may have been worth it to one buyer but certainly not worth it to most people.
Financially, that car is not worth the sale price since the cost of a restoration would put its final value far below the money spent to build it.
It sold. Good for you.
Carry on, folks...
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« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2018, 12:10:16 AM »

The word "WORTH" is bullshit in respect to a cars value. An impulsive idiot pays a stupid price and now the car is deemed to be "WORTH" that price?
Wrong.
The car may have been worth it to one buyer but certainly not worth it to most people.
Financially, that car is not worth the sale price since the cost of a restoration would put its final value far below the money spent to build it.
It sold. Good for you.
Carry on, folks...

A car's value IS what it is worth.  And they are worth whatever the masses will pay.  At 75k for a restored R/T, maybe a project is worth 30k.
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« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2018, 03:36:30 PM »


The car may have been worth it to one buyer but certainly not worth it to most people.


You only sell your car to one person. So its worth what it sold for - because it sold.
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« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2018, 06:51:47 PM »

I still disagree. I have bought cars and later felt the car was not worth what I paid. I'll admit it. I am not the only one.
In the car sales business, the ACV was known as the "Actual Cash Value" of a used car. This was sometimes lower than numbers listed in the "Kelly Blue Book". The ACV was a guideline as to what amount of money a certain car could be bought for any day of the week. Sure, some days with lazy buyers, the car could sell for more but the point of the ACV was to establish a reliable gauge of value.
Just because ONE buyer steps up and overpays for a car does not mean that the car is worth that amount to the average buyer. It may be worth it to that one person if they have some emotional attachment, are desperate, in a hurry or suddenly flush with cash from a dead relative, insurance settlement or home REfinance.
If a seller posts up a car for an inflated price and is willing to sit on it waiting for some deep  pocket guy with an impulse control problem, that is his decision.
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« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2018, 07:33:44 PM »

That must be why whenever I am the highest bidder on Ebay that they average my bid with the lowest bid so I only have to pay the 'average' price?   shruggy
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« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2018, 08:06:52 PM »

I still disagree. I have bought cars and later felt the car was not worth what I paid. I'll admit it. I am not the only one.
In the car sales business, the ACV was known as the "Actual Cash Value" of a used car. This was sometimes lower than numbers listed in the "Kelly Blue Book". The ACV was a guideline as to what amount of money a certain car could be bought for any day of the week. Sure, some days with lazy buyers, the car could sell for more but the point of the ACV was to establish a reliable gauge of value.
Just because ONE buyer steps up and overpays for a car does not mean that the car is worth that amount to the average buyer. It may be worth it to that one person if they have some emotional attachment, are desperate, in a hurry or suddenly flush with cash from a dead relative, insurance settlement or home REfinance.
If a seller posts up a car for an inflated price and is willing to sit on it waiting for some deep  pocket guy with an impulse control problem, that is his decision.

Geez--what's up with the practical/logical thinking all the time?  2thumbs

On the topic of the value of a car--Those that research replacement insurance cost for "agreed value" will get yet another perspective on worth/value. slap
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« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2018, 05:54:14 AM »

It doesn't matter what anyone here thinks including me.

But what does matter IMO, is very simple.
The commodity was listed for a "firm" price, and it sold for that firm price within the specified sale timeframe.
Which, whether we like agree with the price paid as good value ? or not ?
 this sale now completed, will indeed form part of comparison valuations across the wider market.
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« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2018, 06:46:12 AM »

What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.
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« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2018, 07:19:10 AM »

What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.



Geez...you come along an inject some logic and reality into this thread, "what's a matter wit you!".... glad you sold the car and got what you wanted, and I'm sure the buyer got what they wanted, as long as both parties are content, that's all that matters, ten years from now when the prices are even higher for less of a vehicle, people will be saying what a deal  they got with prices 10 years ago... never ends
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« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2018, 07:44:19 AM »

Your car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it on the day you HAVE to sell...
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« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2018, 07:53:16 AM »

What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.

IMO, well said  2thumbs

  
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« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2018, 04:42:32 PM »

What a bunch of hypocrites the complainers on here are.  The delusional car thread has more delusional members than cars.  Maybe the people this applies to should lower their Insurance "agreed values" to what they think they should pay for a car. YEAH RIGHT, hypocrites.  Anything is worth what someone is willing to pay, PERIOD.  If you don't like the price, make an offer and if not accepted then don't buy it and move on.  You guys are turning into a bunch of Grumpy Old Men that complain about everything not to mention most of you aren't even looking to buy a car anyway unless someone practically gives it to you.

IMO, well said  2thumbs

  



I too agree with -Y1charger- And I am one of those "Grumpy Old Men". shruggy
I battle every day with the high (and increasing) cost of everything I encounter.

My/our sense of the value of money is the basic topic here. I feel the pinch because as I try to learn a new perspective and gain a current sense on the "value" of a dollar the rug is pulled further out from under my feet almost -by the day- in every place I shop.

Just today I had a conversation with my 40-year-old son on just this issue. He was telling me about (back in his day: icon_smile_wink:) he used to pay $1.80 for a gal. of gas. EEK.--I could go on but---- nana

As for the cost/value of our (hobby) cars go?----It will get as complicated as we let/allow it to get.

How many hours worked at one's job will one be willing to put in to buy into a passion/hobby?

A buyer needs to properly establish their limits. Sellers are as confused as buyers. No one want's to be foolish. We both/all are dealing with a moving target.--Value--








 
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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2018, 05:33:28 AM »

Ill take 45k for mine 


I'll give you 35 cash.
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« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2018, 07:34:53 AM »

Ill take 45k for mine  


I'll give you 35 cash.
40k will just about get me out of my medical bills  
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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2018, 09:26:57 AM »

It's the way the free market works.  Like it or not, it's better than the alternatives.
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« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2018, 02:39:45 PM »

Is that a reference to the car prices or his medial bills.....? Or maybe I missed a post. Been a long day!
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