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« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2016, 10:13:56 AM »

Does anyone know where you can get the moulded rubber blower motor mounting gasket for the '69 B body heat box??? Can't find as much as even a picture of one Googling. Closest I've found is a Ford gasket from Denis Carpenter Ford Restoration Parts

Also anyone on what those stickers would have been??  shruggy
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« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2016, 10:41:21 AM »

Not sure if this would help if you cant find the gasket.....just posted by b5blue
For odd ball stuff like that I use "Sugru". It's like putty that hardens to rubber.
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« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2016, 07:53:26 PM »

Thanks, fixed up what I had so I could complete the box and move onto my dash next.


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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2016, 09:37:46 PM »

Rubbed the metal down with gun oil today. What a visual difference and shouldn't rust again in my life time. Probably should have done the inside as well, but I'm not pulling it back apart!  rotz


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« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2016, 06:35:43 PM »

Does anyone know what these two "decals" would have been originally on the '69 heater box. Lynch Rd car...



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« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2016, 08:25:52 PM »

Not factory to my knowledge .
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« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2016, 08:30:50 PM »

Cars been in my family it's entire life... nobody put them there. Definitely some mfg stickers / part number or something. I media blasted them off when I restored the box. Just hoping someone has an idea what should be on a '69 box to be correct. My '70 'Bird box has a stamped part number. My '69 Bee never had same, just these stickers.
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« Reply #57 on: October 25, 2016, 11:37:39 AM »

Never seen those two decals...

Both of my 69's has the PN Stamp....One had the paper "Factory OK" tag on the heat control arm on top of the box(was suppose to be removed on the assembly line)

Beautiful job on the box BTW 2thumbs
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« Reply #58 on: October 25, 2016, 01:36:22 PM »

Thanks, is it the same part number stamp as the '70? The one in my 'Bird is factory stamped still...
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« Reply #59 on: October 25, 2016, 01:47:33 PM »

They are different......your welcome to borrow my stamp, just cover shipping....

It is 2837500
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« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2016, 02:00:12 PM »

They are different......your welcome to borrow my stamp, just cover shipping....

It is 2837500

THANKS! very much, I will keep it in mind as I work towards final assembly. Might be cheaper to have the local stationary guy make me one vs the postage from Texas to here and back, but we'll see. Again thanks for the offer!!  2thumbs

To edit.. just ordered a stamp online thru staples for $21 Cdn to my door. Will see how close it is to correct when I get it..  scratchchin
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« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2016, 01:07:12 PM »

What colour paint are you guys using for the stamp? Got my stamp already.. and want to give it a trial run..   yesnod
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« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2016, 08:23:19 PM »

Guess I'll just color match to the stamp on my '70 Bird box, thought someone would have a color for stamping..
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« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2017, 09:03:33 PM »

Shakey, thanks for sharing the process!  Going to tackle mine after Christmas.
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« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2018, 11:16:17 AM »

Took me all weekend, but I got it taken apart cleaned up and put back together.  The 50 year old fiberglass is brittle so my advice after doing this is be gentle!  I tightened down the fasteners just a little bit at a time all the way around the perimeter like I would if I was torquing a head since the new foam fits in snug.  Also, take lots of pictures as you go it will make the reassembly much easier.  I checked the fan motor and it was still good so lubed it up and put it back in.  My heater core was bad, but fortunately I had a spare so it got the fresh one.


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« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2019, 03:58:59 PM »

Guess I'll just color match to the stamp on my '70 Bird box, thought someone would have a color for stamping..
So birds and bees, Can u tell me what you used for the yellow paint for the part number stamp? A brand and part number or description would be a great help. I'm redoing my heater box now and would like to have the paint for when I'm ready to stamp the part number.
Thanks in advance for the info.
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« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2019, 05:19:48 PM »

Some can of yellow I had sitting on the shelf in the shop, I'll have to see it I wrote it down in my log.  That said I've since been kicking my ass as I asked many if they'd ever seen a paper sticker like mine had on the cover and everyone said no. I have since learned that this was a QC sticker and the part number may have been printed on the longer label and not stamped. Oh well.. it looks purdy!  lol


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« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2019, 07:35:01 PM »

In reading the various post on this subject in regards to the two paper tags, the A12 guys may have some input on the actual contents of what was printed on the tags.  Personally, I do not recall seeing them before.  They could very well be as you state some sort of quality control check.  Very interesting piece of history to be further researched.
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« Reply #68 on: January 17, 2019, 09:25:03 AM »

Some can of yellow I had sitting on the shelf in the shop, I'll have to see it I wrote it down in my log.  That said I've since been kicking my ass as I asked many if they'd ever seen a paper sticker like mine had on the cover and everyone said no. I have since learned that this was a QC sticker and the part number may have been printed on the longer label and not stamped. Oh well.. it looks purdy!  lol
Thanks birdsandbees. I want to match the yellow before I strip the paint off. if you could find any info on the yellow you used for the stamp, it would be greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2019, 01:59:08 PM »

I'm not going to certify that the colour is OE correct, but I held my test stamp (on black headliner material) up against my super birds heater box stamp and it's damn close, especially allowing 49 years for fade!

Krylon Fusion for plastic. Sunbeam 42330. I sprayed it out of the can onto a piece of cardboard, dipped the stamp and did a few test stamps to get it wet, Then new spray, dip.. stamp box.
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« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2020, 11:50:44 PM »

I know this is a pretty old thread but I thought the answer to my question might add some good information to it.

What kind of rivets do I used to replace the ones I’m going to drill out? I’m fairly certain that they are called “semi-hollow truss rivets” but I am not sure what size and what tool to use and where to get the rivets.
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« Reply #71 on: May 12, 2020, 08:32:32 PM »

I also noticed that the rivets are steel, not aluminum. Do I need to use stainless steel rivets?
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« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2021, 02:41:28 PM »

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« Reply #73 on: February 10, 2022, 07:40:36 PM »

Guess I'll just color match to the stamp on my '70 Bird box, thought someone would have a color for stamping..
So birds and bees, Can u tell me what you used for the yellow paint for the part number stamp? A brand and part number or description would be a great help. I'm redoing my heater box now and would like to have the paint for when I'm ready to stamp the part number.
Thanks in advance for the info.


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« Reply #74 on: February 11, 2022, 06:31:52 AM »

Guess I'll just color match to the stamp on my '70 Bird box, thought someone would have a color for stamping..
So birds and bees, Can u tell me what you used for the yellow paint for the part number stamp? A brand and part number or description would be a great help. I'm redoing my heater box now and would like to have the paint for when I'm ready to stamp the part number.
Thanks in advance for the info.


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Thanks Texasdoc!
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