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« on: June 12, 2018, 07:00:42 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 07:01:13 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 07:07:26 AM »

Daddy, the top came off.


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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 08:34:12 AM »

Up to $4200.00 WOW.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 08:39:11 AM »

Really, the roof...why?  shruggy
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 09:23:09 AM »

I say someone wanted a souvenir, being the roof isn't sold with it
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2018, 09:43:05 AM »

  
The ad says "the firefighters thought the doors were welded like the real GL and cut the roof off."    brickwall

He may be telling the truth.  Those C-pillars look bitten off, not cut through with a sawzall or torch.

That passenger door looks perfect.  Did they not even try the handle before assuming the doors were welded?
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 10:26:59 AM »

Maybe they cut the top off to use on LEE 1 after its top was cut off... smilielol
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 12:22:35 PM »

It reminds me of a news discussion on season 2 of the grand tour.

The hosts were joking about the frequency of roofs being cut off cars after minor accidents. In the end, the best reasoning they could come up with was that all men are over grown boys who will take any excuse to play with their toys, and in this case, the boys are firemen, and the toys are the cutting tools. They maybe right.

Such a shame, looks like it would have been a fixable car. I wonder if the driver was incapacitated, it looks like he could have walked out of it.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2018, 01:16:07 PM »

The real reason that firefighters cut the roof off a crashed car is because they deemed it necessary (judging by the crash impact damage) to keep the occupant's cervical spine in line. In order to do that, they put a neck brace on and slide the back board under the patient. Any door, roof or other items in the way of doing so will be removed.  It's cheaper to replace the car, than what a lifetime in a wheelchair because of paralyzation would cost. Once in the hospital after taking a cat scan/X rays, you can tell if it was necessary or not. But by then, it's a mute point.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2018, 01:43:40 PM »

  
I'm picturing a medical alert bracelet:

DIABETIC
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DO NOT USE JAWS ON MUSCLE CAR
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2018, 01:56:58 PM »

4k for that is funny.
I'll give him 400 on the buckets though.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2018, 03:35:28 PM »

 
I'm picturing a medical alert bracelet:

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DO NOT USE JAWS ON MUSCLE CAR




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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2018, 09:34:43 AM »

The real reason that firefighters cut the roof off a crashed car is because they deemed it necessary (judging by the crash impact damage) to keep the occupant's cervical spine in line. In order to do that, they put a neck brace on and slide the back board under the patient. Any door, roof or other items in the way of doing so will be removed.  It's cheaper to replace the car, than what a lifetime in a wheelchair because of paralyzation would cost. Once in the hospital after taking a cat scan/X rays, you can tell if it was necessary or not. But by then, it's a mute point.



If the point was silent, then yes. Otherwise, it's moot.  Twocents
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2018, 12:06:40 PM »

I see that mistake often but if I had pointed it out, Lennard would go off on yet another one of his rant/attacks.   RantExplode
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2018, 12:21:46 PM »

The real reason that firefighters cut the roof off a crashed car is because they deemed it necessary (judging by the crash impact damage) to keep the occupant's cervical spine in line. In order to do that, they put a neck brace on and slide the back board under the patient. Any door, roof or other items in the way of doing so will be removed.  It's cheaper to replace the car, than what a lifetime in a wheelchair because of paralyzation would cost. Once in the hospital after taking a cat scan/X rays, you can tell if it was necessary or not. But by then, it's a mute point.


How did you reach that conclusion from just seeing the pictures?

I'm just curious as I was an auto claims adjuster for 10 years and saw countless crashed vehicles and the ones where the jaws of life were needed or where a roof was cut off were much more destroyed than this Charger. Usually the car was upside down or so squashed that they couldn't access the driver or passenger.



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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2018, 12:42:51 PM »

Maybe because the C pillars look pinched rather than jagged like when you use a sawzall?
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2018, 12:46:01 PM »

Maybe because the C pillars look pinched rather than jagged like when you use a sawzall?


Yes, no doubt they hacked that thing off but I just am not convinced it was due to trying to prevent further injury.  Would love to know the back story on this one!!
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2018, 01:00:38 PM »

  
Look at the stub of the vent window frame in the foreground (bottom right).  That looks more like hydraulic jaws than a saw or torch/plasma.  

Who keeps a hydraulic jaws setup at home and uses it for parting out junk cars?  

Whatever the reason, the roof removal must have been done by the accident rescuers.  




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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2018, 01:08:42 PM »

my point is that this wreck doesn't match the cars Ive seen where jaws of life were needed.  The seats don't even look bent, usually they are twisted or bent.

The cars I see where the use the jaws usually look like this...


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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2018, 02:13:42 PM »

This  thing better have a wicked drivetrain in it
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2018, 02:19:56 PM »

This  thing better have a wicked drivetrain in it

The ebay ad says it has a 318 in it
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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2018, 01:12:03 AM »

Someone took offence to the flag.
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2018, 03:00:06 AM »


How did you reach that conclusion from just seeing the pictures?

I'm just curious as I was an auto claims adjuster for 10 years and saw countless crashed vehicles and the ones where the jaws of life were needed or where a roof was cut off were much more destroyed than this Charger. Usually the car was upside down or so squashed that they couldn't access the driver or passenger.

My reply was to JR, about him saying that "firefighters take any excuse to play with their toys."  I wasn't talking about this car in particular and I didn't reach a conclusion.  I was a professional firefighter longer than you were an auto claims adjuster and I've been there, done that, got the T-shirt and certification so I'm not just talking poopoo. Wink
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2018, 03:45:26 AM »

We need to see this T-shirt to verify your claims... lol
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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2018, 05:32:48 AM »

Lennard, I was referencing a joking conversation on the television show "The Grand Tour", in response to incidents like these.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/vauxhall/9796497/Good-Samaritan-Janice-Dunlop-given-replacement-car-by-Vauxhall.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3445284/Firemen-cut-roof-off-police-car.html

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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2018, 05:44:05 AM »


How did you reach that conclusion from just seeing the pictures?

I'm just curious as I was an auto claims adjuster for 10 years and saw countless crashed vehicles and the ones where the jaws of life were needed or where a roof was cut off were much more destroyed than this Charger. Usually the car was upside down or so squashed that they couldn't access the driver or passenger.

My reply was to JR, about him saying that "firefighters take any excuse to play with their toys."  I wasn't talking about this car in particular and I didn't reach a conclusion.  I was a professional firefighter longer than you were an auto claims adjuster and I've been there, done that, got the T-shirt and certification so I'm not just talking poopoo. Wink

I was referring to this car, the one the thread is about.
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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2018, 09:10:48 AM »

How can this auction possibly be up to $7500, sure there's some usable parts there but surely not $7500 worth?  Shocked
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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2018, 09:42:44 AM »

That is nuts. I have a 1970 Charger not 500 or R/T. With 383 hp. pistol grip 4 speed trac pac suspension tail panel trim buckets air tic tock tach and spoiler top banana . Numbers match. Needs restore. That must be worth $30,000.00 Ha
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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2018, 10:30:14 AM »

That is nuts. I have a 1970 Charger not 500 or R/T. With 383 hp. pistol grip 4 speed trac pac suspension tail panel trim buckets air tic tock tach and spoiler top banana . Numbers match. Needs restore. That must be worth $30,000.00 Ha
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« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2018, 02:20:10 PM »

  

Meanwhile, the aftermarket still thinks there wasn't adequate demand for a reproduction 68-70 Charger shell . . .
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« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2018, 05:47:44 PM »

 

Meanwhile, the aftermarket still thinks there wasn't adequate demand for a reproduction 68-70 Charger shell . . .


there will always be demand I'm afraid....When Dynacorn picked the Challenger it looked like a safe bet but it turned out to be a huge gamble that won't ever pay off. I don't see anyone making a Mopar body ever again.
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« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2018, 06:11:23 PM »

 
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there will always be demand I'm afraid....When Dynacorn picked the Challenger it looked like a safe bet but it turned out to be a huge gamble that won't ever pay off. I don't see anyone making a Mopar body ever again.

Safe bet?  I think their evidence for that was "Chrysler is making a new Challenger". (And that was done because Chrysler had totally underestimated the demand for a retro-bodied Charger.)


The 2nd-gen Chargers command almost as high prices as the Challengers (or equally high) and the production number was several times as much.  There is this longstanding assumption that the Challenger should get #1 priority in reproduction stuff - I question whether it has ever been justified.    

I wonder how much of the assumption has been driven by Ford/GM-centric repro companies looking at the Mopar market and saying: "The Challenger is the Camaro & Mustang sized Mopar . . . of course that's gonna be their #1 model." 

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there will always be demand I'm afraid....When Dynacorn picked the Challenger it looked like a safe bet but it turned out to be a huge gamble that won't ever pay off. I don't see anyone making a Mopar body ever again.

Safe bet?  I think their evidence for that was "Chrysler is making a new Challenger". (And that was done because Chrysler had totally underestimated the demand for a retro-bodied Charger.)


The 2nd-gen Chargers command almost as high prices as the Challengers (or equally high) and the production number was several times as much.  There is this longstanding assumption that the Challenger should get #1 priority in reproduction stuff - I question whether it has ever been justified.    

I wonder how much of the assumption has been driven by Ford/GM-centric repro companies looking at the Mopar market and saying: "The Challenger is the Camaro & Mustang sized Mopar . . . of course that's gonna be their #1 model." 



I agree with you. At the time (the early 2000's) the e bodies were king but I still don't know why they picked the Challenger over the Cuda. At the tine the Charger demand hadn't blown up yet; 2nd gen chargers could still be found and for decent prices. The Challenger was pretty hot. I was looking for an e body in the early 2000's and they were nuts!

I think that the Charger has dethroned the Cuda as the Mopar king. and I think the Challenger has fallen several places down on the Mopar totem pole.
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« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2018, 07:54:16 AM »

Still has the broadcast sheet so...
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