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Author Topic: RM23U0A164626 - part of an incredible auction in Terre Haute, Indiana June 2018  (Read 1219 times)
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« on: June 17, 2018, 09:36:55 PM »

 http://www.njgallivan.com/auction/332750/the-donald-e-don-smith-collection-session-vii-automobiles-race-cars/?utm_source=Hemmings&utm_medium=Showroom&utm_campaign=Sess7


the list of vehicles at this sale is jaw dropping


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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2018, 11:32:44 PM »

Are those rallye's painted green or are my eyes playing games with me?  shruggy
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2018, 12:17:43 AM »

Iíve been following this auction for 4 months now please let me have a chance at it guys. Iím just 22 and this is my dream car.
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2018, 01:11:22 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2018, 09:19:44 AM »

Iíve been following this auction for 4 months now please let me have a chance at it guys. Iím just 22 and this is my dream car.

Let him get it guys!-a nice guy, I have talked with him about my barn find. Ended up not doing the deal because I decided to keep the car but nice to see a young guy save, save, save to get what he wants!

Good luck Luis.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2018, 09:41:17 AM »

Iíve been following this auction for 4 months now please let me have a chance at it guys. Iím just 22 and this is my dream car.

Luis,
Though I'm no longer in my youth as you are, I understand the frustration and anxiety when you really have a passion for something and they look as though they are getting out of reach! I've ran across your Superbird 'wanted' Craigslist ads in my area for quite some time. It took me 10 years to replace the car pictured in my avatar with another Tor-Red 'bird. FYI...I will NOT be bidding against you...GOOD LUCK!  2thumbs 
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2018, 11:01:54 AM »

There was a 440+4 Tor-Red, auto on Column, bench seat car on e-bay a couple of weeks ago for 70K. Looked like a nice car with some issues. It disappeared rather quickly, I wonder what was the deal with it?

This one, even with the add on intake, will sell for a lot more I'm guessing.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2018, 11:05:30 AM »

Wonder why no pics of the interior. Sounds like a car that a late friend of mine sold in the 80s . Anyone have anymore details? Original dealer?
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2018, 03:46:00 PM »

Iíve been following this auction for 4 months now please let me have a chance at it guys. Iím just 22 and this is my dream car.

Let him get it guys!-a nice guy, I have talked with him about my barn find. Ended up not doing the deal because I decided to keep the car but nice to see a young guy save, save, save to get what he wants!

Good luck Luis.
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thank you Bob! I appreciate it. I have a higher limit now than before. Donít want to put my total on here in case anyone is going to bid against me but it has a buyerís premium of 15% in person and 18% online plus Indiana tax they charge on top of that of 7%. But I feel confident since it hadnít been posted on any forums til now just a few days before. I do have my plane ticket and auction tickets to bid in person.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2018, 03:47:38 PM »

Iíve been following this auction for 4 months now please let me have a chance at it guys. Iím just 22 and this is my dream car.

Luis,
Though I'm no longer in my youth as you are, I understand the frustration and anxiety when you really have a passion for something and they look as though they are getting out of reach! I've ran across your Superbird 'wanted' Craigslist ads in my area for quite some time. It took me 10 years to replace the car pictured in my avatar with another Tor-Red 'bird. FYI...I will NOT be bidding against you...GOOD LUCK!  2thumbs 

Thank you! And yeah Iíve been looking since 17. So 5 years now but I think i should have about enough of what itíll cost to win this one.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2018, 03:55:21 PM »

Wonder why no pics of the interior. Sounds like a car that a late friend of mine sold in the 80s . Anyone have anymore details? Original dealer?

It could possibly be it. The auction company gave me all the info they could on it. Wasnít much but the owner had purchased it in the 80ís and they said the restoration was done around that time. The restoration isnít anywhere near show quality but itís good enough for me. Itís a bench seat 440 auto column shift car. Iíve gotten pictures not on the listing and it has some paint chips biggest one being near the lower valance on the passenger side. Some paint drips. Some over spray on the interior by the door jambs. And the front lower balance looks like it could be fiberglass because in about half the pictures I have the pai on it looks like it has plastic wrap for sandwiches. So Iím assuming fiberglass. Iíll be able to better tell in person. Thereís other small things here and there but nothing major and a few things Iíd get restored like the exhaust manifolds and wiper motor and a couple other things. But itís my favorite color combo on a superbird and I donít mind it being a bench seat column shift at all. I just really want a superbird. Iíll let you guys all know if I do manage to get it. Thanks!
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2018, 03:59:27 PM »

Wonder why no pics of the interior. Sounds like a car that a late friend of mine sold in the 80s . Anyone have anymore details? Original dealer?

I also know the car was bought new in rushville Indiana, and from there not sure who owned it before becoming part of Don Smithís car collection.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2018, 04:00:36 PM »

Flying in from California to attend the auction in person...impressive! I may be wrong, but why would you be exposed to Indiana sales tax when you're going to bring the car back to California?
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2018, 05:42:35 PM »

Wonder why no pics of the interior. Sounds like a car that a late friend of mine sold in the 80s . Anyone have anymore details? Original dealer?

I also know the car was bought new in rushville Indiana, and from there not sure who owned it before becoming part of Don Smithís car collection.

Not the one I was angling for. I'm from ne Iowa
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2018, 07:02:50 PM »

Flying in from California to attend the auction in person...impressive! I may be wrong, but why would you be exposed to Indiana sales tax when you're going to bring the car back to California?

Yes. I want to see the car in person if Iím going to spend that kind of money. I also figured Iíd take vacation and visit family I have up in Wisconsin afterwards for the week. And the 3% buyers premium difference from 15% onsite to 18% online bidding will make a difference in final costs if the bids get really high. The company auctioning it off charges the Indiana sales tax. Not sure why maybe because theyíre an auction/estate sale company? The good thing is I did research and California is a state that if you pay sales tax to them then you donít have to pay it here as long as you show proof. Unless taxes here are higher on a vehicle purchase then u just pay the difference which is half a percent higher in California only.
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2018, 07:12:40 PM »

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that's where my daytona was sold new


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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2018, 07:21:58 PM »

Flying in from California to attend the auction in person...impressive! I may be wrong, but why would you be exposed to Indiana sales tax when you're going to bring the car back to California?

Yes. I want to see the car in person if Iím going to spend that kind of money. I also figured Iíd take vacation and visit family I have up in Wisconsin afterwards for the week. And the 3% buyers premium difference from 15% onsite to 18% online bidding will make a difference in final costs if the bids get really high. The company auctioning it off charges the Indiana sales tax. Not sure why maybe because theyíre an auction/estate sale company? The good thing is I did research and California is a state that if you pay sales tax to them then you donít have to pay it here as long as you show proof. Unless taxes here are higher on a vehicle purchase then u just pay the difference which is half a percent higher in California only.

Guess I'm fortunate Minnesota doesn't collect sales tax on collector status vehicles...WHEW! 
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2018, 08:58:39 PM »

Flying in from California to attend the auction in person...impressive! I may be wrong, but why would you be exposed to Indiana sales tax when you're going to bring the car back to California?

Yes. I want to see the car in person if Iím going to spend that kind of money. I also figured Iíd take vacation and visit family I have up in Wisconsin afterwards for the week. And the 3% buyers premium difference from 15% onsite to 18% online bidding will make a difference in final costs if the bids get really high. The company auctioning it off charges the Indiana sales tax. Not sure why maybe because theyíre an auction/estate sale company? The good thing is I did research and California is a state that if you pay sales tax to them then you donít have to pay it here as long as you show proof. Unless taxes here are higher on a vehicle purchase then u just pay the difference which is half a percent higher in California only.

Guess I'm fortunate Minnesota doesn't collect sales tax on collector status vehicles...WHEW! 
Thatís pretty nice! California tries to tax on every little thing they can. So registration fees will be a little high but definitely worth it
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2018, 10:58:52 PM »

Almost every State wants and needs the money from Registrations and licensing to pay for roads. Someone has to pay for them. California is little different in application from other states. If one does not want to pay, license your car under Montana's system and see how that works.

Everyone complains when the bridges fall down, the streets aren't paved, and potholes abound. None of us feel we are personally responsible for maintaining any roads. Electric cars pay no gas tax why should I; I hardly drive-why should I pay so much; businesses should pay-not individuals?
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2018, 08:17:43 PM »

Anyone know what this car went for?
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2018, 09:09:40 PM »

I know our friend Luis got it-he texted me the pictures!
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2018, 06:08:10 AM »

No kidding! That's awesome! Glad to see an enthusiast end up with a car rather than a dealer.  2thumbs
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2018, 07:02:43 AM »

Now he needs to bring it to the Talladega Aero Warriors Reunion next year to share it with us!
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2018, 07:18:46 AM »

Anyone know what this car went for?

Hey guys, hadnít posted since I donít have the best cell service where Iím staying on vacation but I did get it. I think I got a deal on it. $74K plus 15% buyerís premium and 7% Indiana tax. It totaled at 91,057. The car looks better in the pictures but itís still a really good driver so since I want to actually drive it and enjoy it I wonít need to restore it. just drive it as is.

Iíll post pictures once itís delivered to my house.
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2018, 10:17:56 AM »

Congrats! cheers   Looks pretty damn good in the pictures.  What is "off" about it?
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