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Superbird RM23U0A175587 now has a fake fender tag?

Started by Alaskan_TA, August 13, 2018, 03:15:14 PM

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charger_fan_4ever

If he wasnt called out it would have been passed off as a fake. Ok so now he has admitted it, that is all fine and dandy.

Fast forward 15 years and 2 owners down the road and it will be passed off again as the real deal. Thats the problem.

Aero426

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on August 16, 2018, 08:22:06 AM


Fast forward 15 years and 2 owners down the road and it will be passed off again as the real deal. Thats the problem.

You just nailed it.

RealWing

1970 Superbird 440-6bbl
1969 Barracuda 340 Formula S
1969 Barracuda convertible  6.1 L Hemi
2015 BMW K1600 GTL

nvrbdn

Looks like it was a successful attempt to keep things on the up and up as far as the DC.Com community is concerned. I will wait around to see if someone that hasn't been around and has a pocket full of cash and a dream of owning a special classic car jumps on that car, then goes searching for a web site that supports these wonderful cars and ends up here smiling from ear to ear excited to show off his perfectly restored Superbird.
70 Dodge Charger 500
70 Duster (Moulin Rouge)
73 Challenger
50 Dodge Pilot House

Birdflu

It's sad that the perception of a car can be so drastically affected by a re-popped inaccurate fender tag. In defense of the car...she looks wonderful AND is still a real Superbird! I'm certain it would have been better accepted if it either had it's original EW1 fender tag or NO fender tag at all!

fastmark

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on August 16, 2018, 08:22:06 AM
If he wasnt called out it would have been passed off as a fake. Ok so now he has admitted it thats all fine and dandy.

Fast forward 15 years and 2 owners down the road and it will be passed off again as the real deal. Thats the problem.

Exactly. I have a client looking for a Superbird. She would pay more for limelight four speed over a white column auto. That is the definition of fraud, anyway you look at it.

charger_fan_4ever

I assume someone directed him to the thread? or was the conscience that bad, he found it on his own by looking lol :slap:

Aero426

Quote from: charger_fan_4ever on August 16, 2018, 02:11:43 PM
I assume someone directed him to the thread? or was the conscience that bad, he found it on his own by looking lol :slap:

Someone may have used "ask seller a question".   Or he may lurk or even be a member here.     

It would not surprise me if someday,  this car may show up with one of those fake Ebay build sheets from seller "vin-number aged".     Provenance priced from only $289.00    :2thumbs:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOPAR-BROADCAST-SHEET-1969-1970-71-72-73-74-Charger-Challenger-Cuda-Road-Runner/153117850093?hash=item23a688f9ed:g:8VAAAOSwr0ZXNoYF

A383Wing

Doug provided proof of what the car was back in the day.....seller of the car must have seen that but does not acknowledge the pictures or the DSAC registry form......I bet he's backpedaling and will be stuck with that 'Bird for a while now, unless he can find some unsuspecting person to con the car off to him

Birdflu


hemi-hampton

I'm not buying his new story.  wonder why he didn't picture the original fender tag they had all along?  :scratchchin: :shruggy:

WINGIN IT


fastmark

Well, here in Texas when we're walking through the pasture and we see a rattle snake or cow pie, we do the "Texas two step" and avoid getting bit or stink on your boots. Any way. Looks like the internet may have informed the public and an unsuspecting person won't pay the price.

steve817

Nice car, however, the fender tag screw head size is incorrect :rotz:

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Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

charger chris

 :cheers: at least the tag is out for every one to see. And hopefully that fake tag is cut up.
i am a fair person and up frount person and try to help if i can. i love my mopars thats. all i ever owned first car was my 69 charger at the age of 15.

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62 Max

Quote from: steve817 on August 20, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
Nice car, however, the fender tag screw head size is incorrect :rotz:

Now were worrying about the size of a screw head  !!!   ::)

Birdflu

Quote from: 62 Max on August 21, 2018, 08:52:35 AM
Quote from: steve817 on August 20, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
Nice car, however, the fender tag screw head size is incorrect :rotz:

Now were worrying about the size of a screw head  !!!   ::)

LOL! My thought as well...

charger_fan_4ever

One failed ATTEMPT at a fake car sale(no sale even) has tarnished the guys reputation. Didn't even make $1 because of it.

WINGIN IT

Quote from: steve817 on August 20, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
Nice car, however, the fender tag screw head size is incorrect :rotz:

That's ok, the fender tag it's holding is incorrect as well...  ;D

Now if they put back the original , that's a problem...  :yesnod:  :D

WINGIN IT

so opinions on WIW in it's current configuration?

70 sublime

I might be biased because I like the green colour but I do not think it would be worth any less ( or more ) painted this colour than the same car right back to factory tag specifications
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Aero426

Quote from: 70 sublime on August 21, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
I might be biased because I like the green colour but I do not think it would be worth any less ( or more ) painted this colour than the same car right back to factory tag specifications

I could see that.   It will take a buyer agreeable to the color/transmission/rear end "upgrades" that wants a really pretty car versus a restored to the tag car.    As the old saying goes, there is an ass for every seat. 

charger_fan_4ever

Quote from: 70 sublime on August 21, 2018, 12:58:17 PM
I might be biased because I like the green colour but I do not think it would be worth any less ( or more ) painted this colour than the same car right back to factory tag specifications

The big dollar cars seem to always take a hit if not "correct". Fake tag aside, say this car had no tag on it. The seller said here is the real tag from when it white an auto. Id say value unaffected compared to it being white.

BUT most buyers with the $$ of these cars are purists.