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« on: September 07, 2018, 11:23:27 PM »

Well...just throwing this out there...

What would you guys be willing to pay for this original door off Big Willy's Daytona? It's just a cool piece of history that I wouldn't mind hanging in our bar/hobby room. A buddy of mine has it and he's probably willing to let it go, but is requiring an offer from me. Yeah, I know, it's worth whatever it's worth. Just looking for some opinions on what you guys would be willing to pay for wall art.  shruggy



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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2018, 12:52:27 AM »

With no signature or documentation, $100.  another door off a used car, and priced as such.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2018, 06:06:29 AM »

No insult however I think $100 dollars is a rather weak offer, heck a good charger door should bring at least double that.
My thought is it is worth around $500 how you get there with haggling back and forth remains to be seen by someone.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2018, 07:32:31 AM »

With no signature or documentation, $100.  another door off a used car, and priced as such.


I'd have to agree, just a used door, $100 as it's probably just a shell, I never could understand the fascination with the autograph/memorabilia/graffiti "thing" on cars or car parts... scratchchin shruggy  
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2018, 09:15:09 AM »

you might make him mad by saying 100 ..........  i think 500.00 is a fair offer  2thumbs
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2018, 09:52:28 AM »

Hmmmmm tough one, yea its worth whatever you wanna pay is correct, I mean if you want it that bad maybe 500-1000, all depends how bad you want it and what it means to you. Very cool piece thats for sure!
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2018, 04:07:53 PM »

$500 WAS THE FIRST PRICE THAT CAME TO MIND. LEON.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2018, 07:09:10 AM »

Looks to be a Clean and Rust free Charger door.  It's funny that people say it's worth $100 but these same people would never sell a clean rust free door shell for $100.   AMD door shells sell for $700 and I've seen good clean original charger doors shells sell for $400-$500.  It will always be worth what a Clean and Rust free Charger door is worth and it's an added bonus if it's worth little more for the history.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2018, 09:18:29 AM »

I'd paid a grand , just cost so much to freight to uk , would be nice next to the old race nose from my car
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2018, 09:28:04 AM »

With no signature or documentation, $100.  another door off a used car, and priced as such.


I'd have to agree, just a used door, $100 as it's probably just a shell, I never could understand the fascination with the autograph/memorabilia/graffiti "thing" on cars or car parts... scratchchin shruggy  

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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2018, 12:16:53 PM »

Some people have no appreciation for history.

If I saw it at a swap meet for $300.00 or so, I'd bring it home.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2018, 12:45:23 PM »

Some people have no appreciation for history.

If I saw it at a swap meet for $300.00 or so, I'd bring it home.
I agree.  $300 would be a fair price.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2018, 03:43:41 PM »

Some people have no appreciation for history.

If I saw it at a swap meet for $300.00 or so, I'd bring it home.

Agreed. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2018, 04:03:57 PM »

I was thinking up to $1000. $100 is a steal, authenticated or not.
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2018, 05:34:21 PM »

So this is a door off the car that was in the American Racing Wheels ad in Car Craft in October 1970. Is that correct??
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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2018, 05:42:13 PM »

Check the photos here at http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=14491.150
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2018, 07:51:11 AM »

Hmmmmm tough one, yea its worth whatever you wanna pay is correct, I mean if you want it that bad maybe 500-1000, all depends how bad you want it and what it means to you. Very cool piece thats for sure!

Agree completely.   How do you put a price on a 1 of 1 item?      I realize Big Willie is not Richard Petty.   But he has a legacy and a following, especially to someone who might have met him.   Short of buying the complete car, what other Big Willie memorabilia is out there?   There are enough photos of the car before restoration to document that door.    

Last time I checked, the diecast models of BW's cars were selling for more than $100. 


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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2018, 07:59:33 AM »

So this is a door off the car that was in the American Racing Wheels ad in Car Craft in October 1970. Is that correct??


That should be the King Daytona.     
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2018, 08:09:07 AM »

Dumb question, but wasn't this  car restored?
If so why wasn't this door used in the resto??
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2018, 12:16:26 PM »

Dumb question, but wasn't this  car restored?
If so why wasn't this door used in the resto??

Yup back to oem sadly.
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2018, 02:13:19 PM »

Dumb question, but wasn't this  car restored?
If so why wasn't this door used in the resto??

Yup back to oem sadly.

It was restored to the lettered up "race configuration".

I asked the same question about the door being separated from the car.     Had it been used, the original lettering would be gone.   I guess someone wanted a souvenir.   
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2018, 03:04:41 PM »

Im not sure what to think anymore, at the last mopar show I went to someone wanted $450 for an original Tuff wheel, so going off that I think 500 for an entire door with cool history seems pretty reasonable for an art piece.

Personally, I would top out at 250. Coolness aside the fact of the matter is it would probably get hung up and collect dust until someone else offered me money for it. Im still trying to expand my tool inventory so the garage-art funds are limited. Very neat piece though, thanks for posting pictures and good luck!
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2018, 04:49:05 PM »

I wonder if the other door was used in the resto? maybe 2 doors available scratchchin
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2018, 04:56:52 PM »

It was restored to the lettered up "race configuration".

I asked the same question about the door being separated from the car.     Had it been used, the original lettering would be gone.   I guess someone wanted a souvenir.   

Doug, you're exactly correct! The door was kept as a souvenir since the original lettering was going to be lost during the restoration.
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2018, 04:58:59 PM »

I wonder if the other door was used in the resto? maybe 2 doors available scratchchin

Only one was kept... Undecided
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2018, 07:01:25 AM »

I would offer $500 easy...
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2018, 07:07:54 AM »

I wonder if the other door was used in the resto? maybe 2 doors available scratchchin

Only one was kept... Undecided

Now that makes even less sense.

I could understand there being value if the car didn't exist anymore, but it does, and it's been fully restored.

Here , have my throw away, it wasn't worth putting back on the car...

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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2018, 08:32:20 AM »



Here , have my throw away, it wasn't worth putting back on the car...




While the door may "look good", in person it may have been junk? hence the wall art, as wall art is usually just that; junk,  ...as far as the actual car, it was so rotted, not much of the original vehicle remained anyway, but at least is was recreated...
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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2018, 09:38:38 AM »



Here , have my throw away, it wasn't worth putting back on the car...




While the door may "look good", in person it may have been junk? hence the wall art, as wall art is usually just that; junk,  ...as far as the actual car, it was so rotted, not much of the original vehicle remained anyway, but at least is was recreated...

While I appreciate everyone's input about price, it wasn't my intent to 'rile up the crowd' on what was or should have been done to the car. It was made clear to me that the door in question, which is in great shape by the way, was retained so the artist not only had a paper stencil to use when re-producing the graphics, but also the physical 'original' sitting next to him while he was hand lettering the doors. In the cars defense, I would have a hard time calling it 'rotted' or 'recreated'. Yes, the rear window plug area created some challenges, but the car to this day retains it's original nose, fenders, inner fenders, doors(well...at least one of them), all frame rails, floor pans, rear quarters, tail panel and roof skin. A section of the rear floor pan was replaced where the pinion snubber decided to make an appearance into the back seat. As expected, the car saw a replacement trunk pan as well. Both quarters received patches for and aft of the rear wheel openings. Call it what you will, I believe everyone on this forum will agree...it's a COOL car!  yesnod   
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« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2018, 09:56:17 AM »

Dumb question, but wasn't this  car restored?
If so why wasn't this door used in the resto??

Yup back to oem sadly.

It was restored to the lettered up "race configuration".

I asked the same question about the door being separated from the car.     Had it been used, the original lettering would be gone.   I guess someone wanted a souvenir.   

My bad i thought this one went back to oem.
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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2018, 04:00:55 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2018, 09:39:24 PM »



Here , have my throw away, it wasn't worth putting back on the car...




While the door may "look good", in person it may have been junk? hence the wall art, as wall art is usually just that; junk,  ...as far as the actual car, it was so rotted, not much of the original vehicle remained anyway, but at least is was recreated...

While I appreciate everyone's input about price, it wasn't my intent to 'rile up the crowd' on what was or should have been done to the car. It was made clear to me that the door in question, which is in great shape by the way, was retained so the artist not only had a paper stencil to use when re-producing the graphics, but also the physical 'original' sitting next to him while he was hand lettering the doors. In the cars defense, I would have a hard time calling it 'rotted' or 'recreated'. Yes, the rear window plug area created some challenges, but the car to this day retains it's original nose, fenders, inner fenders, doors(well...at least one of them), all frame rails, floor pans, rear quarters, tail panel and roof skin. A section of the rear floor pan was replaced where the pinion snubber decided to make an appearance into the back seat. As expected, the car saw a replacement trunk pan as well. Both quarters received patches for and aft of the rear wheel openings. Call it what you will, I believe everyone on this forum will agree...it's a COOL car!  yesnod  


Interesting?... French said he tossed one of the doors because it was so badly rusted, yet this door/wall art in question is supposedly in "great shape by the way", so I can't see it still having an original door on it?, I know the original fiberglass hood (French substituted a steel replacement) and glass trunk were replaced along with the repairs you mentioned, IIRC the firewall was also cut up on this car ?  

But on the same note, the late Jack McGaughey (wingcarfab.com) contacted me around 2011/12 and said he was going to be building a nose and front lower valance and possibly a rear plug for the Big Willie Daytona (whether he was rebuilding the originals, or making repros I don't know/recall) and needed a set of Z bars for the nose, I ended up selling Jack 2 sets of my repro Z bars, supposedly to be used on the Big Willie Tona' and another customers car Jack was working on

I agree, it's a cool car, and Big Willie was a righteous fellow, but I still wouldn't pay no more than $100 for that door, and it would have to be usable  icon_smile_big

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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2018, 10:08:54 PM »

I Don't see any rust on front of door. Post a picture of the back of door, any rust on backside? LEON.
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2018, 06:24:09 AM »

1000.00

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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2018, 09:37:05 AM »



Here , have my throw away, it wasn't worth putting back on the car...




While the door may "look good", in person it may have been junk? hence the wall art, as wall art is usually just that; junk,  ...as far as the actual car, it was so rotted, not much of the original vehicle remained anyway, but at least is was recreated...

While I appreciate everyone's input about price, it wasn't my intent to 'rile up the crowd' on what was or should have been done to the car. It was made clear to me that the door in question, which is in great shape by the way, was retained so the artist not only had a paper stencil to use when re-producing the graphics, but also the physical 'original' sitting next to him while he was hand lettering the doors. In the cars defense, I would have a hard time calling it 'rotted' or 'recreated'. Yes, the rear window plug area created some challenges, but the car to this day retains it's original nose, fenders, inner fenders, doors(well...at least one of them), all frame rails, floor pans, rear quarters, tail panel and roof skin. A section of the rear floor pan was replaced where the pinion snubber decided to make an appearance into the back seat. As expected, the car saw a replacement trunk pan as well. Both quarters received patches for and aft of the rear wheel openings. Call it what you will, I believe everyone on this forum will agree...it's a COOL car!  yesnod  


Interesting?... French said he tossed one of the doors because it was so badly rusted, yet this door/wall art in question is supposedly in "great shape by the way", so I can't see it still having an original door on it?, I know the original fiberglass hood (French substituted a steel replacement) and glass trunk were replaced along with the repairs you mentioned, IIRC the firewall was also cut up on this car ?  

But on the same note, the late Jack McGaughey (wingcarfab.com) contacted me around 2011/12 and said he was going to be building a nose and front lower valance and possibly a rear plug for the Big Willie Daytona (whether he was rebuilding the originals, or making repros I don't know/recall) and needed a set of Z bars for the nose, I ended up selling Jack 2 sets of my repro Z bars, supposedly to be used on the Big Willie Tona' and another customers car Jack was working on

I agree, it's a cool car, and Big Willie was a righteous fellow, but I still wouldn't pay no more than $100 for that door, and it would have to be usable  icon_smile_big

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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2018, 10:32:19 AM »



Here , have my throw away, it wasn't worth putting back on the car...




While the door may "look good", in person it may have been junk? hence the wall art, as wall art is usually just that; junk,  ...as far as the actual car, it was so rotted, not much of the original vehicle remained anyway, but at least is was recreated...

While I appreciate everyone's input about price, it wasn't my intent to 'rile up the crowd' on what was or should have been done to the car. It was made clear to me that the door in question, which is in great shape by the way, was retained so the artist not only had a paper stencil to use when re-producing the graphics, but also the physical 'original' sitting next to him while he was hand lettering the doors. In the cars defense, I would have a hard time calling it 'rotted' or 'recreated'. Yes, the rear window plug area created some challenges, but the car to this day retains it's original nose, fenders, inner fenders, doors(well...at least one of them), all frame rails, floor pans, rear quarters, tail panel and roof skin. A section of the rear floor pan was replaced where the pinion snubber decided to make an appearance into the back seat. As expected, the car saw a replacement trunk pan as well. Both quarters received patches for and aft of the rear wheel openings. Call it what you will, I believe everyone on this forum will agree...it's a COOL car!  yesnod  


Interesting?... French said he tossed one of the doors because it was so badly rusted, yet this door/wall art in question is supposedly in "great shape by the way", so I can't see it still having an original door on it?, I know the original fiberglass hood (French substituted a steel replacement) and glass trunk were replaced along with the repairs you mentioned, IIRC the firewall was also cut up on this car ?  

But on the same note, the late Jack McGaughey (wingcarfab.com) contacted me around 2011/12 and said he was going to be building a nose and front lower valance and possibly a rear plug for the Big Willie Daytona (whether he was rebuilding the originals, or making repros I don't know/recall) and needed a set of Z bars for the nose, I ended up selling Jack 2 sets of my repro Z bars, supposedly to be used on the Big Willie Tona' and another customers car Jack was working on

I agree, it's a cool car, and Big Willie was a righteous fellow, but I still wouldn't pay no more than $100 for that door, and it would have to be usable  icon_smile_big

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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2018, 11:04:02 AM »

smilielol smart man 
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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2018, 09:54:52 PM »

Well...just throwing this out there...

What would you guys be willing to pay for this original door off Big Willy's Daytona? It's just a cool piece of history that I wouldn't mind hanging in our bar/hobby room. A buddy of mine has it and he's probably willing to let it go, but is requiring an offer from me. Yeah, I know, it's worth whatever it's worth. Just looking for some opinions on what you guys would be willing to pay for wall art.  shruggy


$300 and have a few "back in the day" pictures around it would really cool garage art.
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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2018, 09:58:13 PM »

Wow, Big differences in price, some say $100 & some say $1050. scratchchin shruggy
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2018, 07:36:11 AM »

Wow, Big differences in price, some say $100 & some say $1050. scratchchin shruggy

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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2018, 09:35:41 AM »

Wow, Big differences in price, some say $100 & some say $1050. scratchchin shruggy

Some appreciate history, some don't.    Cheesy

So,how much is history worth,a lot to some,not so much to most !  As far as a $1050 price,for myself,I could find a much better way to spend it,but thats just me. shruggy
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« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2018, 11:50:12 AM »

Wow, Big differences in price, some say $100 & some say $1050. scratchchin shruggy

Some appreciate history, some don't.    Cheesy

So,how much is history worth,a lot to some,not so much to most !  As far as a $1050 price,for myself,I could find a much better way to spend it,but thats just me. shruggy

I had replied $300., if seen at a swap meet.   I'm not a huge fan to pay anywhere near 4 figures!   Twocents
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Wow, Big differences in price, some say $100 & some say $1050. scratchchin shruggy

The truth in any WIW type thread will be what someone, maybe just one person is willing to pay - if they step up & actually pay it.

That said, when I ask WIW in a thread of my own, I usually toss the lowest & highest number out the door & average the rest to get a general idea.

Then I price it lower, whatever the item may be & sometimes (but not always by a long shot) the item sells.

Everyone may have an opinion, but not everyone with an opinion has money they are willing to pay. scratchchin
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« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2018, 06:21:06 AM »

In other words: Cash talks, bullshit walks.

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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2018, 10:03:10 AM »

I for one raced at his raceway in Terminal Island. I met and spoke with Willie many nights at the track. He was a man of conviction and tried to move heaven and earth to provide us with a safe place. With that being said I am more apt to pay more for something like this. Id pay 500 for something like this and it would look killer hanging on my wall in my shop.
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« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2018, 12:47:41 PM »

I will buy it , please call me I PM my number , but screw it my number is 270 945 2981 ... Gary French... And also I have no clue why the door got replaced because it wasn't that bad but I'm glad it did if I can buy it
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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2018, 11:09:09 AM »

Great subject guys.
Big Willie is a legend and $1000 is well cheap for a piece of Daytona history.
I love the 'old timers' saying $100 for a door.
Last time I was at the Spring Fling a 69 Charger door was $500+...

I bought a R/H 69 Charger fender off 'one' of the FAST-FIVE F&F film cars (as 4 of them were 69's), he had all 4 pairs.
The best one was $1200 (as the guy wanted double the price of a new one), the worst one $600 and probably too far gone to repair?

Yep I had to have it, so I haggled him down to $600 for the best one and was pleased as punch!!!
I love the fender so much that I never fitted it to my 69 500, its far too SEXY...

Found another one at a UK Swap meet for $50, never say never, they are still out there... 2thumbs nana slap


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« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2018, 07:57:54 PM »

I will buy it , please call me I PM my number , but screw it my number is 270 945 2981 ... Gary French... And also I have no clue why the door got replaced because it wasn't that bad but I'm glad it did if I can buy it
My opinion would be to let the owner of the car now have first shot at it. shruggy
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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2018, 05:12:32 AM »

Do not Know if a good comparison BUT I have painted up 69 Charger doors (condition from Bad to good) painted them Orange and put the 01 on them and got $600 all day long... 2thumbs
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« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2018, 07:20:00 AM »

Do not Know if a good comparison BUT I have painted up 69 Charger doors (condition from Bad to good) painted them Orange and put the 01 on them and got $600 all day long... 2thumbs




You know what P.T. Barnum said....
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« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2018, 02:40:15 PM »

Here you go:   

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/68-70-dodge-charger-door-100-oo.160909/
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« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2018, 05:09:55 AM »

Good deal for someone close by!

Best colour too... slap
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« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2018, 07:12:46 AM »

baby sh#t green?  rofl
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