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« on: September 10, 2018, 09:31:37 PM »

Member 5HUNERT and I met Paul, another 500 owner this weekend. Neat car that is NOT currently in the 500 registry: 440/727, Console, PDB, PS, factory W1 with tan interior, SE package, and super cool Bee-Liever dealer add on which consists of Eddy CH4B intake, Holley carb, and headers. A lot is still original, it's a crusty driver last tabbed in 1978. It's driving capability was demonstrated with several rapid, smokey, circular motions on the road in front of the gas pumps. icon_smile_cool Apparently it only turns left like a 500 should.

Story is that the car sat unsold until 1971 until the Bee-liever was added on and then was sold to the original owner. It was later abandoned on a property and was sold to the current owner for pocket change in 1987. Paul is a super nice guy, and I'm only partially saying that because he bought us burgers and brews at the watering hole.

It was a wonderful Sunday  cheers


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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2018, 10:11:29 PM »

Nice to see the cobwebs come off it
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 11:47:10 PM »

Thanks for the pics and story, love reading stuff like this ! The bee-liever package is cool  coolgleamA I have a CH4B for my 500 too. Is this bee-liever package specific to one dealer?
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 12:22:33 AM »

 Shocked coolgleamA  wow  , great stuff thanks for sharing the pictures & info   cheers
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 12:54:39 AM »

from the 1970 Hustle Stuff Catalog coolgleamA

anyone have the spec's of a Racer Brown SSH-25 cam?


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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2018, 07:00:45 AM »

Here ya go.

http://www.4secondsflat.com/RB%20Cam%20Specs.htm


The MoPar guys could never get their own cams to make the same power as the Racer Brown cams!  Even "exact" copies of RB cams didn't do it!
There was something about the opening and closing ramps they could not get right!!!

A lot of the 426 stock car engines ran Racer Brown cams. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2018, 10:16:33 AM »

Wow that thing is awesome.  He should sign up for the MCACN Barn Finds and Hidden Gems section!
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2018, 10:25:10 AM »

Love it! Another S.E. Found.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2018, 10:44:39 AM »

Ratty 500's a deam in motion. Nice.
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2018, 12:05:24 PM »

Pretty cool!

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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2018, 08:05:58 PM »

how awesome is that photo of the three together? VERY

 hopefully you guys can get him to join here.
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2018, 09:04:30 PM »

He was curious if I knew what cam was in the Bee-Liever package, so thanks guys for posting that info  2thumbs  I'll print out and mail it off to him as he is "not really a computer guy".

Here are a couple shots of the Holley and Eddy. The intake is painted engine color but is taped off to leave the aluminum showing through just on the top of the runners. I wish I had taken a photo of the goofy looking header collector set up that connects the Bee-liever Hooker headers to the stock exhaust.


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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2018, 06:02:08 AM »

Very nice..... You know, those C500 owners are super guys.........  icon_smile_big
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2018, 09:53:06 AM »

Just curious.  How is he driving the car without a coil wire on it? 
Nice to see that in addition to the white car being out, that my old C500 (F8 auto) is still turning a tire.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2018, 12:49:53 PM »

    Guessing by the VIN that car must have been towards the end of the 500'S production run ??
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2018, 05:40:59 PM »

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Just curious.  How is he driving the car without a coil wire on it? 
Nice to see that in addition to the white car being out, that my old C500 (F8 auto) is still turning a tire.

I knew someone would notice that.... He left the car in front of the shop for the morning before our arrival and that was his theft deterrent system  icon_smile_big

Yup ol' 232008 is a regular driver when the sun is out.

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Guessing by the VIN that car must have been towards the end of the 500'S production run ??

Unfortunately the fender tag is AWOL. VIN would suggest perhaps Nov 22, so pretty deep but not at the end.
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2018, 04:13:03 AM »

Great find and thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2018, 08:01:33 AM »

Awesome!!
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2018, 06:42:33 PM »

What a great color on a 500 (I mean 69 Charger actually).  My favorite color for sure.

So the saddle (tan) interior.   Being out of the south.  The tan in Chargers feels not that common, especially on a W1 car.  Is white with tan more common in the west or NW do you think?  Or just fewer numbers produced? 

Regardless sure like it.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2018, 06:15:41 AM »

Just curious.  How is he driving the car without a coil wire on it? 
Nice to see that in addition to the white car being out, that my old C500 (F8 auto) is still turning a tire.
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Back in the early 1970's I had a 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury. I was on a bowling team and of course we usually stopped after the game and had a beer or two.  The subject of cars came up one evening and we were all boasting about how our car was "the best."  I bragged on my Mopar (they were Ford/GM guys) and they all poo pooed all Chrysler products.  I am not a fast drinker so I was the last one to leave the bar that evening, so when I got out into the parking lot I was surprised to see two of the guys just kinda hanging around and looking like they were up to something. I waved at them, hopped in my Plymouth fired the engine up and drove off. The next day I stopped at the restaurant that one of my bowling buddies owned. When he saw me pull up he came running out into the parking lot and asked me how is it that I drove off the evening before, because he had pulled the coil wire out of the distributor cap!  I popped the hood open and sure enough the wire was not in the hole but was instead beside it, so I fired the engine back up and the spark would come out of the coil wire jump straight up curve over and go down into the distributor.  He never again said Mopars were inferior!
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2018, 09:27:36 AM »

To me, it looks like the primer 500 has vinyl  top molding on it? did that exsist? John
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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2018, 01:20:54 PM »

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To me, it looks like the primer 500 has vinyl  top molding on it? did that exsist? John

John,

The general belief is that all of the known Charger 500s with vinyl tops (just a handful known) were dealer ad-ons. This one is 5HUNERT's car and I believe he has some info indicating that the car was on the lot new with the vinyl top and sold that way. The clips and trim are not Mopar parts, but rather typical aftermarket stuff used back in the day when vinyl tops were popular add-ons (well.... maybe not "popular", but nonetheless more popular than ever since)  lol

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2018, 07:03:18 PM »

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To me, it looks like the primer 500 has vinyl  top molding on it? did that exsist? John

John,

The general belief is that all of the known Charger 500s with vinyl tops (just a handful known) were dealer ad-ons. This one is 5HUNERT's car and I believe he has some info indicating that the car was on the lot new with the vinyl top and sold that way. The clips and trim are not Mopar parts, but rather typical aftermarket stuff used back in the day when vinyl tops were popular add-ons (well.... maybe not "popular", but nonetheless more popular than ever since)  lol



 iagree Rallye Mike pretty much summed up what's known about it's vinyl top. Still trying to chase down owners previous to 1977.  At that time the top was complely thrashed and half of Creative Industry's window plug bondo came off with it when it was removed.
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2018, 10:41:26 PM »

Those cars are awesome! You guys are cool for sharing, thanks!

Just curious.  How is he driving the car without a coil wire on it? 
Nice to see that in addition to the white car being out, that my old C500 (F8 auto) is still turning a tire.
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...and asked me how is it that I drove off the evening before, because he had pulled the coil wire out of the distributor cap!  I popped the hood open and sure enough the wire was not in the hole but was instead beside it, so I fired the engine back up and the spark would come out of the coil wire jump straight up curve over and go down into the distributor.  He never again said Mopars were inferior!

I drove to work once with the coil wire unplugged.  Took me a mile to figure out why it wasn't running normal  rotz  lol
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2018, 09:14:38 AM »

What a car! And after being a die hard Mopar guy for over 30 years I have never heard of the Bee-liever package. I am still learning something new, thanks to you guys who are sharing your knowledge!!
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2018, 07:58:35 AM »

All three 500s had cool option packages.
-White: SE package & Be-liever package
-Black & Red:  Power Windows and A/C
-Orange: Vinyl top, 4:10 Dana, AM/FM, dual mirrors
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2018, 11:32:49 AM »

OOPS, slap sold my CH4B/Holley carb off my 69 500 engine, didn't know it was a dealer option...

White Chargers don't hold up to rust very well, unlike F8 green does... scratchchin scratchchin scratchchin
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2018, 11:52:35 AM »

very interesting.  Thanks for sharing.  cheers
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