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Original Superbird Bumper Jack or Jacks?

Started by Mopar John, September 15, 2018, 01:46:39 PM

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Mopar John

Quote from: Wingnut426 on September 18, 2018, 11:56:28 AM
My jack post has a hole in the side about 1 1/2 from the top. The pic from Nick's garage doesn't have that hole. WINGNUT
Here is the picture I got from Pete showing a hole drilled into the end of the mast.
On the jacks that I have here the hole is drilled on the same side as the lever for up and down on the mechanism.
So if it's laying on the non lever side you don't see the hole.
Thanks pete for sharing!
MJ

moparstuart

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maxwellwedge


Mopar John

Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 19, 2018, 09:36:05 AM
I'll get a pic of mine and post as well.
Jim,
Your PM inbox is full.
When you take the pictures of your Superbird jack could you get a nice one of each side of the mechanism.
I'd like to see the date code, "UP" and "DOWN" and all the other details stamped into it.
Thanks! John

Mopar John

Here are two pictures of my "T" mast bumper jack.
The first is the non lever side and you don't see the hole that's drilled.
The second picture with it flipped and you see the hole.
So in some of previous pictures like the one off Nick's site there could be a hole drilled in the mast.
Thanks! MJ

maxwellwedge

Quote from: Mopar John on September 19, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 19, 2018, 09:36:05 AM
I'll get a pic of mine and post as well.
Jim,
Your PM inbox is full.
When you take the pictures of your Superbird jack could you get a nice one of each side of the mechanism.
I'd like to see the date code, "UP" and "DOWN" and all the other details stamped into it.
Thanks! John

Sure, no problem. I'll do that over the weekend John

I did find these pics ...for now....

Luis9995

This is what was in mine. Long jack hook with U71 stamped under. Jack has a 0M stamp on the rivet. Different base and it's not a T style. Mine might not be original to it? Not sure.


Pics won't upload. if someone can upload them for me I'd appreciate it.

62 Max

Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 20, 2018, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: Mopar John on September 19, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 19, 2018, 09:36:05 AM
I'll get a pic of mine and post as well.
Jim,
Your PM inbox is full.
When you take the pictures of your Superbird jack could you get a nice one of each side of the mechanism.
I'd like to see the date code, "UP" and "DOWN" and all the other details stamped into it.
Thanks! John

Sure, no problem. I'll do that over the weekend John

I did find these pics ...for now....

John,I see one thing that may be incorrect or maybe mine is wrong but it came from the original owner. :scratchchin:

Mopar John

Quote from: Luis9995 on September 20, 2018, 05:37:39 PM
This is what was in mine. Long jack hook with U71 stamped under. Jack has a 0M stamp on the rivet. Different base and it’s not a T style. Mine might not be original to it? Not sure.


Pics won’t upload. if someone can upload them for me I’d appreciate it.
Luis9995,
I sent you a pm on your pictures.
MJ

Mopar John

Quote from: 62 Max on September 20, 2018, 06:36:40 PM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 20, 2018, 10:47:42 AM
Quote from: Mopar John on September 19, 2018, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 19, 2018, 09:36:05 AM
I'll get a pic of mine and post as well.
Jim,
Your PM inbox is full.
When you take the pictures of your Superbird jack could you get a nice one of each side of the mechanism.
I'd like to see the date code, "UP" and "DOWN" and all the other details stamped into it.
Thanks! John

Sure, no problem. I'll do that over the weekend John

I did find these pics ...for now....

John,I see one thing that may be incorrect or maybe mine is wrong but it came from the original owner. :scratchchin:
The wing nut VS the nut on the scissors jack hold down plate?
Mine has the wing nut.
Anyone else on this one?
Thanks! MJ

Wingnut426

A wing nut is correct. Some people put a regular nut on tight so no one can steal their jacks at a show. And yes, it has happened.  :Twocents: WINGNUT
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6bblgt

is the length of the post confirmed & consistent?

Mopar John

Quote from: Luis9995 on September 20, 2018, 05:37:39 PM
This is what was in mine. Long jack hook with U71 stamped under. Jack has a 0M stamp on the rivet. Different base and it’s not a T style. Mine might not be original to it? Not sure.


Pics won’t upload. if someone can upload them for me I’d appreciate it.
Luis9995,
Here are the pictures of your jack you sent me.
Your date code of 0 M on the rivet works out to be December 1970 which is a year after your Superbird was built.
So I think this jack was a replacement sometime later.
MJ

Luis9995

Thanks mopar John. I think I have a 70 roadrunner one out back and the correct base for it.I know I don't have the hook. I'll probably swap them out so it has the correct jack

Mopar John

Quote from: 6bblgt on September 21, 2018, 12:03:49 AM
is the length of the post confirmed & consistent?
Dan,
We are not consistent on the jack yet let alone the length!
From the ones that I think are right it should be 36 5/8" end to end.
MJ

maxwellwedge

Sorry John - I meant to take pics and measurements this past weekend. I will do it this week for sure.

Mopar John

Quote from: maxwellwedge on September 24, 2018, 08:08:50 AM
Sorry John - I meant to take pics and measurements this past weekend. I will do it this week for sure.
Thanks Jim!
In the meantime a member has sent me pictures of what he thinks is the proper storage
positions of the scissors jack, jack handle and hold down plate with wing nut.
MJ

Mopar John

                                                                  SUPERBIRD JACK BASE?
Other than the hook with the part number 2931 103 stamped into it I think the base will be the next item we can agree on?
In my first picture I show my 4 "T" or "Y" mast bases and I think they are identical except for the conditions and colors.
The one in my second picture on the left is a Chevrolet jack base!
The two in the middle shown in my third picture are Mopar jack bases!
Last is my favorite on the right shown in my last picture.
It is a Ford jack base that I bought NOS for $27.99! WOW!
The Mopar junk jack bases are all the way up to $99.00!!
If you look close they all have the same slots and holes along with a A-B stamped into them.
The big hole stamped into the right side is for other makes that use a wheel stud hole in the rim for the hold down stud.
So with the base used on all these differant applications they are EASY to find!
We still need original owners/Superbirds jack pictures.
Thanks! MJ

maxwellwedge

Hi John.
Ok - finally was able to take pics.
The jack length is 34-1/4" long.
The date is 9 E.....May, '69
Note the hole in the shaft - probably to hang the shaft for painting.
I have included some other pics for general layout.

maxwellwedge

More...

Mopar John

Quote from: maxwellwedge on October 01, 2018, 09:46:35 AM
Hi John.
Ok - finally was able to take pics.
The jack length is 34-1/4" long.
The date is 9 E.....May, '69
Note the hole in the shaft - probably to hang the shaft for painting.
I have included some other pics for general layout.

Jim,
Thanks for all the pictures of your Superbird jack!
Your pictures help confirm the following:
1) The Superbird uses a "T" or "Y" type mast.
2) The Superbird uses a 2931 103 small font jack hook with vendor number 10961
3) The Superbird uses the A-B base with the extra hole on the right side for other applications


Your pictures also bring up issues for discussion:
1) The length of the Superbird jack mast has been reported as 36 5/8" and now 34 1/4"
2) There are at least 3 styles of mechanisms in play in the summer/fall 1969!

This is why I started this post to begin with!
My first picture shows my stack of "T" or "Y" post jacks I have gotten.
They range in length from 34 1/4" to 36 5/8".
My second picture shows this differance in length and they all have the hole drilled in them near the end.
My third picture shows the 34 1/4" jack mechanism and the 36 5/8" jack mechanism.
Both Jims 9 E and my 9 J ( gray one on left ) have the shorter oval depressions and have masts 34 1/4" long.
The picture of the jack from Nicks Garage 9 L and my 9 L ( black one on right ) have the longer oval depressions and have masts 36 5/8" long.
So what I am wondering is at some point was there a revision in the jack from the manufacturer?
My last picture shows yet another "T" or "Y" type mast with a mechanism that has NO oval depression dated 9 K?
So we need more owners of original Superbirds to check the jack parts to hopefully clear this up or not?
Thanks! MJ

billssuperbird

What is the total measurement of the scissor jack handle open and closed for the wing cars :shruggy:

Mopar John

Quote from: billssuperbird on October 09, 2018, 05:52:17 AM
What is the total measurement of the scissor jack handle open and closed for the wing cars :shruggy:
Bill,
The Superbird jack handle is 31" overall folded up.
The handle when opened up is 54 1/2".
MJ

Mopar John

I have had a long time Superbird owner contact me about his bumper jack.
It is a "T" or "Y" mast as I call it that is about 34 3/4" long by running a tape under the spare.
The date code of the jack is a 9 J or September 1969.
So from the two early date coded jacks I'm seeing a shorter 34 1/4 - 34 3/4 " length.
We need more data and jacks to be measured so when your out working on your Superbirds
take a minute and help us out.
Thanks! MJ

62 Max

John,my jack is original to the car,T style,mast is exactly 33 1/2" with small hole on the end,no date code,just A stamped below handle insert. Hook is  2931 103,vendor 10961,base stamped A-B.