69 Charger R/T SE R6 V1W CRX V8W V21 & M51 Sunroof XS29L9B366061

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Dodge-Charger-R-T-SE/173840291485?hash=item2879b0569d:g:h7kAAOSwNdFcjpwy&vxp=mtr

hmmm  I see its got a vinyl top  code    thought all 69s destined to have Sunroof , had no vinyl top installed at the factory  so no  V1*code on fender tag , it was down to the sunroof guys to put one on , to hide their handy work , I await to be corrected on any of this  

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[kent]

Nice car for sure. Is that a 489 diff?

[Mytur Binsdirti]

Very nice car, but why is there water in the trunk?

[6bblgt]

  & it didn't have a sunroof

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/foundBlackFlag60.shtml

[kent]

Wow! Good find! These Chargers must be a hot commodity.  It says numbers matching???  How far could they go?  Or is the Hamtramck info wrong? That being said is this car legal to sell or buy???

Yeah seen that too. What's up with the water?

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Nice car for sure. Is that a 489 diff?

A36 package  had  3.55 gears  & 8 -3/4 axle

see info on Barrys awesome site   


http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1969/69_Charger0019.jpg


http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/

& it didn't have a sunroof

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/foundBlackFlag60.shtml

good find    maybe that explains the vinyl top code on the fender tag then  ....

[70 sublime]

Fender tag says CRX for the seats but it looks like it has the fabric inserts
I thought C5X meant black with fabric inserts ??

[ht4spd307]

 

[Mytur Binsdirti]

& it didn't have a sunroof

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/foundBlackFlag60.shtml

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5GwULPU90

[hemi68charger]

Fender tag says CRX for the seats but it looks like it has the fabric insets
I thought C5X meant black with fabric inserts ??

It does... I have a '69 Charger 500 with C5X and it has its original seats, cloth/vinyl...

T

[kent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5GwULPU90

[70 sublime]

Fender tag says CRX for the seats but it looks like it has the fabric insets
I thought C5X meant black with fabric inserts ??

It does... I have a '69 Charger 500 with C5X and it has its original seats, cloth/vinyl...

T

In the pictures a few posts up
The picture of the red fender tag
Second row up from the bottom and third group from the left looks like it shows CRX
Am I looking in the right spot ?

[69bronzeT5]

Fender tag says CRX for the seats but it looks like it has the fabric insets
I thought C5X meant black with fabric inserts ??

It does... I have a '69 Charger 500 with C5X and it has its original seats, cloth/vinyl...

T

The seats in the above car don't look like the cloth/vinyl seats. They look like all vinyl/leather seats; just bad pictures which would lead the CRX code to be correct.

[70 sublime]

OK that makes more sense after looking at picture again

[Alaskan_TA]

& it didn't have a sunroof

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/foundBlackFlag60.shtml

And yet, some people have told me I am wasting my time.......

The fender tag is a fake & the original XS29L9B366061 is dead & gone.


Maybe one of the foolish members here that defends VIN swapping will step up to the plate & buy this steaming pile of felony?  

[Dano 1]

Just trying to wrap my head around this deal for my own, and maybe other's, clarification.

The VIN tag for XS29L9B366061 only states the car is a Charger with a 440 and a given sequence number. If you purchased ONLY the primary VIN tag how would you know it was anything special? This car is an R/T SE, 440, sunroof car which you would only be able to determine from the fender tag or build sheet so why would you start with the primary VIN tag for XS29L9B366061? You would have to already have the car, match the VIN tag to the body, get a repop fender tag then track down the numbers matching engine/trans. Unless that VIN was tied to the rare fender tag/build sheet at some point in its life and someone knew that XS29L9B366061 was such a race combination why would it make any sense to VIN swap/body swap/clone this car based on the VIN alone?

I don't know the circumstances around the 2008 VIN auction but IF it was stated what car/option package this VIN went to then it could make sense to body swap but otherwise you're just guessing. What am I missing?

[Alaskan_TA]

VIN tag was from a junked car + The fender tag is a fake = The guy that swapped the VIN should have spent his money more wisely.  

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

& it didn't have a sunroof

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/foundBlackFlag60.shtml

And yet, some people have told me I am wasting my time.......

The fender tag is a fake & the original XS29L9B366061 is dead & gone.


Maybe one of the foolish members here that defends VIN swapping will step up to the plate & buy this steaming pile of felony?   

Yup...this pic was from the Auction on 7/31/08

[Alaskan_TA]

Glad to see I am not the only one that takes good notes Chris. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Glad to see I am not the only one that takes good notes Chris. 

Lol  yeah I used to...I saved all my stuff.  tag is way out of line as well..   Nice car "looking" car though...Im a sucker for nice R6

[hemi-hampton]

Just trying to wrap my head around this deal for my own, and maybe other's, clarification.

The VIN tag for XS29L9B366061 only states the car is a Charger with a 440 and a given sequence number. If you purchased ONLY the primary VIN tag how would you know it was anything special? This car is an R/T SE, 440, sunroof car which you would only be able to determine from the fender tag or build sheet so why would you start with the primary VIN tag for XS29L9B366061? You would have to already have the car, match the VIN tag to the body, get a repop fender tag then track down the numbers matching engine/trans. Unless that VIN was tied to the rare fender tag/build sheet at some point in its life and someone knew that XS29L9B366061 was such a race combination why would it make any sense to VIN swap/body swap/clone this car based on the VIN alone?

I don't know the circumstances around the 2008 VIN auction but IF it was stated what car/option package this VIN went to then it could make sense to body swap but otherwise you're just guessing. What am I missing?

What you talking about tracking down original #'s matching engine & trans, after he's gone this far to fake you don't track those down, you just stamp your own #'s onto them. LEON.

[hemi-hampton]

HAS ANYBODY TOLD SELLER HE'S SELLING A FAKE?