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XX29L9B356532 - poor Disco is homeless again, Mecum Indy 2019

Started by held1823, April 28, 2019, 01:49:03 PM

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held1823

must have been a last minute add-on to the sale, as they give absolutely zero info about the car
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

held1823

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Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

chargervert

I saw a TV show recently and that car was in a shop in the backround. The shop was a Chevy shop called NICKEY that builds engines.

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

held1823

Quote from: nascarxx29 on April 28, 2019, 08:14:20 PM
Though it s vin was 356532

it is, i fixed the error in the title and my replies to this. you might edit yours too, to eliminate any confusion
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Aero426

Hopefully the next owner leaves it alone like the last couple have.    It's a show stopper. 

maxwellwedge

It is a great, totally solid 16,000 mile car. I redid the engine, trans, brakes, rad etc. I traded Stefano, the owner of Nickey this car for another. I guess I had it a fairly long time - time flies. All I did was wet sand and buff the custom paint job put on in the early 70's and got rid of the red shag carpet and put the original seats and console back in. It also had headers and T/A style side exhaust. I put all original stuff back in. It is an A32 car as well.....4.10 Dana. Love those Spyder wheels - I kept those on. We put it through a wind tunnel a few years back to compare against a 69 Charger and a new Charger.

chargervert

I knew that was the car I saw at Nickey on that show on Motor Trend TV.

rob-dirt


gtx6970

I would LOVE to have that one in my garage,
but sadly the bank account says otherwise

cudavic

Any guesses on what it might bring?
If I were to guess I would think no more than $150K.
I would imagine most bidders will be turned off on it in its current state.
Just my 2 cents.

odcics2

I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

held1823

Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053


alfaitalia

Quote from: maxwellwedge on April 30, 2019, 12:21:58 PM
It is a great, totally solid 16,000 mile car. I redid the engine, trans, brakes, rad etc. I traded Stefano, the owner of Nickey this car for another. I guess I had it a fairly long time - time flies. All I did was wet sand and buff the custom paint job put on in the early 70's and got rid of the red shag carpet and put the original seats and console back in. It also had headers and T/A style side exhaust. I put all original stuff back in. It is an A32 car as well.....4.10 Dana. Love those Spyder wheels - I kept those on. We put it through a wind tunnel a few years back to compare against a 69 Charger and a new Charger.


You mean this I guess....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwgiiemZ_I
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

alfaitalia

Quote from: odcics2 on May 03, 2019, 03:00:49 PM
Maybe 225k.

One of a kind does turn some guys ON !!! :yesnod:

:coolgleamA:


Maybe.....but those guys are fewer and further between compared to those that will pay BIG MONEY for a stock version.
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you !!

odcics2

Quote from: alfaitalia on May 19, 2019, 06:59:51 AM
Quote from: odcics2 on May 03, 2019, 03:00:49 PM
Maybe 225k.

One of a kind does turn some guys ON !!! :yesnod:

:coolgleamA:


Maybe.....but those guys are fewer and further between compared to those that will pay BIG MONEY for a stock version.

agreed.
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

taxspeaker

Just like the "no-sale" Bird made to look like a Nascar racecar that stopped at $70,000. The buyers for these cars don't want to spend money for the nostalgia of someone else. If they have a pedigree that's one thing, but the day 2 look without a pedigree, or the fake racecar look without a pedigree has minimal value to a collector. No problem with the nostalgia here but realistically the value of the cars in the resale and auction market is almost totally based on the pedigree or the restoration.

Aero426

Both of those cars seemed to have been valued on the block with the cost of a "proper restoration"  to boring stock figured in. 

Perhaps the biggest loser of the auction is the guy who bought the Tor-Red Superbird V0A171586 that was burned to a crisp in 2008.   Disclosed as a salvage title, someone paid up $176k.    It would seem they did not do something as simple as a Google search on the VIN.   


Aero426

Quote from: taxspeaker on May 19, 2019, 03:39:03 PM
Just like the "no-sale" Bird made to look like a Nascar racecar that stopped at $70,000. The buyers for these cars don't want to spend money for the nostalgia of someone else. If they have a pedigree that's one thing, but the day 2 look without a pedigree, or the fake racecar look without a pedigree has minimal value to a collector. No problem with the nostalgia here but realistically the value of the cars in the resale and auction market is almost totally based on the pedigree or the restoration.

And even with a tremendous pedigree, the Juliano RTS show cars all went for reasonable money compared to some production line Mopars that brought big money.   It  can be a thin market for cars that are not viewed as mainstream.       

6bblgt

is this all the "same" Superbird?

held1823

Quote from: 6bblgt on May 20, 2019, 01:24:12 AM
is this all the "same" Superbird?

yes.  someone might feel a bit queasy about their investment once they see what their newly acquired salvage titled vehicle once looked like
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

superbirdtom

I see the superbird with all the decals and the blue rims didnt meet reserve at Mecum. i think went up to 79k  its surprising as some basket cases go for that. anyone know if a parking lot deal happened??  is the guy a member here??  thanks

wyliemn71

I would leave Disco just as it sits other than a wheel change to my liking and then enjoy it.....great looking car!!

Birdflu

Quote from: superbirdtom on May 20, 2019, 01:44:00 PM
I see the superbird with all the decals and the blue rims didnt meet reserve at Mecum. i think went up to 79k  its surprising as some basket cases go for that. anyone know if a parking lot deal happened??  is the guy a member here??  thanks

Car was bid to $70K. I saw some interest in the staging lot after it went across the block. Car is trapped in a weird spot. It's cool the way it is but doesn't have any historical significance. It will be a taunting restoration to bring it back to day 1 glory. All the wheel well openings were trimmed and extensively rolled. It's going to need the same metal work as a rusty car. Not going to lie...I'd park it in my garage and enjoy it the way it is for $70-75K, but it doesn't appear the owner will let it go for that.

maxwellwedge

Quote from: alfaitalia on May 19, 2019, 06:58:28 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on April 30, 2019, 12:21:58 PM
It is a great, totally solid 16,000 mile car. I redid the engine, trans, brakes, rad etc. I traded Stefano, the owner of Nickey this car for another. I guess I had it a fairly long time - time flies. All I did was wet sand and buff the custom paint job put on in the early 70's and got rid of the red shag carpet and put the original seats and console back in. It also had headers and T/A style side exhaust. I put all original stuff back in. It is an A32 car as well.....4.10 Dana. Love those Spyder wheels - I kept those on. We put it through a wind tunnel a few years back to compare against a 69 Charger and a new Charger.


You mean this I guess....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkwgiiemZ_I

Yes - thanks for finding that.

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701