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Triple Black 440 69 charger R/T four speed original 53k miles

Started by tan top, July 07, 2019, 01:11:59 AM

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hemi68charger

Quote from: cbrestorations on July 07, 2019, 07:31:40 AM
hopefully call this car mine on Monday, been on it for a week now. I offered 35k

Go for it....... If it makes you happy and you have the skills to do most of the work yourself, it should be a very fulfilling endeavor..........

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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chargervert

Quote from: cbrestorations on July 08, 2019, 12:34:30 AM
Quote from: bigdsul on July 07, 2019, 09:50:59 PM
My buddy Tony has a better 3x black 69 charger up in discovery bay. Rolling body car without  motor and transmission for less than that turd. It's above my price range but its a solid body car in need of motor trans and interior with paint.

I'm sure it's a nice car...i didn't think someone willing to pay up for a car they've always wanted was a bad thing...if anything it raised the values of your cars as some of said. For me...fixing the metal wasn't a big deal. If I blew all customers off I could have all metal work done in 2 weeks with stripping, blasting, epoxy, metal work and back rolling again. I'll be sure and not post any restoration updates of this turd on this site. I see it's not worthy

Even for you there's more than two weeks work there. When you finish blasting that car,you will be surprised at how little Charger is left after the dust stops flying! That car is crispy on the inner structure too.

cbrestorations

Quote from: chargervert on July 08, 2019, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: cbrestorations on July 08, 2019, 12:34:30 AM
Quote from: bigdsul on July 07, 2019, 09:50:59 PM
My buddy Tony has a better 3x black 69 charger up in discovery bay. Rolling body car without  motor and transmission for less than that turd. It's above my price range but its a solid body car in need of motor trans and interior with paint.

I'm sure it's a nice car...i didn't think someone willing to pay up for a car they've always wanted was a bad thing...if anything it raised the values of your cars as some of said. For me...fixing the metal wasn't a big deal. If I blew all customers off I could have all metal work done in 2 weeks with stripping, blasting, epoxy, metal work and back rolling again. I'll be sure and not post any restoration updates of this turd on this site. I see it's not worthy

Even for you there's more than two weeks work there. When you finish blasting that car,you will be surprised at how little Charger is left after the dust stops flying! That car is crispy on the inner structure too.

You could be right...but that's ok, when it's ripped down to the carcass not too much more trouble to replace whatever it may need. I won't get to this car for years anyway. Gonna be stored in the desert with some of the others. I like my ratty hot rod chargers to play and thrash around but I do have a few rare ones I wanna restore correct when I get the facility's to do so.

Wasco

I think it is absolutely awesome if you can get your hands on your dream car!  At this point in time, the fact is these cars are crazy expensive in any condition, and one with a pedigree like that one even more so.  If anyone can bring that car back, it would be you and although 90% of the car might end up being from Taiwan, it will still be stunning and other cars don't have to be sacrificed (if useable original steel was available, which it isn't).  But didn't I see somewhere it didn't have a fender tag?  I pretend I'm not a 'numbers' guy, but no tag would take away a little for me.  At least, until that beauty was back on the road!  Good for you and although I'm sad there won't be a documented restoration for some time, it's in good hands.

chargervert

CB,you are the right guy to save that car. Do you know if it's yours yet?

XS29LA47V21

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on July 07, 2019, 08:37:48 AM
Mmmmmm !!!! 3x9 !!!! Needs a lot of $$$$$$/time though !

That what I am talkin' about... we like 3x9 RTs (SEs)


Quote from: cbrestorations on July 07, 2019, 11:42:13 AM
Quote from: chargervert on July 07, 2019, 11:00:21 AM
I would sell you my California 70 Charger R / T V code car for the same money, it's a lot less work!

Look...I know 35k is a lot for the car, but I wanted it and that's what I was willing to pay. Always wanted a black 4 speed r/t and how often do they pop up??? At the end of the day it's what I wanted and am ok with what I paid. I paid up on the black 4 speed 68 r/t I have aswell.

Values or more specifically value to me, I get you perspective on the 35k number.  It is consistent with IMO colors and options to me could be easy 5 to 20k swing to other colors/options.  It is all about what you like.

It is interesting a bullet 68 RT to me is still not what 69s values seem to be.  I like that other 68 builder being discussed here.  Rusty, but looks like good start.

VegasCharger

Quote from: Wasco on July 08, 2019, 12:06:15 PM
.....(if useable original steel was available, which it isn't).....

Not available?? Says who?? Plenty of southwest 1966-70 B Body 4 door cars to be had. Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Albuquerque and all in between.

However some people tend to say to me at the swap meets "I'm just going to go ahead and use new AMD metal".

Okay get back at me after you're having trouble fitting your new AMD frame rail when you could've bought my original, rust free, dry Arizona sheet metal.

:cheers:

orange383

I managed to some original parts for my R/T and I'm in the Uk.

CB please start a restoration thread when you get to it!

Wasco

Quote from: VegasCharger on July 08, 2019, 10:54:55 PM
Quote from: Wasco on July 08, 2019, 12:06:15 PM
.....(if useable original steel was available, which it isn't).....

Not available?? Says who?? Plenty of southwest 1966-70 B Body 4 door cars to be had. Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Albuquerque and all in between.

However some people tend to say to me at the swap meets "I'm just going to go ahead and use new AMD metal".

Okay get back at me after you're having trouble fitting your new AMD frame rail when you could've bought my original, rust free, dry Arizona sheet metal.

:cheers:

If you find a 2nd Gen Charger with a solid useable quarter panel, or any panel, you'll need to fight the "save it at all costs" crowd.  Sure, you can find some clean frame parts from a four door, but not most exterior sheet metal, was what I meant.
:cheers:

bigdsul

Quote from: cbrestorations on July 08, 2019, 12:34:30 AM
Quote from: bigdsul on July 07, 2019, 09:50:59 PM
My buddy Tony has a better 3x black 69 charger up in discovery bay. Rolling body car without  motor and transmission for less than that turd. It's above my price range but its a solid body car in need of motor trans and interior with paint.

I'm sure it's a nice car...i didn't think someone willing to pay up for a car they've always wanted was a bad thing...if anything it raised the values of your cars as some of said. For me...fixing the metal wasn't a big deal. If I blew all customers off I could have all metal work done in 2 weeks with stripping, blasting, epoxy, metal work and back rolling again. I'll be sure and not post any restoration updates of this turd on this site. I see it's not worthy

Lmao talk about taking things personal. Lighten up Francis jeez.

If you have the time, money, and resources then by all means get the car and restore it to its former glory. Most of us don't have the time, money, resources, skills it takes to do bodywork like what the ebay car needs. And sure there are way worse cars out there then this one but for the money this car took in plus all the work to go into the car is beyond most people's reach

cbrestorations

I can now call that black 4 speed car mine, I didn't really pay 35k for it, I traded a clean 68 383 2bbl roller and 14kcash for it. I was only in the 383 car 7k so I'm all reality I'm in the black car out of pocket 21k. I think I did pretty good on that.

cdr

Quote from: cbrestorations on July 10, 2019, 11:53:28 AM
I can now call that black 4 speed car mine, I didn't really pay 35k for it, I traded a clean 68 383 2bbl roller and 14kcash for it. I was only in the 383 car 7k so I'm all reality I'm in the black car out of pocket 21k. I think I did pretty good on that.

VERY cool !!!!!
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tan top

Quote from: cbrestorations on July 10, 2019, 11:53:28 AM
I can now call that black 4 speed car mine, I didn't really pay 35k for it, I traded a clean 68 383 2bbl roller and 14kcash for it. I was only in the 383 car 7k so I'm all reality I'm in the black car out of pocket 21k. I think I did pretty good on that.

congratulations ! great stuff , looking forward to reading / seeing more about the car as & when  :cheers:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Wasco

Quote from: cbrestorations on July 10, 2019, 11:53:28 AM
I traded a clean 68 383 2bbl roller and 14kcash for it.

Just out of curiosity, any pictures of the '68 roller?

hemi-hampton

I'm a little confused, aint you the guy that always preferred making clones & switching Vins & not a #'s guy or #'s matching guy. Why not buy a solid rustfree las vegas desert 69 318 white (or any other color) Charger minus motor for $15k. Saves a lot of time & money on Body work & just paint it black, throw in a 440 from a 73 station wagon or C body from Junk yard, switch it over to a 4 speed, slap on some R/T Emblems & you got the car you always wanted. Who cars if it aint #'s matching. Right. LEON.

cbrestorations

Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 10, 2019, 10:38:21 PM
I'm a little confused, aint you the guy that always preferred making clones & switching Vins & not a #'s guy or #'s matching guy. Why not buy a solid rustfree las vegas desert 69 318 white (or any other color) Charger minus motor for $15k. Saves a lot of time & money on Body work & just paint it black, throw in a 440 from a 73 station wagon or C body from Junk yard, switch it over to a 4 speed, slap on some R/T Emblems & you got the car you always wanted. Who cars if it aint #'s matching. Right. LEON.
M

Find where I said I prefer switching vins...I have said it's a common practice that is done regularly and at many body shops around the world. I remove Vin's and body numbers all the time...restoring dashes, replacing core supports and replacing rusty rear clips. Removing vins ain't a big deal. I think it's funny when members on here get their panties in a twist about vins or even getting a repop one because the original is missing. Many times fixing a car there was no rear clip or core support when the car went to blasting. I'm not a huge numbers guy, but the opportunity came up on this one to be in it good where why even make a clone when I could have the real deal. That's kind of a no brainer to me

Challenger340

As long as you are happy that's all that counts CB  :2thumbs:

IMO, pretty crusty car.... just me, but I'd be thinking rebody for sure. 
You going to store it next to the other Black '69 R/T you bought out in the desert ? the one with the blue interior I think ?
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Ghoste


INTMD8

Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 10, 2019, 10:38:21 PM
Why not buy a solid rustfree las vegas desert 69 318 white (or any other color) Charger minus motor for $15k.

Didn't know you could buy a rust free 69 roller for 15k
69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

Birdflu

Quote from: INTMD8 on July 11, 2019, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 10, 2019, 10:38:21 PM
Why not buy a solid rustfree las vegas desert 69 318 white (or any other color) Charger minus motor for $15k.

Didn't know you could buy a rust free 69 roller for 15k

Sign me up for one please!  :yesnod:

cbrestorations

Quote from: INTMD8 on July 11, 2019, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on July 10, 2019, 10:38:21 PM
Why not buy a solid rustfree las vegas desert 69 318 white (or any other color) Charger minus motor for $15k.

Didn't know you could buy a rust free 69 roller for 15k

Because those are at every corner drug store...

F8-4life



cdr



Hey Chris, I want to apologize to you for my bad comments to you about VIN #'s & rebuilding these old cars, with your recent post I have a NEW understanding of the situation of saving these old cars & applaud you.
Charlie
LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/  
                                                                                           
68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver
Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr

Kern Dog

Quote from: cdr on July 14, 2019, 06:45:41 PM


Hey Chris, I want to apologize to you for my bad comments to you about VIN #'s & rebuilding these old cars, with your recent post I have a NEW understanding of the situation of saving these old cars & applaud you.
Charlie

What did I miss? What recent post?