Awesome Resto or BUYER BEWARE? 69 Charger R/T GL Clone XS29L9G115162

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Wow this one made an impressive comeback!  Looks brand new.....rebody??    You Decide!

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/dodge/charger/2335214.html?refer=musweekly&utm_source=musweekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-10-31



This is what she looked like in 2011 from an auction on eBay....    XS29L9G115162

[Ghoste]

Christine Lee?

[Alaskan_TA]

I added the VIN to the thread title, hopefully any potential buyers know to Google the VIN to see if anything comes up.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

I added the VIN to the thread title, hopefully any potential buyers know to Google the VIN to see if anything comes up.

Good deal....I modified the original  I would hope for 86k a potential buyer would do their homework!

[green69rt]

I usually don't pick at these "cars for sale" but this one is so obvious.  Add says 4 speed but it sure looks like an auto floor shift to me.

[Mytur Binsdirti]

86 grand for that POS?

[birdsandbees]

And only 50 bucks for the two rivets... 

[chargerperson]

Strange that they would take the RT VIN and then make a General Lee from it.  Any old VIN would seem to do the trick for a General Lee.   Not saying this is a rebody or not, just a waste of an RT car especially if that much work was involved as an XP would be seemingly just as valuable, whatever this car may be worth.

[JB400]

Maybe send Hemmings a news flash?

[JR]

I give the guy props for bringing another charger back from the dead, but I have to question why do all that just to make another General clone? Any old charger would have worked for that.

[hemi-hampton]

  Looks like Perfume on a Pig 318 car that somebody slapped a RT Vin # too. LEON.

Hans Special

[VegasCharger]

I added the VIN to the thread title, hopefully any potential buyers know to Google the VIN to see if anything comes up.

I didn't realize that you could do that? Are you an administrator on this site? Hence the stars below your your name?

Just asking to better know this forum community.

Thanks 

[Mike DC]

I give the guy props for bringing another charger back from the dead, but I have to question why do all that just to make another General clone? Any old charger would have worked for that.

Do you really think that's the original unibody under that R/T VIN?  Come on.  That's gotta be a re-body.  



Yeah, there are some guys in the hobby who would actually fix that trashed original unibody.  But they are not the ones who would slap it together as a crummy overpriced GL clone when they were done.

This is not an $86,000 car:  

[mel t]

Nice door panels. Are those from Year One? LOL.

[stripedelete]

Nice door panels. Are those from Year One?

Not sure.  However, the upper pad appears to be from "Wrong Year".

[69bronzeT5]

I emailed the dealership and said, "Hello, what metal work has been all done to the car?". They just replied....


"The current owner has owned the vehicle for 10+ years and aside from adding the grille guard and roll cage, the only metal work that has been done was some custom welding on the radiator assembly and a custom fabricated front core support to allow for better component clearance. "

[RallyeMike]

Oh, boy. This one will generate a future "I got screwed" thread". Someone will eventually buy it for $50k and think they got a deal.

[birdsandbees]

LOL.. not even window felts...

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Nice door panels. Are those from Year One?

No, they are from Year Two. 

[XS29L9Bxxxxxx]

Based on the fact there is a pic w/ the VIN loose, not riveted to the dash frame, I'd say theres a LOT to be suspicious about. 

[JR]

I give the guy props for bringing another charger back from the dead, but I have to question why do all that just to make another General clone? Any old charger would have worked for that.

Do you really think that's the original unibody under that R/T VIN?  Come on.  That's gotta be a re-body.  



Yeah, there are some guys in the hobby who would actually fix that trashed original unibody.  But they are not the ones who would slap it together as a crummy overpriced GL clone when they were done.

You're right Mike. I momentarily forgot HLpag and rebodies were a thing. That's got to be what this is.

[RallyeMike]

Yeah, there are some guys in the hobby who would actually fix that trashed original unibody.  But they are not the ones who would slap it together as a crummy overpriced GL clone when they were done.

Well said.

[Ghoste]

Based on the fact there is a pic w/ the VIN loose, not riveted to the dash frame, I'd say theres a LOT to be suspicious about. 

And there it is!

[moparfan53]

I usually don't pick at these "cars for sale" but this one is so obvious.  Add says 4 speed but it sure looks like an auto floor shift to me.

Ad says "four-speed automatic". I assume they did one of the popular conversions, A518... Keisler... etc.  Or maybe it is a mistake in the listing and it is still a 3 speed auto.  

[tan top]

Yeah, there are some guys in the hobby who would actually fix that trashed original unibody.  But they are not the ones who would slap it together as a crummy overpriced GL clone when they were done.

Well said.

I give the guy props for bringing another charger back from the dead, but I have to question why do all that just to make another General clone? Any old charger would have worked for that.

Do you really think that's the original unibody under that R/T VIN?  Come on.  That's gotta be a re-body.  



Yeah, there are some guys in the hobby who would actually fix that trashed original unibody.  But they are not the ones who would slap it together as a crummy overpriced GL clone when they were done.

This is not an $86,000 car:  

Looks like Perfume on a Pig 318 car that somebody slapped a RT Vin # too. LEON.

Hans Special

all true  what other guys say    

 if &  big IF this was the original body that has been repaired , the crap panel alignment , body work , paint work that's been done, &   use of some parts etc , calls into question the quality of the welding / metal work .   i'm sure any body guy who would of taken on a re construction of a charger like that/ this , would not have done a shit amateur   job of all the other aspects of the work required when rebuilding a old car from the ground up ie a bare shell rebuild    or at least not asking good money for it, maybe the owner done it to please him self & had no intentions of selling but for one reason or another  its now for sell at a dealer who knows ...
i'm going with, its a poorly done rebody , for  maximum  profit ,  just hope some serious DOH fan does not get taken in buy this car , hope anyone looking to buy this checks in to this site first !

RUN from this car IMO


 

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[Kern Dog]

All I have to see is a black engine bay and I know the rest isn't going to be any better than a hack job.

[Mike DC]

  
Not necessarily true for a GL replica.  The engine bay was black on TV.  The Duke boys started with a black Charger in the fictional story.

[BrianShaughnessy]

Wow this one made an impressive comeback!  Looks brand new.....rebody??    You Decide!

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/dodge/charger/2335214.html?refer=musweekly&utm_source=musweekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-10-31



This is what she looked like in 2011 from an auction on eBay....    XS29L9G115162

Kinda halfazz GL / resto (?)     I wouldn't doubt it's a 318 car underneath it all.         Love the crappy spray can interior dye job.

It's overpriced at half that price 

[Kern Dog]

 
Not necessarily true for a GL replica.  The engine bay was black on TV.  The Duke boys started with a black Charger in the fictional story.

Still....
It seems like a cheap excuse to avoid painting the car right.

[Mike DC]

  
If you're a Dukes nut then an orange engine bay doesn't look right.  

Seven seasons of TV episodes.  Two reunion specials.  A big theater remake (with a 528 Hemi).  The engine bay was always black.  Never orange.    

Yeah, granted, the factory didn't do them that way.  But Mopar didn't build Chargers in a Corvette orange color with AR Vector wheels and a pushbar on the front.  The GL was never a stock car.  
   

[Fitz73Chrgr]

I added the VIN to the thread title, hopefully any potential buyers know to Google the VIN to see if anything comes up.

I googled it, this thread didn't come up unfortunately

[Kern Dog]

I gave the General Lee a pass because it was a TV character. TV show cars are not accurate representations of the real thing anyway.

[1969 R/T SE]

Talk about blast from the past. I always wondered what happened to it after my old man sold it.

[alfaitalia]

I emailed the dealership and said, "Hello, what metal work has been all done to the car?". They just replied....


"The current owner has owned the vehicle for 10+ years and aside from adding the grille guard and roll cage, the only metal work that has been done was some custom welding on the radiator assembly and a custom fabricated front core support to allow for better component clearance. "

I hope you emailed the link to this thread straight back to them!!!

[69bronzeT5]

I emailed the dealership and said, "Hello, what metal work has been all done to the car?". They just replied....


"The current owner has owned the vehicle for 10+ years and aside from adding the grille guard and roll cage, the only metal work that has been done was some custom welding on the radiator assembly and a custom fabricated front core support to allow for better component clearance. "

I hope you emailed the link to this thread straight back to them!!!

I emailed back, included the 2011 auction pictures and said,

"Hello Heather,

Thank you for the response. In your ad, you stated this car holds VIN # XS29L9G115162. You mentioned the current owner has owned the vehicle for 10+ years and no metal work has been done to the car. However, XS29L9G115162 was on eBay in 2011 in the below shape (see attached pictures). I'm just curious as to your thoughts on this?"


Awaiting their response... 

[Ghoste]

 

[69bronzeT5]

So, I've spoken to them more. It sounds like it's a consignment vehicle and they don't know much about it. They responded to my question with this.....


"The VIN for this vehicle is XS29L9C115162. When this vehicle was entered into our system there must have been an error making the C a G."



So I responded with....

"Do you have a picture of the VIN or fender tag (on the inner fender: driver side engine bay) by chance? I've never seen a '69 Charger with a C in that position on the VIN. That position is for the assembly plant. I've only ever seen G or B for the two different assembly plants. C would be a plant that they never built Chargers at. That being said, Dodge did some weird stuff so never say never."


They just replied and sent me a picture of the VIN tag.....

"Please see attached VIN plate. The VIN was entered correctly as XS29L9G115162. This is a consignment vehicle so I have reached out to the owner to clarify a few things based off the information sheet we received on intake. Please let me know if you have any further questions and I will get back to you with as much information as possible as soon as I get a response back.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

So, I've spoken to them more. It sounds like it's a consignment vehicle and they don't know much about it. They responded to my question with this.....


"The VIN for this vehicle is XS29L9C115162. When this vehicle was entered into our system there must have been an error making the C a G."



So I responded with....

"Do you have a picture of the VIN or fender tag (on the inner fender: driver side engine bay) by chance? I've never seen a '69 Charger with a C in that position on the VIN. That position is for the assembly plant. I've only ever seen G or B for the two different assembly plants. C would be a plant that they never built Chargers at. That being said, Dodge did some weird stuff so never say never."


They just replied and sent me a picture of the VIN tag.....

"Please see attached VIN plate. The VIN was entered correctly as XS29L9G115162. This is a consignment vehicle so I have reached out to the owner to clarify a few things based off the information sheet we received on intake. Please let me know if you have any further questions and I will get back to you with as much information as possible as soon as I get a response back.

Good deal Cody.   We'll see the integrity of this dealer now....not holding my breath....next question should be a pic of the radiator support stamping.....

Enlarged the pic to see it a bit clearer....pretty cool that it looks like the tag numbers were touched up a bit except the "5"

[Ghoste]

Maybe just worn from sitting in an envelope while waiting for a suitable donor?

[Aero426]

Apply SEM vinyl dye liberally.

[cbrestorations]

i Wonder if body numbers match?

[70 sublime]

i Wonder if body numbers match?

Match what ?
Each other or the VIN tag 

[cbrestorations]

Just curious if they left the old body numbers on the donor or if they swapped the r/t ones on it.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

i Wonder if body numbers match?

Yeah, thats the next question....love to see a pic of at least the radiator support stamping...

[Challenger340]

i Wonder if body numbers match?

Yeah, thats the next question....love to see a pic of at least the radiator support stamping...

Maybe even have a re-pop Fender Tag and B-Sheet as well ?

Won't be long now until the entire car can be faked properly ? You know.... even the Body Stampings ?
and then....
we can ALL have 3X Black '69 R/T SE 4 Spd Track Pack Cars, and they can ALL be documented originals right ?
Yippee !

[RallyeMike]

Apply SEM vinyl dye liberally.

The tan sprayed dash was found on the original filmed cars (every single one I could not affirm to).