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Can you drive a standard transmission ??

Started by 70 sublime, February 29, 2020, 09:30:45 AM

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Have you learned how to drive a standard transmission on the road ?

I am 50 years of age or over and know how to drive a standard transmission car on the road
75 (61.5%)
I am younger than 50 years of age  and know how to drive a standard transmission on the road
45 (36.9%)
I am 50 years of age or over and do not know how to drive a standard transmission
1 (0.8%)
I am less than 50 years of age and do not know how to drive a standard transmission
1 (0.8%)

Total Members Voted: 122

70 sublime

Just curious how many can drive a standard car
I have been gathering parts to swap my Charger over to a 4 speed got me to thinking this
When I got my driver permit I learned on the family farm truck which was an auto
Dad got me my first very own car from the local junk yard and it was a standard so it was sink or swim right from the very start   :icon_smile_big:

And when I say standard I do not mean lawn mowers or motor cycles or 4 wheelers or farm equipment

I tried a dirt bike once but it did not go well so ever since any thing I have driven has had at least 4 wheels   
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XH29N0G

Story from my kids was that one of their friend's brother's manual transmission car get car-jacked and then driven about a block and abandoned at the next intersection.

We own two older manual transmission cars.  The charger is one of them. I would have bought one if it had been available at the right price and if my daughter hadn't 'claimed' she wouldn't be able to drive it.  This argument annoyed me because she has driven my son's older manual transmission car when necessary.  So everyone except my daughter would say they could drive a manual transmission.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

tan top

I'm 48 ! learnt to drive with a manual transmission   :yesnod: , my daily driver for the last 11 years is standard transmission ,
thinking more about it out of all the daily drivers ive had since passing my test late 80s almost all my daily drivers have been a stick shift 
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lloyd3

Short answer.....yes. First real street experience (well...dirt road) was a 1966 Dodge truck 3 on the tree when I was 13-years old (11 in an automatic '59 Merc in a farm field). Taught my son on my car as his feet were too-big for his mothers 5-speed Volvo (and 440s are comparatively rather hard to stall).  Heck, with the 3.54 Dana, mine will start off in 3rd if you so-desire.

70sixpkrt

I learned to drive a stick at one of my first jobs. Used to wash tow trucks when I was 16. Boss told me to move the tow truck and I told him I don't know how to drive a stick. He said if I blow the clutch, just use the other tow truck to tow it.


440-6pk, 4-speed, Dana 60 with 3:54  
13.01 @107.93 (street tires spinning all the way down)

chargerperson

Learned to drive standard in a Ford 150 3 speed on the column.  Anything after that was quite easy.

67 Charger - converted from automatic to 6 Speed

triple_green

I learned to drive a 4-speed on my cousin's 1972 LS5 454 4-speed daytona yellow t-top Corvette. On the backroads of Centralia, WA the year was 1975
68 Charger 383 HP grandma car (the orignal 3X)

Kern Dog

I have had a few 4 speed vehicles. I converted a 76 Camaro, a 74 Duster and might convert my Charger to a manual transmission.

white

I learned to drive a stick in my 64 Impala super sport with 327 4 barrel when I was 16.

odcics2

Daily driver years ago was a 3 on the tree Dart.

198 with a 3:55 rear end !!  Fun times!  Spanked many Gremlins, Mavericks and Novas on the street!    :coolgleamA:
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Topher

Yep. Taught my wife and 2 sons how to drive the Charger years ago. Just in case we were out and Daddy got attacked by adult beverages.  :cheers:
Topher

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XH29N0G

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

kent

Learnt how to drive standard when I was 11. Our 70 D-100 three speed on the tree. Does that count. If not Fuller 18 speed should qualify me then. When I was a kid use to load potato trucks under the boom and run them to the road. After that about 20 years over the big street.
Kent

70 sublime

So 162 have read the thread and only 32 have voted and all 32 can drive a standard
Does that mean the 130 that did not vote can not drive a stick ??????

Well it looks good that Dodge people can drive by the votes so far  :2thumbs:
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nchrome

learned on a 54 chev 3 on the tree six popper what a hoot ran it in the ground too

green69rt

Quote from: nchrome on February 29, 2020, 09:36:28 PM
learned on a 54 chev 3 on the tree six popper what a hoot ran it in the ground too

Wow, pretty close to me.  53 Chevy column shift.  I learned in Kansas City Mo.  If anyone remembers it, KC is a series of hills, all up and down.  I learned early how to feather a clutch!

HANDM

Learned on a 80 something Chevy Luv with a worn out clutch before I even had my license
Perfected on a 70 something Datsun 620 pickup
The 73 Cuda I sold had a 440 and a PG-4
Sold my 99 Ranger manual when I got my new Ram... The ranger was the easiest to kill with too much clutch and I did it so regurlarly I felt like I was learning for the first time....lol

kab69440

I much prefer them, actually. Autos leave you disconnected from the pavement. No stick, no sale. Praise Jesus for the late model Challengers!
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JB400

I played in a few work trucks with a clutch, but the first time on the road was in a Neon headed to auction.  Told the guy I never drove one; he said I'd figure it out.  Drove plenty ever sense. :2thumbs:

INTMD8

69 Charger. 438ci Gen2 hemi. Flex fuel. Holley HP efi. 595rwhp 475rwtq

dual fours

It had flat front fenders, four wheel drive, a four cyc. and was painted red over olive drab paint. I would drive it down the dirt road to the local gas station to buy candy. It went slow. I may have been around ten years old. No cops on the back roads around the farm. I do not recall using a seat belt :o. Then I graduated to three on the tree and three and four on the floors. Lately these past years the knees hurt so bad. It's funny these days, that when I drive an auto. on the center console, I have the left hand on the steering wheel at 12 o'clock and the right hand on the auto. shifter knob. Maybe more then one time in an auto. and power brakes, I had to brake fast and hard, both feet went on the brake pedal at the same time, good thing I had the seat belt on that time. Old habits never die.
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duckmanreno


Learned to drive a 62 Willy's Wagon. It has a Muncie 4 speed and a 283 my dad converted. It was a pretty smooth shift. My Charger is a 4 speed, and my truck is a 6 speed.
I prefer them.
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INTMD8

In regard to knees, I've not experienced issues with that but would say that may not be an issue with hydraulic actuation and diaphragm pressure plate compared to mechanical actuation and borg and beck pressure plate.
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gtx6970

Quote from: chargerperson on February 29, 2020, 01:13:40 PM
Learned to drive standard in a Ford 150 3 speed on the column.  Anything after that was quite easy.

67 Charger - converted from automatic to 6 Speed

I learned to drive in my moms  1965 Buick lesabre. then moved up to my dads 1973 Ford F150 , six cyl with 3spd column shift. My wife can drive a stick, my daughters can not . and neither have any desire to learn

Seems most if not all  of my 'non car people' friends can not, yet ALL the car people can.

Im looking for a classic car and if its a 4 spd, I keep looking as Im not interested

XS29L9Bxxxxxx

Funny to see, so far, all who cannot drive a stick shift trans are not responding. LMAO  :rofl:

Todd Wilson

I drive a Toyota Corolla 5 speed every day to work.  Also have an old non sync 4 speed in my big old 47 Dodge truck.  How many can drive double clutch?!  :smilielol:


Todd

chargerperson

Quote from: XS29L9Bxxxxxx on March 01, 2020, 09:23:47 AM
Funny to see, so far, all who cannot drive a stick shift trans are not responding. LMAO  :rofl:

Suspect there are few here that cannot drive a standard

BLK 68 R/T

I learned how to drive stick in an 83 Volkswagen rabbit "pickup."
Then around the time I was 17 I got a farming job and drove wheat trucks, Dodge d700 and d800 mostly with a 2 speed axle. Also drove tow truck after that on long haul, but mostly local towing. Lots of middle of the night state patrol calls and AAA calls. All the tow trucks were manual transmission. My brother has a lot of big trucks so he has showed me how to drive truck as well, 10, 13 and 18 speeds, although I do need a lot more practice with them and don't have a CDL. My daily driver for quite a few years was a beater 68 GTX with a 4 speed.

Daytona R/T SE

Yes, I can drive a manual transmission, also called a stick shift.

I don't know why some of you call it a "standard" ?  :shruggy:

I guess maybe, back in the dark ages, the cheap cars came with a three speed manual shifter mounted on the steering column "standard" and anything else was an extra cost option?  :shruggy:

ACUDANUT

Someone up North is bored to death posting a thread like this.  :Twocents:

Kern Dog

Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 01, 2020, 11:03:59 AM
Yes, I can drive a manual transmission, also called a stick shift.

I don't know why some of you call it a "standard" ?  :shruggy:

I guess maybe, back in the dark ages, the cheap cars came with a three speed manual shifter mounted on the steering column "standard" and anything else was an extra cost option?  :shruggy:
You are right. The term "standard" did refer to the base model equipment, the 3 speed manual was most often the standard transmission, the 4 speed or automatic were extra cost options.

BLK 68 R/T


Daytona R/T SE

Quote from: Kern Dog on March 01, 2020, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: Daytona R/T SE on March 01, 2020, 11:03:59 AM
Yes, I can drive a manual transmission, also called a stick shift.

I don't know why some of you call it a "standard" ?  :shruggy:

I guess maybe, back in the dark ages, the cheap cars came with a three speed manual shifter mounted on the steering column "standard" and anything else was an extra cost option?  :shruggy:
You are right. The term "standard" did refer to the base model equipment, the 3 speed manual was most often the standard transmission, the 4 speed or automatic were extra cost options.

:cheers:

John_Kunkel

Quote from: Kern Dog on March 01, 2020, 12:39:40 PM
You are right. The term "standard" did refer to the base model equipment, the 3 speed manual was most often the standard transmission, the 4 speed or automatic were extra cost options.

Good subject for debate; "standard" could also mean the standard of the time wherein automatics were a new phenomenon and manual transmissions were the norm. "Stick shift" covers the whole gamut from 3 to 18-speeds.

BTW, my first stick shift car was a '55 Buick Century ex-CHP car...circa 1960.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

darbgnik

First vehicle I ever drove was in the mid 90's as a teenager: my Dad's Ford F100 with a 3 on the tree. A pretty rare setup by this time.
Of course I didn't actually have lessons, nor his permission for that matter.........

Without being able to operate a manual, I would not be able to drive my current, or past Vipers, as they only come in manual.
Brad

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:Twocents:

Manuals are fun in rural settings.  They aren't much fun in dense urban traffic.

XH29N0G

So how many of you have chirped the brakes on an automatic with a big wide brake pedal because you were reaching for the clutch.  I was a slow learner did this a few times as a teenager with my Pontiac. All my parents cars were manual and that is what I was taught on.  I remember my dad having me drive to the barn on the windy one lane road with stops starts and big hills.  After I got there he said to drive the mile back in reverse gear. not only a clutch and hills, but a sore neck.   
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

stripedelete

Almost rolled a new Dodge Mirada because my foot went for the clutch at a high speed.  It was a real Starky and Hutch experience.

I had a 72 Chevy C/10 with a badly worn 3-on-the-tree.   It was the ultimate theft deterrent.  Sometimes for me too.

Last fall I rolled up on a dead Silverado at an intersection.   The guy jumped out and asked asked for a little push.  It felt like the old days.

Did anyone else make sure they were parked down hill when when their battery was getting tired?

Supercharged Riot

First time driving was kn an automatic.  But when I actually bought my own first car it was manual. So I taught myself how to drive stick

69bronzeT5

I can drive standard very well. My first insured vehicle was a 1990 5.0 Mustang I bought at the age of 18. Taught myself how to drive standard on it. Currently own 3 standard transmission vehicles. For the record since the poll asked about age, I'm 27.  :cheers:
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1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Q5XX29

Many of my "toys" are manual transmissions, so I make sure that all of my kids are proficient with them. Here's a clip of my 14 year old son driving my 1967 Lamborghini Miura. It was my first time in the passenger seat, which as you know, offers a much different enjoyment experience (and you can see, in the video, I enjoyed it)!

https://youtu.be/FEVtLY4TvBU

Same 14 year old son, at age 12, driving our "project car" S-code 1967 mustang 390 GT. You can tell that he doesn't pay for the tires.

https://youtu.be/0VBM01CrcPI
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Ghoste

It's what I learned on and mostly what I've driven.

Homerr

We have an '02 Accord with an automatic and an '94 F150 with manual transmission.  I really prefer to drive the F150.

F8-4life

I made a point to have all my cars being factory 4 speeds. But for my daily driver I like an automatic.
I did not learn to drive stick until rather late, but in an old car it just adds to the fun of it.

CDN72SE

I'll be 54 this year, just learned to drive stick, two years ago. My daily driver, 2003 Cooper S 6-Speed.

1972 Charger SE

timmycharger

I had to learn if I wanted to drive. My parents gave me my first car, a 1981 Chevy Chevette with a 4 speed. Sink or swim for me.. 

I converted my 68 to a 4 speed, nothing like rowing the gears in a muscle car!!

HANDM

Taught my son (now 20) to drive when he was sixteen on my ranger. He has a 00 pontiac sunfire coupe and just recently acquired a 91 prelude SI with 4 wheel steering both manual

He's part of the manual gearbox preservation society  :lol: :lol:

Bronzedodge

It was a 79 Ford van with a 4 speed, my Dad just got a company car and I had just got my license.  I used that till I found a $200.- Super Six Aspen, but it was an auto.   

That 300 six was a good running motor too.
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oldgold69

since I was twelve  I learned how to start out on a hill with out putting it in the hog pen  took a lot of tries   It took a 8 year farm kid to show me how to do it   my kid was about ten when I taught to drive a twin stick truck  5 by 4 speed

RallyeMike

What % of new cars and trucks in North America are manual anymore? It's got to be single digits at this point. Even a low-power car is fun to drive if it is at least a manual transmission.
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67440chrg

Yes I have owned as many standards as autos. I took my drivers test in a 6 cyl chevy truck with a truck 4 speed. Its odd that I have had as many over the years but dont have one now. I can remember at 15 driving my grandmother to church in their vega. That little 6 cyl 4 speed car was fun on dirt roads when I was 14 & 15. We lived in the sticks and were aloud to drive pretty young.

73chgrSE

I've driven more trucks with a manual transmission than cars though. Living in the Atlanta area a stick would be a hassle in this traffic.

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myk

Learned on a Geo Metro in '98.  I could probably still do it but it's been years since I've touched a manual...
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Kern Dog

Quote from: myk on March 05, 2020, 07:03:29 PM
I could probably still do it but it's been years since I've touched a man...

What ? ? ?   :rofl:

myk

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Nacho-RT74

My first manual transmission experience was at the age of 14 or so with the Test Drive PC game on an EPSON APEX LOL.

But being serious, I learnt by myself using the video game experience. I stolen couple of times my Dad's 1988 Jeep Wrangler Limited ( long chassis ) and went pretty much well. He was out of the country for couple of months and my Mom never noticed I took the Jeep. Then after that went to a driving school just for practice with their car, not really to learn.

Some years later got my Charger ( Auto ), and being driving my Dad's W116 Mercedes ( Auto ), while at work I was driving a T1 VW panel. That was pretty much my only relation with manual transmission on last 10 to 12 years.

Being now in Spain, I'm driving a 1997 Range Rover P38 ( with a SLOOOOOOOWWW 2.5 diesel BMW engine , 5 speeds ).

Well, I'm driving is just saying! It has being more time at the mech shop than on the streets.


OH, forgott also drove couple of times my Dad's 1980 Manual Range Rover before get my Charger operative but this was under permission. Then he changed it for the Mercedes.

Just to say, my Dad never got all these cars at the same time

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XH29N0G

Come to think of it, It must have been a manual transmission I was driving in the early 1980's when I hit my dad's charger in the driveway.  :nana:  Wonder if I popped the clutch.  Only thing I remember was panic when I hit the car and then my dad saying "you might want to back up" when I asked min what I should do next. 


Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

68RT440

When I learned how to drive, it was in my dad's Ranger which was a manual. This was in 1999 and all of my friends cars were automatics and none of them could drive stick. I was lucky because I didn't have to worry about any of my friends wanting to borrow the truck once I bought it from my dad. I have a 03 Mustang now that's a street/strip car with a manual transmission. I know automatics are faster in the quarter mile but there's just something about powershifting at 7K that lets you know that you're in control of the car!  :drive:
1968 Charger R/T, matching numbers 440/727, black with green top and interior, currently getting restored by me

71charger_fan

I learned to drive on manuals in a '66 Beetle and a '66 Chevy truck. When my kids were ready to learn to drive, I made them learn on a manual in my '83 Shelby Charger. I think they hated me for it at the time, but, in the long run, I think they're glad I did that. Over the years I've had a lot of manual trans cars ('68 Barracuda, '83 Shelby Charger, '82 Camaro, 2000 Neon, 2003 Neon, 2004 Neon, '10 Challenger SRT8, '15 Challenger Scat Pack, '17 Corvette, '10 Wrangler, '13 Wrangler, '94 Cherokee, '95 Wrangler, '55 Plymouth and probably a couple more that I'm forgetting).

I took the '55 Plymouth to the local Quick Lane to have the differential and transmission oil changed as I didn't feel like crawling under there. They gave the job to a very young tech. I watched him get in the car, start it, then just stare at the shifter for about 30 seconds. Then he shut it off and walked back in and asked one of the older guys how to drive it. The "three on the tree" baffled him.

c00nhunterjoe

Im 36 and can drive and race stick shift cars. I have been told my 4 speed shifts on the track sound like automatics.

lloyd3

Sticks require you to become part of the machine. A mixed blessing these days, of course, as most of the traffic conditions around any modern metroplex are misery itself for stick cars.  In something like a sportscar or a traditional American musclecar, however,  they are much-preferred by the "purists" because the real fun of driving is embodied in the immersion of the man (or woman) into the machine. In musclecars the pleasure is doubly-fun as you can be a total horses-ass with a clutch, coupled with just about any big block V-8.  Impressive to both behold and employ, especially at closing time at roadside speakeasies back in the days before predatory policing.  In all likelihood however, a few nimrods still practice such late-night festivities to this very-day... at the more-rural establishments scattered around the flyover parts of this country. It usually starts with the classic pronouncement of "here, hold my beer...".

John_Kunkel

My dad was born in 1914 and drove only stick shifts until '53 when he bought a '50 Olds with a Hydramatic and stayed with automatics after that. In '58 we flew far away to visit my grandparents and he borrowed grampa's '53 Chevy with a stick. At one point he was getting ready to back up and pulled the shift lever all the way down where Reverse was in the Hydro; as he eased the clutch pedal out I warned him he was in 1st and not Reverse.

He cussed and said "I can't believe I did that, never thought I'd forget how to drive a stick". Never made that mistake myself (yet).
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

myk

Ive been driving the girlfriend's 2019 Elantra with the auto-stick and it's made me realize that although I love my Charger, I really wish I had held out just a few more weeks for this red with black vinyl top 68 Charger R/T with the 4 speed that came up for sale in the auto trader magazine, just weeks after I bought my car back in 1994.  If you are able and truly enjoy driving,  manuals are the only way to go...
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Mike DC

 
I wouldn't wanna be daily-driving a stick in modern L.A. traffic.  That would get old real fast. 
 

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Back N Black

I bought a corvette last year for a quick flip (Stick) I like banging the gears and can't seem to let it go.

myk

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on March 07, 2020, 04:17:04 PM
 
I wouldn't wanna be daily-driving a stick in modern L.A. traffic.  That would get old real fast. 
 

Eh.  Good point...
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HANDM

Yesterday I drove my sons 91 Prelude si with 4 wheel steering 5 speed, fun car!  Like driving a go cart!

6pkrtse

My daily is a 2012 Challenger R/T Classic with a 6 spd manual.
1963 Belvedere 413 Max Wedge
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 sixpack.
1970 Challenger R/T Drag Radial 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Road Runner 383 4 BBL
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 4 BBL
1996 Dodge Ram 2500 V-10 488 cu in.
2004 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD Dually 6x6
2012 Challenger R/T Classic

RiverRaider

Column or floor shift, synchro or non synchro, straight rod pull, oval track sliders and couplers.
Almost a third of all the miles I have ever driven were in a vehicle with a manual transmission.
I prefer manual transmissions, they just last longer and I can get a lot of mileage out of clutches.
My first Charger was a Stock Car.

billssuperbird

My friends 1969 Pontiac Firebird 400 4 speed  :drive:

69wannabe

Have driven many different manual transmission vehicles from older honda accords and preludes to old ford trucks with the three on the tree and the old granny four speed transmissions. I had two 69 F100's that were both 3 speed on the column trucks and my dad's old 85 F350 which I still have has the granny 4 speed in it which usually you just use 2nd through 4th in normal driving. 1st gear is really really low which most everyone know's which is why I call it the old granny gear four speed. My charger is a factory 4 speed car which was pretty neat I thought when I bought it and I recently purchased a newer dodge challenger and I actually test drove a 6 speed which was nice out on the open highway but in stop and go traffic I got tired of gear shifting really quick and it was a little out of my price range but i'm not 20 years old anymore and actually wound up with a low mileage 2010 challenger R/T with the automatic in it.  I don't mind a straight shift but the older I get I really just like dropping into drive and driving comfortably from there. I still enjoy the 4 speed in my old charger tho, the old 4 speed really makes driving it the fun factor but I only drive it when the weather is good so lately it's not getting driven much since it rains here every day now it seem's.

mr. hemi

I learned to drive in a 1955 Dodge military Power Wagon. 4 spd un-synchronized trans. The only time I have owned an automatic since then was when a manual was not available in the vehicle. Like the Jeep Liberty CRD's that are our current daily drivers.
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