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OLD TIMER CAR TRICKS

Started by Bad B-rad, June 25, 2020, 05:45:39 PM

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Bad B-rad

OK so reading the Marvel mystery oil thread,it gave me this idea.
What old school automotive car tips or tricks have you learned from an old timer?
This may be a great, fun way to not only learn some "NEW" old school tricks, but to pass on some cool knowledge that was passed on to you! :cheers:


This is JUST ONE my grand pop, POP Kelly, taught me.

When dealing with a rusted bolt, that is fighting you as you attempt to remove it, he would grab a stick of BEES WAX, heat up the bolt, or nut (application depending )and smear the bees wax on it. Then walk away.
The bee's wax would melt, become a liquid, and as a liquid it will flow down the threads, into the rusted area.
once it cools, it acts as a lubricant between the two threaded parts, and he would just back it out no issues, maybe sometime he would have to work it forward some, then back, and repeat.

Ok I get it,  most people don't have bee's wax laying around, but they do have WD-40, or some canned spray.  I am sure this was a technique popular well before wd 40 or PB blaster, or zep 45.

Point is for us to share cool tips.(some tips may not be as easy as the modern options)
Again my POP was born in 1919, so he was around wrenching on stuff before a lot of us were even thought of.


Any one have anything to share?
:popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
 



 

XH29N0G

My dad's father (1911) took me out for a drive before I turned 16 to show me how not to drive.  Lots of wheelspin, erratic swerving,  scared me, but was fun.  He wasn't super mechanically inclined, but was someone I really enjoyed knowing.  My mom's father said to accelerate around corners and stick to the line.  When he was moving through the mountains of Greece in his alfa, it was fast and a little scary. No mechanical stuff from him either.  That came from my dad and the places I worked. 
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

mr. hemi

I worked in a service station back in the mid-seventies, when a station actually did service. There was this very senior citizen dude, retired Canadian army came in all the time with his '63 or '64 Chevy for an oil change. He insisted that one quart of oil be substituted with ATF. Said he had done that from new to keep it clean. I saw that engine with the valve covers off when we were changing a leaking gasket. It looked like it had never been run before. It was spotless inside. So that old timer's trick appeared to work out.
You know you are vintage when someone says, "Back in the day", and you can dispute their facts.

BSB67

Quote from: mr. hemi on June 25, 2020, 08:33:10 PM
I worked in a service station back in the mid-seventies, when a station actually did service. There was this very senior citizen dude, retired Canadian army came in all the time with his '63 or '64 Chevy for an oil change. He insisted that one quart of oil be substituted with ATF. Said he had done that from new to keep it clean. I saw that engine with the valve covers off when we were changing a leaking gasket. It looked like it had never been run before. It was spotless inside. So that old timer's trick appeared to work out.

That was a common practice. 

500" NA, Eddy head, pump gas, exhaust manifold with 2 1/2 exhaust with tailpipes
4150 lbs with driver, 3.23 gear, stock converter
11.68 @ 120.2 mph

Bad B-rad

Pop Kelly also showed me a great trick on how to make a "TAP" to clean up stripped threads, with just a bolt.
I still use it today when a proper tap isn't around.
He would take a bolt that was the correct size and thread pitch, over to a bench grinder and remove the first few threads creating a slight taper on the end, then he cut a slit in the threads at about a 45 degree angle (length wise, ) while turning the bolt.  (so the slit wrapped around the bolt one revolution, think barber pole or candy cane stripe) 
Works most every time!!!

The strange thing is my POP's hands had the shakes BAD, from Parkinson disease, but as soon as he went to the bench grinder to put an edge on any blade, the shakes went away and he went straight as an arrow, solid as a rock. He could put a RAZOR sharp edge on anything 100% free hand, and I cant even do it with the correct "GUIDE" on my knife sharpener.


Aero426

Quote from: mr. hemi on June 25, 2020, 08:33:10 PM
I worked in a service station back in the mid-seventies, when a station actually did service. There was this very senior citizen dude, retired Canadian army came in all the time with his '63 or '64 Chevy for an oil change. He insisted that one quart of oil be substituted with ATF. Said he had done that from new to keep it clean. I saw that engine with the valve covers off when we were changing a leaking gasket. It looked like it had never been run before. It was spotless inside. So that old timer's trick appeared to work out.

Old school oils did not have the level of detergency that we have today.

c00nhunterjoe

Atf in diesel fuel was an old trick and still works good today for cleaning injectors. Used to fill the fuel filter with straight atf and run it through. Seafoam is another good one to use as a detergent in both oil and atf.

Then there is the brakefluid in the trans to swell hardened seals. Seen that one work 1st hand a few times. Temporary fix there for sure.

HANDM

I put a capful of brake fluid into a 79 camaro power steering pump once and sure enough it worked and stopped it from leaking.

Might just do it in the Charger PSP  :eek2:

Bad B-rad

Quote from: c00nhunterjoe on June 26, 2020, 09:54:07 AM
Atf in diesel fuel was an old trick and still works good today for cleaning injectors. Used to fill the fuel filter with straight atf and run it through. Seafoam is another good one to use as a detergent in both oil and atf.

Then there is the brakefluid in the trans to swell hardened seals. Seen that one work 1st hand a few times. Temporary fix there for sure.


YES SIR!!!
I also have used the ATF in the fuel filter trick!!!
Great minds think alike!!!
I will have to remember the brake fluid thing.

I have never done this, but heard about an old sleazy used car salesman trick, about putting saw dust in slipping automatic transmissions.
I guess it works to help slipping clutches, grab, and make the sale.

Bad B-rad

This is one I bet most of us have done, but I am sure it hasn't been nearly as common as it once was.
The old WD-40 on wet ignition wires.
I had a 74 Duster, with the leaning tower of power in 198CI!!!!!
If you drove it in down pour or hit a puddle just right, it would splash water on the distributer, and she run like shit.
Shut her down, spray with the WD-40 and good to go.
It is a wonder it didn't ignite, lol


 

HANDM

Water Displacement formula 40 For the win!

Bad B-rad

Quote from: HANDM on June 26, 2020, 06:08:14 PM
Water Displacement formula 40 For the win!



UPON further review, you didn't put your answer in the form of a question.

OH wait, the judges are gonna give it to you!!!!
:2thumbs:

Kern Dog

Yeah...If the 39th formula would have been a success, do you think that they would have used the name WD-39 ?

Bad B-rad

Well KD,
You know that the guy who invented it, worked for the government, because were else could you f%^K it up 39 times in a row, and still have a job to get it right on try # 40.

HANDM

Quote from: Bad B-rad on June 26, 2020, 07:12:40 PM
Well KD,
You know that the guy who invented it, worked for the government, because were else could you f%^K it up 39 times in a row, and still have a job to get it right on try # 40.

You've never heard the quote "the road to sucess is paved with failure"?

DownZero

Old sneaky trick that was used when selling an oil burner with bad rings. Pour a tablespoon of comet ar Ajax cleanser down the cylinders. Lasted long enough to complete the sale :)

Bad B-rad

Quote from: HANDM on June 27, 2020, 09:19:53 PM
Quote from: Bad B-rad on June 26, 2020, 07:12:40 PM
Well KD,
You know that the guy who invented it, worked for the government, because were else could you f%^K it up 39 times in a row, and still have a job to get it right on try # 40.

You've never heard the quote "the road to sucess is paved with failure"?




I can not argue with you, as you are 100% correct.
Most people, myself included, have learned a lot from failure. :2thumbs:   

That being said, a guy who has a can of turn polish as a profile pic, MUST know a joke when he sees it, even if it wasn't a very good one!!LOL




Now the question I have to ask myself is, what can I learned from, my joke failure? LOL




I never heard of the Ajax one, but I know a bunch of old timers swear by a product called SANI FLUSH to clean/flush out a dirty cooling system.

Bronzedodge

Quote from: DownZero on June 28, 2020, 12:26:56 PM
Old sneaky trick that was used when selling an oil burner with bad rings. Pour a tablespoon of comet ar Ajax cleanser down the cylinders. Lasted long enough to complete the sale :)

I knew of this used car gur up in the country.  He'd wash a car with Ajax then paint it.  Lasted long enough for a sale, then the new paint would fall off.   :eek2: :smilielol:
Mopar forever!

Back N Black

Using a screw driver as a listening device to diagnose noise in the engine. :Twocents:

Bad B-rad

Quote from: Back N Black on June 29, 2020, 09:17:25 AM
Using a screw driver as a listening device to diagnose noise in the engine. :Twocents:

That is a GREAT one!!!!
:2thumbs:

Funny, I totally forgot that one!

DownZero

I've done that many times.

timmycharger

Never did this one myself but did people adjust points on a distributor with a matchbook cover or was that one of those stories that existed along with a car with a 3/4 race cam and the try to grab the dollar off the dash BS..  :shruggy:

DownZero

Quote from: timmycharger on June 29, 2020, 03:00:18 PM
Never did this one myself but did people adjust points on a distributor with a matchbook cover or was that one of those stories that existed along with a car with a 3/4 race cam and the try to grab the dollar off the dash BS..  :shruggy:

It's real. Did it often back in the day. Good luck finding matchbooks now.

HANDM

Quote from: DownZero on June 29, 2020, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: timmycharger on June 29, 2020, 03:00:18 PM
Never did this one myself but did people adjust points on a distributor with a matchbook cover or was that one of those stories that existed along with a car with a 3/4 race cam and the try to grab the dollar off the dash BS..  :shruggy:

It's real. Did it often back in the day. Good luck finding matchbooks now.

And don't forget to "sand" the points first with the striker on the matchbook!

dual fours

Starting fluid to set/pop the beads on a tire. Then add the required air.
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

Bad B-rad

Quote from: dual fours on June 29, 2020, 08:08:49 PM
Starting fluid to set/pop the beads on a tire. Then add the required air.


Still used this on truck tires(not F-550 truck, big rig Peter Built)
I do it so much I didn't think of it as an old timer trick!!!


Last year I did this to my garden tractor tire, and trying to do it safely on the first try I didn't use enough starting fluid to seat the bead, but the dam tire caught fire,LOL, used air gun to blow it out, then got it 2nd try.

Bad B-rad

How about removing press fit bushings(think heavy equipment) by running FAT stringer beads all along top surface.
wait for it to cool, and falls right out.

The hot arc draws some of the parent material up, to mix with welding rod, and shrinks the bushing. Again after it cools down from welding on it.








Bad B-rad

I may be giving away to many trade secrets with this one. Installing press fit piston pins in to rods, with an oven and freezer.
stick rods in oven on 300. Then stick pins in freezer, works better with dry ice.
Wait 2hrs on pins, then once rods are up to temp, they fall right place!! No piston pin press required, you even have about 4-8 seconds to adjust placement before it will lock into place.

Make  science work for you!!!!

dual fours

Quote from: Bad B-rad on June 25, 2020, 05:45:39 PM
Ok I get it,  most people don't have bee's wax laying around, but they do have WD-40, or some canned spray.  I am sure this was a technique popular well before wd 40 or PB blaster, or zep 45.


Any one have anything to share?
:popcrn: :popcrn: :popcrn:
 



 
I have plenty of Bee's wax laying around , two five gallon Lard cans of the stuff. I also have Sheep tallow and Bear fat.
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

ACUDANUT

 If you have a V8, disconnect every other spark plug wire to double the mileage.  :D

dual fours

Quote from: ACUDANUT on July 03, 2020, 01:59:28 PM
If you have a V8, disconnect every other spark plug wire to double the mileage.  :D
Which way would be better, every other one back the same bank then up the other side or jump back and forth from side to side?
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

dual fours

Since most people do not use the whole length of a hack saw blade to cut, seem like the center get used the most, you should have one as a candidate.  Take that hack saw blade and about three inches from the forward end, the part usually not dull, take just the sides of the teeth down lightly with a grinder. Now you have ''V'' shaped pointy teeth and not the normal teeth on that end. Cleans ''dresses up'' crud  from threads on pipe or bolts real good. This ''tool" is not used with a saw handle, break the worn out blade in half and wrap the end with electrical tape, now you will not cut your fingers while using it.
As my dad would say, '' I pay just as much for the ends of that blade as the center, so use a full stroke." Followed by, " You don't put half of your Peck** in do you?" :slap:

He also said, well not really said it all the time, he'd point to the sign on the wall that read, "The man who loans tools is out." and, "There is a place for everything, for Christ's sake put it there."
1970 Dodge Charger SE, 383 Magnum, dual fours, Winter's shifter and racing transmission.

26 END
J25 L31 M21 M31 N85 R22
VX1 AO1 A31 A47 C16 C55
FK5 CRXA TX9 A15
E63 D32 XP29 NOG

greycharger

To loosen things with fewer failures, tighten first. Just enough to make it move.
Even if it doesn't move, putting that torque on it still seems to help

Back N Black

Quote from: dual fours on June 29, 2020, 08:08:49 PM
Starting fluid to set/pop the beads on a tire. Then add the required air.

Did that many times and works well.

b5blue

  Clean electrical connectors by mixing salt in vinegar and dunking till clean. (Use freshly mixed.) Flush by putting any sprayer top on a bottle of alcohol (It will screw right on.) and blasting dunked part while held in a cloth. When dry spray with T-9 or Caig Lab D-100. (Really blast/clean off the salted vinegar well to neutralize cleaning effect.)
  Now that you have a spray alcohol ready the next time mosquitoes start buzzing around trying to bite you can knock them out of the air with a mist of spray. (I've gotten 4 with one blast.) Follow up with a stomp or kill blast on the ground and go back to working on your car. If your hot and sweaty a light mist will cool ya off nicely also. 70% Alcohol is cheaper and most effective killing virus and bacteria, 90% is very effective for cleaning but use care on some plastic/painted surfaces. (It won't harm the plastic plugs for electrical connectors/bulkheads.

ACUDANUT

.Clean electrical connectors by mixing salt in vinegar and dunking till clean. (Use freshly mixed.) Flush by putting any sprayer top on a bottle of alcohol (It will screw right on.) and blasting dunked part while held in a cloth. When dry spray with T-9 or Caig Lab D-100. (Really blast/clean off the salted vinegar well to neutralize cleaning effect.
OKay  :shruggy: Flush by putting any sprayer top on a bottle of alcohol (It will screw right on.)  What ??????

XH29N0G

Or you could get 4 minutes of advice about cooking Christmas dinner using car tricks from the red green show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niegc7QcilM

Remember ....

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

b5blue

Quote from: ACUDANUT on July 20, 2020, 02:12:59 PM
.Clean electrical connectors by mixing salt in vinegar and dunking till clean. (Use freshly mixed.) Flush by putting any sprayer top on a bottle of alcohol (It will screw right on.) and blasting dunked part while held in a cloth. When dry spray with T-9 or Caig Lab D-100. (Really blast/clean off the salted vinegar well to neutralize cleaning effect.
OKay  :shruggy: Flush by putting any sprayer top on a bottle of alcohol (It will screw right on.)  What ??????
409, Windex, Fantastic, spray bottles from cleaners will screw right on the top of a bottle of alcohol.

ACUDANUT

What alcohol are you referring to ?

b5blue

Isopropyl, it dries quickly. You can use water but it tends to hangout in crimps and connectors delaying final coating.