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69 Charger 500 , on Nicks Garage

Started by tan top, July 11, 2020, 12:00:06 PM

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Fisher

The car is Y2 yellow Period. The lites in the shop make it look green at times. As for disc brakes this car didn't come with them so why add them. Eugene has upgraded the shoes, and will be using DOT 5 fluid. The car will stop just fine. HP has nothing to do with stopping distance. 60 mph is 60 mph regardless of hp . Yes a disc brake car will have a short stopping distance over a drum brake car, but who really cares.

timmycharger

Quote from: Fisher on January 31, 2022, 05:08:49 PM
The car is Y2 yellow Period. The lites in the shop make it look green at times. As for disc brakes this car didn't come with them so why add them. Eugene has upgraded the shoes, and will be using DOT 5 fluid. The car will stop just fine. HP has nothing to do with stopping distance. 60 mph is 60 mph regardless of hp . Yes a disc brake car will have a short stopping distance over a drum brake car, but who really cares.


Have you ever driven a car with drum brakes all around? Just curious.

Fisher

Yes i am 60 years old, i grew up with drum brake cars. I just sold my 71 Duster, was a 4 wheel drum brake car. If you know how to drive, drum brakes are not an issue. Just because these manufacturers who sell all this upgrade shit say drums are no good doesn't make it true.

hemi68charger

Quote from: Fisher on January 31, 2022, 05:08:49 PM
The car is Y2 yellow Period. The lites in the shop make it look green at times. As for disc brakes this car didn't come with them so why add them. Eugene has upgraded the shoes, and will be using DOT 5 fluid. The car will stop just fine. HP has nothing to do with stopping distance. 60 mph is 60 mph regardless of hp . Yes a disc brake car will have a short stopping distance over a drum brake car, but who really cares.

I had the standard HD drums brakes all the way around on my 1st C500 and they worked just fine.. They would lock the wheels up no problem.
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Fisher

Thats what i am saying Troy. All these car show's on TV who are all sponsored by parts places, are prostituting parts for those companies. Then people get it in their heads that they need that stuff and anything else is sub par. I grew up in a small town out in the country, lots of rich farm kids we were not them lol. Kevin Burns had a 68 Hemi Charger 4 wheel drums, he rolled the car one night, not sure where it went? Brian Neighbrandt had a 68 440 charger drum brakes, Nelson Matechuk had a 69 440 super bee drum brakes. Everything we had on the farm was drum brakes, i started driving when i was 12-13 years old. Been building cars and working on cars for the last 44 years. Unless you are going road course racing every weekend, save your money, leave the car Stock.

timmycharger

Quote from: Fisher on February 01, 2022, 10:10:06 AM
Yes i am 60 years old, i grew up with drum brake cars. I just sold my 71 Duster, was a 4 wheel drum brake car. If you know how to drive, drum brakes are not an issue. Just because these manufacturers who sell all this upgrade shit say drums are no good doesn't make it true.


Disk brakes considered "upgrade shit"? that's laughable, sorry.  

1969daytona

Quote from: timmycharger on February 01, 2022, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: Fisher on January 31, 2022, 05:08:49 PM
The car is Y2 yellow Period. The lites in the shop make it look green at times. As for disc brakes this car didn't come with them so why add them. Eugene has upgraded the shoes, and will be using DOT 5 fluid. The car will stop just fine. HP has nothing to do with stopping distance. 60 mph is 60 mph regardless of hp . Yes a disc brake car will have a short stopping distance over a drum brake car, but who really cares.


Have you ever driven a car with drum brakes all around? Just curious.

My 70 coronet has drums all around.(stock) will block the wheels with now worry. 100+ to 0 can be don at least 2 times without boiling.
and with no power it is much better than stock discĀ“s. (driver vise) but of course you will get it to boil if you drive it hard.
MoPar or NO car

timmycharger

Yea, I was just reading that Formula 1 will be incorporating drum brakes in their cars this year due to the performance gains over carbon fiber disk brake rotors.  I'll have to see if Brembo is making any drums that I can swap into my Charger.    :slap:

C'mon guys, I get the purist thing, I really do but in real world driving situations such as a panic stop on the highway you are going to tell me that drums perform better than disks? The brakes lock up easily with no problem and that is supposed to be a good thing?  Car shows sponsored by parts places? Didn't Chrysler add disk brakes from the factory on their cars? Who sponsored them? 

Are you going to tell me next that bias ply tubed tires are better than radials? This is great.  :popcrn:

aerolith

Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls,
IT TOLLS FOR THEE...

John Donne 1623

aerolith

Its all about originality over drivability I guess?

Some cars drive better than others and Cuda's are one car that does!
I have worked on a friends 70 sixpack Cuda one owner and low miles, it drove badly!

We completely overhauled the suspension and did a 'shade tree' alignment...

It drove real nice and we told the owner to get it digitally done for 'peace of mind'!
He said it was better than ever but he would get it done on the correct settings...

Yep after it was done it drove like CRAP again, oh well...

I've had several Chargers of all years and sizes, some of the R/T cars were terrible and dangerous at speed.

But when it came to driving and stopping, my 1970 383ci 4-speed Cuda was easily the BEST, by far (disc brakes) lol...
Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls,
IT TOLLS FOR THEE...

John Donne 1623

426HemiChick

Hi Folks,                 03 February 2022

Going to jump in here just for the heck of it. We have had four MOPAR cars, 68 Hemi RR, 69 440-6 SB, 69 Hemi Daytona (Now Bob's) and a 70 Hemi Cuda 4-Spd, the only one of the four with discs. The only two with Power Brakes are the Daytona and the Cuda.

Of the four, the Daytona was the car we drove the most. We had it up to 140 on I-75 North in the UP of Michigan in 1974. The drum brakes were massive and did just fine, as they did for the other two.

The Cuda was driven very little the three years we had it. We didn't much care for that car as we felt it was the sorriest car we ever had. Rode like a western movie buck-board and was very uncomfortable on trips of more than a few blocks. Noise was another factor, too much and too loud. Seats uncomfortable, too low to the ground causing bad visibility in traffic. In other words that car sucked big time. The only thing I found easy to do with it was a "Bootlegger's Turn," a 180 for those who don't know.

About a year after we sold it, it was rolled up in a ball sitting in a junkyard. Do we wish we still had it? YES, it would be worth a bundle.

The Daytona was a dream to drive and never had an issue with the brakes.

The RR and SB have so few miles on them and were hardly driven. They are wearing big fat drums, which will remain on the SB as we want it bone stock as we plan to sell it.

The RR will get disks on all fours, just for looks. She is going to be our local drive-in, car show, street racer queen. We are getting ready to order a crate Hemi for her and have her original engine rebuilt back to stock specs. Since we have two Hemi K members we plan to have two fully functional engines and transmissions for her; plug and play if you will.

In our opinion, Disc Brakes are nicer looking, if you have the wheels to show them off.

Quote from: timmycharger on February 01, 2022, 04:17:50 PM
Are you going to tell me next that bias ply tubed tires are better than radials? This is great.  :popcrn:

We could  tell you that; if you believe it, do so at your own peril.

That's our 2 cents worth, which is probably more than it's worth.

Best Always

426 Hemi Chicks
Veteran - US Navy  Ex-Smoker (05 Mar 69) 54 years, heading for 100, 46 to go. Still lots to learn, lots to make up for. Weren't no angel. Fugitive from Southlake TX's Kangaroo Court

Montreal Wing Car

So, going back to Eugene 's car....
A new video, with first start in the car in 47 years... they had the owner seeing it live remotely with a camera and microphone!
https://youtu.be/IpiYPncgqcU

Ben

aerolith

Eugene's Charger 500 runs, how cool is that!

47 years is a LONG time to wait, to hear her running again... :patriot: :no: :thumbs:

Well done Nick and all involved... :notworthy:
Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls,
IT TOLLS FOR THEE...

John Donne 1623

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.0.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

aerolith

Ticking headers, now that brings back some great memories lol... :slap: :smilielol: :RantExplode:

Watch out for trains... :patriot:
Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls,
IT TOLLS FOR THEE...

John Donne 1623

Fisher

Ticking headers are nothing new in the performance world. A nice thick Header gasket solves that problem. As for the 4 spd, why do that, the car is numbers correct with the automatic. Plus rowing a 4 spd gets old after awhile. Eugenes car is perfect, and the way he wanted it. Just got off the phone with him, he is excited to get his car.


tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.0.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Fisher

Eugene sent me this to build for him, so i took a shot at it. i am 60 years old and did the best i could to keep it as accurate as possible. I shipped it off in the mail to him today.















C500

"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."

tan top

 Road Test  C500 at Nicks  :yesnod: :coolgleamA: :2thumbs:

 :dance: :  :drool5:      wow !  love Y2    :yesnod:
good choice on black steel wheels :yesnod:  
yellow & black on a second generation  is a awesome color combination  :coolgleamA:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2MIDhLO5jE

wonder if Eugene is a member here or checks out whats happening here !  bet he has some awesome back in the day stories & memories  with this charger  :yesnod:
if you are reading this ! Eugene  what an awesome charger you have  & to be the original owner  !  
:2thumbs: :cheers:


Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.0.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

C500

It looks amazing! Those wheels and the redlines are beauties together.  :woohoo:
"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."

70 sublime

Not trying to pry or be a big snoop but does anyone in the know know how much Nick would have charged to do this restoration ?

Just curious after working on my 70 Charger and having to pay a few different people to do some stuff for me ( engine rebuild , bodywork )

Can pm me if that is best

Thanks

A fellow Canadian 
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

hemi-hampton

I hope it got no Rock Chips in the Paint doing the Burn Outs :scratchchin:

aerolith

A top resto, ten years ago was $100,000... :popcrn:

Maybe $150K?

If the Charger 500 prices go to where they should be, then a profit is in order methinks... :2thumbs:
Never send to know, for whom the bell tolls,
IT TOLLS FOR THEE...

John Donne 1623