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Author Topic: XX29L9B400565 A4 4-speed Daytona on EBAY restamped block & FAKE b'cast sheet  (Read 1897 times)
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2020, 10:19:46 PM »

the font is all wrong
there is stuff missing that should be there - including some of the codes on the fender tag & the date on the door sticker is WAY off   smilielol
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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2020, 06:09:09 AM »

A back in the day photo...

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« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2020, 07:20:10 AM »

A back in the day photo...

 Call that a day 2 picture ?   icon_smile_wink
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2020, 07:54:54 AM »

I wonder how much of the original car still remains.  I would love to own an A4 4-speed Daytona but as others have posted, better to have stated original motor is lost than to fake it.   
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2020, 08:27:56 AM »

A back in the day photo...

 Call that a day 2 picture ?   icon_smile_wink

Could be day 1 if someone got squirrelly coming out of the factory!  rofl rofl
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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2020, 08:28:26 AM »

the font is all wrong
there is stuff missing that should be there - including some of the codes on the fender tag & the date on the door sticker is WAY off   smilielol

Thanks for the info!
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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2020, 09:34:29 AM »

A back in the day photo...

 Call that a day 2 picture ?   icon_smile_wink

You can see some of the silver under the light blue, where the nose is bent.

Closer to day 2,500+    Twocents
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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2020, 12:03:33 PM »

the font is all wrong
there is stuff missing that should be there - including some of the codes on the fender tag & the date on the door sticker is WAY off   smilielol

the seller's own photos show the date differences

G15 on the fender tag, but not on the most likely earlier report


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« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2020, 12:30:59 PM »

I thought the tag looked off as well but didn't catch that the earlier decode was different

my above comment was in regard to the FAKE b'cast sheet  eek
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2020, 12:37:54 PM »

the font is all wrong
there is stuff missing that should be there - including some of the codes on the fender tag & the date on the door sticker is WAY off   smilielol

So all Daytona's have the vin door sticker like a 1970 model car has ?
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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2020, 12:40:00 PM »

the font is all wrong
there is stuff missing that should be there - including some of the codes on the fender tag & the date on the door sticker is WAY off   smilielol

So all Daytona's have the vin door sticker like a 1970 model car has ?

the vast majority, YES - "ALL" seems to always find an exception
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« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2020, 01:49:17 PM »

the font is all wrong
there is stuff missing that should be there - including some of the codes on the fender tag & the date on the door sticker is WAY off   smilielol

So all Daytona's have the vin door sticker like a 1970 model car has ?

the vast majority, YES - "ALL" seems to always find an exception

Thank you,,
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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2020, 08:08:53 PM »

I have a dumb question... I'm assuming Galen's report would have had a picture of the fender tag. (I'm assuming one was present, since he decoded it.) Why would someone ADD a code? Is it to show the tag is a repop? I guess I'm missing the logic.  shruggy
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« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2020, 08:27:11 PM »

I had to look it up

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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2020, 10:10:06 PM »

Galen would decode anything you'd pay him to decode (picture/hand written/anything) & not mention problems/issues
             an evaluation was another service & additional $$

other than the VIN tag & apparent "9B400565" stamped 4-speed - nothing above authentically describes/details the Daytona (except maybe the ~35 year old picture)
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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2020, 05:34:42 AM »

Yes, stupid me... That was only a fender tag decoding and not an eval/inspection report.  brickwall
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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2020, 09:05:26 PM »

Is it for sure that it is a restamped block?

anyone have a 1969 HAMTRAMCK stamped engine or transmission with the open top "4"?

Mine is on the lift right now, I will check.


Checked my Hamtramck Charger R/T. 9B308847 the "4" is closed at the top. I have owned this since 1980 and known of it since 1976. So fairly confident the stamps are original.


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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2020, 10:03:44 PM »

A back in the day photo...

I asked one of the aero gurus about this car:

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"A4 4-speed car w/black stripe.  Car was a real junk pile. Extremely rusty.  Was in Sioux Falls SD in the '70s"
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« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2020, 02:06:43 PM »


So all Daytona's have the vin door sticker like a 1970 model car has ?

the vast majority, YES - "ALL" seems to always find an exception


I've found just the opposite... most Daytonas did not have a door tag originally, based on observing the pattern of unrestored cars.  Many restorers / owners add repop tags to cars which didn't have them, thinking they were removed at some point.  From what I've seen, the presence or absence of the door tag is not tied to the VIN either.


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« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2020, 07:47:56 AM »

A back in the day photo...

I asked one of the aero gurus about this car:

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"A4 4-speed car w/black stripe.  Car was a real junk pile. Extremely rusty.  Was in Sioux Falls SD in the '70s"

Sioux Falls...  Jives with my buddy's remembrance of selling it to a "guy in the Dakotas" back in '76. 
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