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Started by Nacho-RT74, August 23, 2020, 07:47:13 AM

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Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 31, 2020, 04:05:09 AM
 

Who is in charge of 'THEY'?  

The corporate state is.  They have so much power over Washington it's pathetic.   The buck really stops there.  


Are the politicians exaggerating Covid data and keeping the economy stalled longer/worse than necessary?  Is that plausible?  

How did that conversation go between the politicians and the fossil fuel reps?  "Gentlemen, we realize nobody is driving cars so the lockdown is costing you billions of dollars.  But we have to ask you to keep losing more money next quarter.  We want to embarrass Trump and we are testing how long people will obey stupid orders."  
In my opinion, "T H E Y" are the Globalists, not the Corporate state as you wrote.
I'm talking about the richest of the rich. The people that are at the tip top. They can afford to ride out a storm and survive. They are so far removed from sales and coupons that they don't see, know or care about the little people. If a city burns, it isn't their mansion going up in flames.
They fund and encourage disruption, infighting and riots. They want a distracted and divided nation. As disgusting and horrible as it sounds, this benefits them. They want people to get so sick of the destruction that we will do anything to stop it, even if it means looking entirely to the Government to solve it. Boom, here comes total Government control. Socialism, oppression mediocrity. The Globalists want to not only retain power, they want to squash anyone else that puts their interests at risk. Why else would we see numerous liberal District attorneys go soft on violent crime but then go harsh on people that want to run their business without interference? Why would they want convicts to vote, open borders and medicare for all? They want chaos. It is a standard routine...Create a problem then swoop in pretending that you have the cure for it. These people sell the disease and the cure. That doesn't bother you?
Globalists hate an America First mentality. They don't want us to make stuff here, it doesn't enrich them. Products made in China/India/VietNam allow for a much greater profit margin.
Globalists can afford the best of everything. You think any of them were actually worried about contracting Covid 19? Can you say that it doesn't seem curious that this disease played out in an election year where the incumbent is pissing all over their master plan?
As I have stated before, it is quite likely that the Wife and I had this thing in February. I have not been tested since my heath care provider quit administering the tests due to an excessive amount of incorrect results. My point is that I likely have been affected by this along with one member of the Wife's family. Everyone came though just fine because we are all healthy.
It is sad that many have died. The numbers we were told were not accurate though. The Gateway Pundit may be biased but that does not mean that they are wrong.
To those that spout the mantra that If it saves one life, it was all worth it, Think about how angry you were after 9-11-2001. The Department of HomeLand Security was formed and the Patriot Act was passed. Many people spoke out that it was government over-reach. Pro-GOP people sometimes said the same thing, if it saves one life, it is worth it and people argued passionately against the notion then.

Mike DC

QuoteIn my opinion, "T H E Y" are the Globalists, not the Corporate state as you wrote.
I'm talking about the richest of the rich. The people that are at the tip top. They can afford to ride out a storm and survive. They are so far removed from sales and coupons that they don't see, know or care about the little people. If a city burns, it isn't their mansion going up in flames.
They fund and encourage disruption, infighting and riots. They want a distracted and divided nation. As disgusting and horrible as it sounds, this benefits them. They want people to get so sick of the destruction that we will do anything to stop it, even if it means looking entirely to the Government to solve it.

Boom, here comes total Government control. Socialism, oppression mediocrity. The Globalists want to not only retain power, they want to squash anyone else that puts their interests at risk. Why else would we see numerous liberal District attorneys go soft on violent crime but then go harsh on people that want to run their business without interference? Why would they want convicts to vote, open borders and medicare for all? They want chaos. It is a standard routine...Create a problem then swoop in pretending that you have the cure for it. These people sell the disease and the cure. That doesn't bother you?


IMO when a zillion people make a zillion little decisions/actions, it can add up to feel like a conscious intentional plan.  It's human nature operating on a large scale.  That's normally how the world works.  Govt overreach happens because that's the direction that govts normally grow on their own.  It doesn't take a sinister plan to cause this, it takes a good plan to avoid it.  

US violent crime is low these days, that's just raw facts.  The last few decades have been the least-violent era in American history.  US incarceration rates are idiotic because of the drug war.

Convicts should be voting (once they are released).  It's not an outrage that they might get the right to vote, it's an outrage that they didn't have it.  Do they still have to obey laws?  Do they still have to pay taxes?  They are citizens.  They did their time in the penalty box and now they're back in the game.  We (supposedly) want them to rejoin society and contribute.  FFS, the justice system is basically rigged to give out felonies to poor people these days like candy.  It's a backdoor way of making them second-class citizens for life.  It's taxation without representation.  It's not in keeping with American principles.  

As for the borders, that's a bunch of sold-out politicians acting like what they are.  Zillions of little decisions add up to a whole.  

As for politicians and small businesses, that's more of the same.  They only tax & regulate the shit out of businesses too small to buy politicians.  Same reason why poor people get busted for drugs more than rich people despite similar rates of drug use.  Same reason why the IRS busts poorer tax cheats more than richer ones.          

The only people who want Medicare-4-all are the public.  (I think support has climbed above 50% even among red voters now, never mind blue voters.)  Neither party wants it.  The Dems pretend to want it like the GOP pretends to want the borders under control.    


QuoteGlobalists hate an America First mentality. They don't want us to make stuff here, it doesn't enrich them. Products made in China/India/VietNam allow for a much greater profit margin.
Globalists can afford the best of everything. You think any of them were actually worried about contracting Covid 19? Can you say that it doesn't seem curious that this disease played out in an election year where the incumbent is pissing all over their master plan?

That's just a standard thing for free market capitalism.  Outsource stuff to cheaper labor & less regulated areas and reap more profits. US cities got the jobs 100+ years ago because they were being outsourced from Europe.  Small town America got the jobs 75 years ago because they were being outsourced from the US inner cities.  

Today China & India have the jobs.  But they aren't even growing like they were a few decades ago, and their middle classes have boomed.  Today the corporate state is starting to look for greener (cheaper) pastures in Africa and the middle east.  That process continues.    


QuoteAs I have stated before, it is quite likely that the Wife and I had this thing in February. I have not been tested since my heath care provider quit administering the tests due to an excessive amount of incorrect results. My point is that I likely have been affected by this along with one member of the Wife's family. Everyone came though just fine because we are all healthy.  It is sad that many have died. The numbers we were told were not accurate though. The Gateway Pundit may be biased but that does not mean that they are wrong.

Let's hope this virus doesn't leave long-term damage.  It's another one of those issues where there are wildly differing reactions from one person to the next.  Some reports have found heart damage even among people who recovered from it pretty easily.  We really don't know.  


QuoteTo those that spout the mantra that If it saves one life, it was all worth it, Think about how angry you were after 9-11-2001. The Department of HomeLand Security was formed and the Patriot Act was passed. Many people spoke out that it was government over-reach. Pro-GOP people sometimes said the same thing, if it saves one life, it is worth it and people argued passionately against the notion then.

No argument there.  


ACUDANUT

My neighbors had it. They all made it out okay.  :cheers:

greycharger


MoparMike68


XH29N0G

Where on earth do you get this stuff.  It is loony toons crazy. And why is this in the thread on COVID.  Are you trying to make things political????  It certainly seems that way. 
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Mike DC


I'm not gonna mess with that issue.  

Partly because my own opinions don't fit nicely enough into either side. 


MoparMike68

Quote from: XH29N0G on September 05, 2020, 08:38:22 PM
Where on earth do you get this stuff.  It is loony toons crazy. And why is this in the thread on COVID.  Are you trying to make things political????  It certainly seems that way.  
No Discussion of politics,  Just current events of the state of the nation as a result of COVID, a simple google search will yield  many sources. Time magazine, yahoo, USA Today to name a few.

XH29N0G

I disagree.  The wording in the image you posted is highly charged politically.  Why did you say it had no politics involved.  It had the president and has phrases and words and is written by a Breitbart political correspondent. 

I think you are just trolling and also hoping to spread misinformation.  Please do not do this on this site.  We do well discussing cars and sticking to that.  (Even the picture you posted on the other site about Charger pictures has reference to highly charged issues and then an 'innocent' me label.  It is all the same stuff.  Meant to make people react rather than posting pictures or sticking to the issues with a member's experience with COVID.
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

MoparMike68

I disagree with your False  accusations none of which are true but it seems like your the one trolling me lately
and are more then willing to jump right in with political debate to defend what you believe in and what you disagree with
you try your hardest to shut it down assuming and putting words in my mouth rather then state your case like everyone else does.
I don't spread misinformation, I don't just make things up almost all threads go off topic then pick back up. Members state their opinions regularly so there's no need to target me like I'm any different. We can agree to disagree that's what makes America great!  :2thumbs:

XH29N0G

You are correct that I have jumped right in.  I would call it a direct response. Some might say, it is telling it like it is. 

The Russians are good enough to hack a hair dresser, but we would only know if they wanted us to know. I know that is a stupid one, but it includes an unflattering picture of smart politician and is designed to generate a visceral reaction.  It is political and was intended to deflect.

My last post was to ask you to please not do this on this site.  I am not Troy and an admin here, but I have been a member for a while.  I think we have something good with the cars and we can keep it good by not working to drive it off topic in ways that elicit reactions and especially those that are political in nature or could be charged. Others do their best to police themselves.  I am asking the same from you.  I will do my best, too.   :2thumbs:
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....