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Silver Daytona XX29L9B386544 - A4 -C6R- four speed

Started by tan top, September 21, 2020, 03:46:48 AM

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tan top

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

tan top

Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html


held1823

a shame he doesn't share his mom and dad's passion for the cars
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

odcics2

Quote from: held1823 on September 21, 2020, 12:18:53 PM
a shame he doesn't share his mom and dad's passion for the cars

No surprise.

I didn't care for what my parents liked!!   
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

WINGIN IT

Power drum brakes or power disc?
I thought PDB looking at BS, but is that master cylinder correct?

tan top

Quote from: WINGIN IT on September 21, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
Power drum brakes or power disc?
I thought PDB looking at BS, but is that master cylinder correct?

As far as i know ! looks correct to me

B31 = 11 drums
B51 = power booster ( midland ross )   drum brake booster  ( except hemi )  j codes had a bendix booster.

if power discs  would read
B41 =  disc brakes
B51 =  power brake booster ( bendix)  all engines

i await to be corrected  :cheers:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

held1823

Quote from: tan top on September 21, 2020, 01:49:29 PM
Quote from: WINGIN IT on September 21, 2020, 01:15:06 PM
Power drum brakes or power disc?
I thought PDB looking at BS, but is that master cylinder correct?

As far as i know ! looks correct to me

B31 = 11 drums
B51 = power booster ( midland ross )   drum brake booster  ( except hemi )  j codes had a bendix booster.

if power discs  would read
B41 =  disc brakes
B51 =  power brake booster ( bendix)  all engines

i await to be corrected  :cheers:


it matches the power drum codes on my car, so they can try and correct us both

i will need the correct booster to put back on mine eventually
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

WINGIN IT

Ok cool, wasn't sure , wanted to get clarification.

gtx6970

Im not sure the asking price is going to happen,,,or could it ?

Ive been up close and personal with the very car several times over the years,Bob actually tried to trade me for my 69 GTX conv one time If I threw in boot money. I never persuade that idea to really find out what he was thinking said boot money was going to be.  :slap:


I personally dont think the car is 100% dead nuts correct . But its close .

So, anyone dare take a stab on how much its worth in todays market ??????
I know for a fact Sharon turned down in the mid 300K range for it at least twice. But thats been some time and have my doubts it would pull that today, BUT then again Ive been wrong before


69_500

Quote from: gtx6970 on September 21, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
Im not sure the asking price is going to happen,,,or could it ?

Ive been up close and personal with the very car several times over the years,Bob actually tried to trade me for my 69 GTX conv one time If I threw in boot money. I never persuade that idea to really find out what he was thinking said boot money was going to be.  :slap:


I personally dont think the car is 100% dead nuts correct . But its close .

So, anyone dare take a stab on how much its worth in todays market ??????
I know for a fact Sharon turned down in the mid 300K range for it at least twice. But thats been some time and have my doubts it would pull that today, BUT then again Ive been wrong before




Personal opinion is that this car is a $245-260 car in todays market. No way it is close in value to the car Geno had, or the one MoparJohn is selling. To put in perspective those cars can both be purchased for $290k and $350k.

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

hemi-hampton

If That Restoration was $100k in 1996, almost 25 years ago, what would that same Resto cost you nowadays? :scratchchin: :shruggy:

Birdflu

Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: gtx6970 on September 21, 2020, 04:45:07 PM
Im not sure the asking price is going to happen,,,or could it ?

Ive been up close and personal with the very car several times over the years,Bob actually tried to trade me for my 69 GTX conv one time If I threw in boot money. I never persuade that idea to really find out what he was thinking said boot money was going to be.  :slap:


I personally dont think the car is 100% dead nuts correct . But its close .

So, anyone dare take a stab on how much its worth in todays market ??????
I know for a fact Sharon turned down in the mid 300K range for it at least twice. But thats been some time and have my doubts it would pull that today, BUT then again Ive been wrong before




Personal opinion is that this car is a $245-260 car in todays market. No way it is close in value to the car Geno had, or the one MoparJohn is selling. To put in perspective those cars can both be purchased for $290k and $350k.

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

Not taking in account differences in restoration quality, history of sales have proven that 4 speed cars will often go for 15-25% more than it's automatic equivalent.

Beep Beep Dave

Its out of my league but it sure is a good looking car.

Dave
'69-1/2 SIXPACK/SIXBBL REGISTRY On-Line Registry for the Lift Off Hood cars!!!
Maple Leaf Mopars your Canadian Mopar site.

1970 Charger R/T


Q5XX29

Yeah, that color combo, with the 4-speed, is sure appealing !!
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Aero426

Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

One look tells you that.    Killer color combo.   But a price starting with a 3?   Don't think so.

Send it to Mecum in Kissimmee next February.

hemi-hampton

Quote from: Aero426 on September 25, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

One look tells you that.    Killer color combo.   But a price starting with a 3?   Don't think so.

Send it to Mecum in Kissimmee next February.

Can someone point out all the flaws with this car if not of the highest caliber Restoration :scratchchin:

70 sublime

Quote from: hemi-hampton on September 26, 2020, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Aero426 on September 25, 2020, 08:41:31 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on September 21, 2020, 07:11:15 PM

Its not even close to the same caliber of restoration.

One look tells you that.    Killer color combo.   But a price starting with a 3?   Don't think so.

Send it to Mecum in Kissimmee next February.

Can someone point out all the flaws with this car if not of the highest caliber Restoration :scratchchin:

I was wondering the same thing

From that under the car picture from the back the gas tank has been painted and under side of the car is not painted body colour ?
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

DownZero

Either the tank is empty or the fuel gauge doesn't work.

charger500440

Looks like a nice car, but is that a spray foam gasket between the upper radiator and the upper tie bar? I don't believe I've ever seen anything like that before...
1969 SE  383 Automatic
1969 500 440 Automatic

Birdflu

Definitely looks like a piece of foam stuffed in there to prevent under hood air from coming around the corner vs outside air coming through the nose... :shruggy:

hemigeno

The foam was used on Daytonas, to ensure air from the nosecone went through the radiator rather than having a "path of least resistance" around it. 

There was a corresponding foam strip used at the bottom of the radiator-to-yoke gap as well.  From the original examples I've seen, a double-stack of foam strip was - at lest supposed to be - used on 3.54 / 4-speed cars like the Malcom's A4 car, which came equipped with the 055 2-core radiator.  Although the top tanks have the same overall dimensions, the 055's bottom radiator tank was skinnier than the 054 3-core (with the 055 having a larger gap on the radiator core side), so a single wythe of foam wasn't deep enough to span the gap and seal off the airflow. 

I've not personally seen a yellow(ish) foam strip on an original/unrestored car, all I've observed myself was a black/charcoal colored (IIRC it was closed-cell?) foam strip.  But... I didn't see this car before it was restored in '96.  Maybe the restoration shop has documentation to back up what they used?   :shruggy:



odcics2

I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

A383Wing


gtx6970

Bob has always had this car ( all his cars actually ) priced at the max. and as far as I know.
I know for a fact they have sold some  cars but dont know for 100% certainty if any of the wing cars have sold or not

This particular car is nice, not dead nuts OE perfect . But its a damn nice car. The color combo and 4 spd  is a major driving force for the price im sure.

I dont think it can compare to Genos old car quality wise, but visual  wise it trumps it hands down.

What it will actually take to own it , I have no idea . But me thinks it can be bought for well under the asking $$$$

held1823

it might trump the orange/black combo for looks, but there is also a equally perfect blue/white one for sale for far less money
Ernie Helderbrand
XX29L9B409053

odcics2

Question: Why does that silver color have a greenish hue?

I've seen that color on a 69 Road Runner in person and though they mixed the paint wrong.
I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

Aero426

Quote from: odcics2 on September 29, 2020, 06:57:44 AM
Question: Why does that silver color have a greenish hue?

I've seen that color on a 69 Road Runner in person and though they mixed the paint wrong.

I think it has some green in the tints that make up the color.    I've always seen some green in that color.

Golden-Arm

Quote from: odcics2 on September 29, 2020, 06:57:44 AM
Question: Why does that silver color have a greenish hue?

it's simple. it's tarnish.  :smilielol:

odcics2

I've never owned anything but a MoPar. Can you say that?

69_500

In a factory A4 mix there is a hint of green in the silver.

hemi-hampton

Since I mix Paint Daily & have access to any Paint Code I figured I'd look it up to see what's in it :scratchchin: Here's the Formula in both Diamont Base Coat & Single Stage Urethane. Notice both Formulas has a tint called Yellow-Green. Which I'm sure gives it that Greenish tint/look to it. LEON.