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74 Charger SE 318 barn Find

Started by tmorford, October 14, 2020, 04:37:52 AM

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tmorford

I think you guys have a lot more confidence in my abilities then I do... and I appreciate that!

XH29N0G

Looks like it will be fun.  A few years ago, I was lucky enough to hear a friend's kid saying: "Dad, its about the journey.  It not about what it looks like now."  We were on our way to look at a car. My friend asked me to join as another set of eyes, and I suspect, a voice of reason..... 

I expect your project to be a really enjoyable journey and look forward to hearing about the progress, questions, hiccups (if there ever are any), and the wins. 

Please keep up posted. :cheers:
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

Nacho-RT74

prepair yourself to suffer with interior plastic panels LOL ( Don't ask how I know it LOL )
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

tmorford

Well today is the day I run up to get it, wish me luck haha I think I am going to need it!

XH29N0G

Quote from: tmorford on October 18, 2020, 07:50:51 AM
Well today is the day I run up to get it, wish me luck haha I think I am going to need it!

JUST REMEMBER "it is about the journey." 

In one way or another we all can empathize   :rofl:

and will live it vicariously.   :2thumbs:
Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

tmorford

Thanks guys... picked it up today.

The bad: All the rubber under the car needs replacing but I already knew that and planned for that.

The ugly: Interior is trashed the drivers seat is not original ducktape on the doors, dash cracked, carpet is trashed, center console is trashed everything is trashed. The vinal top is also trashed, holes and looks like someone just put putty for the top no vinal left.

The good: Runs awesome, not sounds in the motor at all, no smoke, shifts great. Paperwork states transmission rebuilt 2017. AC works,  new alternator, bakes work great, drives like a dream.

I am going to replace the door cards, carpet sooner then later.

Not bad all in all.

Tim

RallyeMike

That car looks like a great starting platform.... lack of rust, slapstick, and rallye gauges.... and runs good too? Good find.
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XH29N0G

Who in their right mind would say

"The science should not stand in the way of this."? 

Science is just observation and hypothesis.  Policy stands in the way.........

Or maybe it protects us. 

I suppose it depends on the specific case.....

CFMopar

1971 Charger SE 440 automatic
2014 Ram EcoDiesel Laramie
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCkKIkpXr-77fWg7JkeoV_g

tmorford

Hey guys I have disregarded all your advice sorry... I have the car a part and the paint ordered, I have the new interior so when the car is done with paint it's going to going in. Now I need some help with the Engine it has the original 318 in it and its numbers matching so I am going to keep it, it has the original 2b carb in it, I want some more HP out of it what should I do? I found a machine shop 7 miles from my house and they can clean it up and bore it out if needed, what cam should I use pistons, rods, heads, intake, EFI or Carb?

I know I should not have taken it all a part but it gets cold and boring in upstate NY in winter haha!

Thanks!
Tim

Nacho-RT74

sorry, this link doesn't work for me being in Spain ( some web restrictions ), but it has been a reference for many ppl with 318s and I could open it when I was in Vzla

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0409-318-engine-build/

I hope will still work. Basically said how to build a 400 HP 318 with parts out of the box
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

tmorford

Yeah I have seen that article its bolt-on stuff but I am having issues finding some of the parts and I don't really need 400hp, I am looking for more 320 or so to start, I am thinking of starting with this>

https://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/2176PK/10002/-1

then do a full bottom end rebuild in a few years. 

AKcharger


tmorford

It's actually going well, I have sourced original front seats and a slap shift. The car seems to have been brown originally and was painted that ugly green. It also looks like it was side-swiped at one time they replaced the passenger side door and the rear quarter panel is banged up so I am fixing them and I should be ready for paint! I am still looking for 360 heads I can bolt on once that is done I just need to work on the dash and the center console and I am done!  I will send up pictures soon.

AKcharger


tmorford

So I have a line on a cheap 440 out of an RV 68k should I swap or stick with the 318?

ralley72

1973 Roadrunner 400 mag. 4 sp

Nacho-RT74

IMHO, get the engine for a future but keep building the car with the 318 if you want to enjoy the car soon. Proceed with engine "upgrade" later. Swap the engine is not just the engine, but transmission, mounts and match lot of stuff.

Depending on engine year ( and even more coming from an RV )  it could make a huge diff on power, so still being cheap, MAYBE get it correctly powered wouldn't make it cheap anymore.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: tmorford on December 30, 2020, 06:20:46 PM
Yeah I have seen that article its bolt-on stuff but I am having issues finding some of the parts and I don't really need 400hp, I am looking for more 320 or so to start, I am thinking of starting with this>

https://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/2176PK/10002/-1

then do a full bottom end rebuild in a few years. 

I have serious doubts that build from HotRod magazine makes full 400hp anyway. Maybe close, but is an easy job anyway to get more juice.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html