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Considering selling my 68 project

Started by tmaleck, September 08, 2021, 03:15:10 PM

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tmaleck

My 68 Charger has been in the shop for 4 years.  The owner is a nice guy and all, but I'm getting beat down with all the broken promises.  I have 80k invested and I can't get a schedule commitment.  I've been in and around the car /motorcycle business since the 70's so I know how this works.  Anyway, I'm so bummed and burnt out on this project I don't have any desire to continue trying to work with this guy.  We all know what a nightmare changing shops mid project is, parts go missing, bills for extra labor magically show up, and the new shop may or may not deem previous work acceptable.  All I wanted was to enjoy a car I owned as a kid and didn't appreciate and it's just not fun anymore.  If I did sell it, is 50 to 60 cents on the dollar a reasonable expectation?  I will say the work done so far does meet my quality standards, it's not a hack job.
The thought is I could put that money towards my Daytona clone project.
Looking forward to your thoughts.

1970Moparmann

Unfortunately I am hearing stories like this more and more.   

I am really surprised that you have $80k into this already.    I would hope that with your statement, everything has been bought and just awaiting for assembly?   

The bigger question - is this a RT 4 speed or a 318 auto?    Provide more detail and you will get some realistic answers.    It is a great market right now...
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

tmaleck

Good point.  It's a factory 383 2bbl Auto with A/C car.  Now has 440 forged crank fully built goodies too numerous to list.  Sidewinder heads,Edlebrock Proflow 4 XT, CFV serpentine kit, Willwood all four corners, complete QA1 front suspension and K frame, the list goes on.  I do have most every part new to put back on it.  If there ends up being serious interest, I can post a link to tons of photos and a spreadsheet of all parts and labor to date.
I tried to add a couple engine photos, but I can't get it to work
Tim

70 sublime

next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

John Milner

I think I would be tempted to get it and put it back together myself if I were in your position.  It doesn't look like it would take just a ton of work to make it into a nice driver.  If you've had the car since you were a kid, I would be very hesitant to make any decisions on selling it based on a body shop not doing what they are supposed to do.  Just get it, bring it home and wait a while.  You'll be glad you did someday. 

tmaleck

Sadly, my first one is long gone.  Also, car is further along than that picture.  Drivetrain is in, underbody is restored and undercoated,  interior is done instrument cluster restored, etc.  I have terrible arthritis in my hands and can no longer work on it myself (wish I could).  
I'm in Austin, TX.  This site is horrible for adding pictures, so here is a link to some.
https://app.box.com/s/v5vypy0opiaqdaocmz1nnlb9otes0id1

70 sublime

Sucks getting old  ( guess it beats the alternative )

What colour is the green you used on the car ?

next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

Mopar Nut

Looks good.
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tmaleck

It's House of Kolor organic green candy over a gold base coat.  Thanks for the nice words.

Lennard

Quote from: tmaleck on September 09, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
Sadly, my first one is long gone.  Also, car is further along than that picture.  Drivetrain is in, underbody is restored and undercoated,  interior is done instrument cluster restored, etc.  I have terrible arthritis in my hands and can no longer work on it myself (wish I could).  
I'm in Austin, TX.  

You're close to having a completely restored 1968 Charger, the most wanted muscle car.

Maybe try to find a forum member that lives in your area that would like to help you finish it?

70 sublime

Quote from: Lennard on September 09, 2021, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: tmaleck on September 09, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
Sadly, my first one is long gone.  Also, car is further along than that picture.  Drivetrain is in, underbody is restored and undercoated,  interior is done instrument cluster restored, etc.  I have terrible arthritis in my hands and can no longer work on it myself (wish I could).  
I'm in Austin, TX.  

You're close to having a completely restored 1968 Charger, the most wanted muscle car.

Maybe try to find a forum member that lives in your area that would like to help you finish it?

I was thinking the same thing if there was anyone close that could lend a hand
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green

tmaleck

Quote from: 70 sublime on September 09, 2021, 08:11:21 PM
Quote from: Lennard on September 09, 2021, 05:42:22 PM
Quote from: tmaleck on September 09, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
Sadly, my first one is long gone.  Also, car is further along than that picture.  Drivetrain is in, underbody is restored and undercoated,  interior is done instrument cluster restored, etc.  I have terrible arthritis in my hands and can no longer work on it myself (wish I could).  
I'm in Austin, TX.  

You're close to having a completely restored 1968 Charger, the most wanted muscle car.

Maybe try to find a forum member that lives in your area that would like to help you finish it?

I was thinking the same thing if there was anyone close that could lend a hand
I would be ecstatic if that were possible.  I'd help where possible, and gladly cover their time and expenses.

TexasStroker

What all exactly do you need to finish the car?
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tmaleck

Quote from: TexasStroker on September 10, 2021, 04:20:00 PM
What all exactly do you need to finish the car?
Engine and drivetrain and suspension are in, interior is done, but not Installed.  American muscle car wiring harness partially installed.   I think all glass and weather strip, seals and fuzzies not installed.  I have Nu relic power window kits for all four windows.  Vintage air partially installed.  No exterior trim installed.   I rebuilt the grill and header panel, not installed.   Edelbrock proflow 4 XT not wired, have lokar throttle and kickdown kits.
The worst is the paint.  It reacted with the primer in spots and has to be redone.  This is not required, but Its the reason the shop stalled out, since they are on the hook for time and materials to repaint.   This is secondary to me at this point, but it must be repainted at some point.
I think a solid 40 to 50 hours gets it on the road with the paint not included.

TexasStroker

If I was down that way I could definitely help out.  Sad to see they botched the paint job.  I'd want to be driving it as well.  Will they not complete the remaining work and then just to cover their mistake, or reimburse you for a paint job?  Is Dave still down in the Houston area?  I think he was 68RRFlyer or something similar...he was on here posting restos a few years ago.
Founder, Amarillo Area Mopars
www.amarilloareamopars.com
Founder, Lone Star Mopars
www.lonestarmopars.com
Will set-up a regional Charger meet
Contact me for info!

1970Moparmann

Contact Troy!   He is in Houston and can put you on the list.   Enjoy your car, you made it this far with it!

hemi68charger is Troys user name.
My name is Mike and I'm a Moparholic!

tmaleck

Quote from: 1970Moparmann on September 13, 2021, 07:00:56 AM
Contact Troy!   He is in Houston and can put you on the list.   Enjoy your car, you made it this far with it!

hemi68charger is Troys user name.
Thanks for the info, I'll look into it.


AKcharger


tmaleck

80 includes the car, parts and labor so far.  The engine alone is 14k.  Edelbrock, ARP, CFV, Sidewinder, Comp Cams, TTI, etc.  It is easy to do.  This is supposed to be the car I could never afford as a kid.  I've gotten a couple of good emails, hopefully this will all work out.

VegasCharger

What's to say you wouldn't get burned out on a "Daytona" project IF you were to unload this '68?

Stay the coarse IMO.

DeltaV

Another vote for stay the course.

Endeavor to persevere.
Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning. - Erwin Rommel

tmaleck

Update:  Car is coming home next week, we're making room now.  Still need to negotiate with the shop, he wants 18k just to release it.  Then we still need to inventory the parts and find what's missing.  It's a pain, but it's some sort of progress.  I'll worry about what's next once it's home.  Thanks for the support guys.

AKcharger


RallyeMike

Quotehe wants 18k just to release it.

So you'd end up with $98k into a car that's not only incomplete, but also needs to be repainted?

You are being robbed, but I agree .... get your car out of that black hole.

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