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« on: October 30, 2021, 05:54:00 AM » |
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 Hello everyone! I'm new to the scene! Question: I plan on shooting my bare metal 67 charger in epoxy primer. If it sits in the garage through a michigan winter will it rust by next spring? Thanks in advance!
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AKcharger
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2021, 07:26:38 AM » |
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"Should" be. snow really isn't a big cataylist for corrosion, it's dirt and liquid water
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Scooter67
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2021, 09:42:30 AM » |
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2021, 12:25:44 PM » |
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LINK TO MY STORY http://www.onallcylinders.com/2015/11/16/ride-shares-charlie-keel-battles-cancer-ms-to-build-brilliant-1968-dodge-charger/ 68 Charger 512 cid,9.7to1,Hilborn EFI,Home ported 440 source heads,small hyd roller cam,COLD A/C ,,a518 trans,Dana 60 ,4.10 gear,10.93 et,4100lbs on street tires full exhaust daily driver  Charger55 by Charlie Keel, on Flickr |
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2021, 02:52:20 PM » |
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My charger has been in the garage with Epoxy primer for at least 6 years. And I am in michigan
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Scooter67
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2021, 04:15:40 PM » |
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Fair enough! All the research I've done has said that epoxy is the way to go if the topcoat is going to be put off for awhile. But of course I've also heard non epoxy primer attracts moisture so in any case you have to be careful!  |
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hemi-hampton
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2021, 08:04:23 PM » |
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$700 Is a lot for a Gallon of Primer. I don't know many People that want to spend that on Primer. LEON. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2021, 06:21:49 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2021, 06:49:31 AM » |
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Grab a roller and get it done! https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-basic-optiflow-roll-on-epoxy-primer-kit.html
Says out of stock till Dec 30 |
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current project 69 Charger Daytona clone F6 green
next project 70 Charger FJ5 green
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2021, 02:44:13 PM » |
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hemi-hampton
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2021, 10:08:26 PM » |
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I always self etch wash prime my Bare Metal Restoration Cars before Epoxy Priming. Works for me   LEON. |
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Scooter67
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2021, 10:23:09 AM » |
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self etch wash prime? what exactly is that ?
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2021, 03:04:59 AM » |
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I've done a little searching and the opinion of most is to Not shoot an epoxy primer over self etching primer.
Anyone have any comments on this?
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2021, 04:52:42 PM » |
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Whatever product you use, look at the TDS............................
For expoy, I usually don't use etch, unless its recommended.
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hemi-hampton
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2021, 05:56:53 PM » |
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I've done a little searching and the opinion of most is to Not shoot an epoxy primer over self etching primer.
Anyone have any comments on this?
That's because epoxy primers are not recommended over most Self Etching Wash Primers but not All. Some you can & some you can't, You just gotta know which ones you can & which ones you cant & most painters don't know you can. I got the paint manufactures Technical Data Sheets that say which ones you can & can't. I've been Painting for almost 40 Years with many different shops & Painters & noticed most Painters don't even read the TDS 's. Been using my method for 30 Years with no Problems. Lot of Painters will also say don't waste your time Sealing a car before you Paint also. You got the right way & then you got the Cheap Low Budget Earl Scheib way. All you gotta do is pick which way you wanta go. LEON. |
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2021, 01:35:45 PM » |
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Thank you boys...All advice and knowledge is appreciated 
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Canadian1968
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2021, 06:41:42 PM » |
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I've done a little searching and the opinion of most is to Not shoot an epoxy primer over self etching primer.
Anyone have any comments on this?
That's because epoxy primers are not recommended over most Self Etching Wash Primers but not All. Some you can & some you can't, You just gotta know which ones you can & which ones you cant & most painters don't know you can. I got the paint manufactures Technical Data Sheets that say which ones you can & can't. I've been Painting for almost 40 Years with many different shops & Painters & noticed most Painters don't even read the TDS 's. Been using my method for 30 Years with no Problems. Lot of Painters will also say don't waste your time Sealing a car before you Paint also. You got the right way & then you got the Cheap Low Budget Earl Scheib way. All you gotta do is pick which way you wanta go. LEON.  |
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hemi-hampton
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2021, 07:40:56 PM » |
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I've done a little searching and the opinion of most is to Not shoot an epoxy primer over self etching primer.
Anyone have any comments on this?
That's because epoxy primers are not recommended over most Self Etching Wash Primers but not All. Some you can & some you can't, You just gotta know which ones you can & which ones you cant & most painters don't know you can. I got the paint manufactures Technical Data Sheets that say which ones you can & can't. I've been Painting for almost 40 Years with many different shops & Painters & noticed most Painters don't even read the TDS 's. Been using my method for 30 Years with no Problems. Lot of Painters will also say don't waste your time Sealing a car before you Paint also. You got the right way & then you got the Cheap Low Budget Earl Scheib way. All you gotta do is pick which way you wanta go. LEON. |
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hemi-hampton
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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2021, 09:26:42 PM » |
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There's self etching Primer, then Wash Primer & then theres self etching wash primer. All 3 different. PPG'S Data sheets does not recommend epoxy primer over there self etching primer #DPX171 & the data sheets does not recommend epoxy prime over there wash primer #DPX170. BUT, PPG's data sheet does recommend epoxy prime ( I use there DP epoxy Primer) over there self etch was primer # DX1791. Which is what I use. I guess nobody has read the data sheet on this one? BUT, I haven't used this stuff for many Years & not sure if they still make it. Every Year all Paint Manufacturers seem to come out with new stuff. Now they got DTM Primer which was good for Industrial use many years ago but now used on Cars. LEON.
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